Republican Riot Squad

[etech]

Chess9
"Meanwhile let the police in Broward and Palm Beach County bring out the fire hoses, dogs, and batons and give the Republicans a taste of Selma and Birmingham. "

Selma, wasn't it the Democratic Gov. George Wallace that authorized the fire hoses, dogs and batons. Yes Chess9, I can really see why you support the Democrats.

 

[Mill]

<< Date Posted: Nov/25/2000 4:46 PM

Chess9
&quot;Meanwhile let the police in Broward and Palm Beach County bring out the fire hoses, dogs, and batons and give the Republicans a taste of Selma and Birmingham. &quot;

Selma, wasn't it the Democratic Gov. George Wallace that authorized the fire hoses, dogs and batons. Yes Chess9, I can really see why you support the Democrats. >>



Not really. The city leaders in Bham and the Chief of Police used the hoses and dogs. George Wallace was mainly racist for political gain. He isn't the bad man you people think. He did some very wrong things, but he realized it and apologized. I am not taking up for him. He was the basic root of racial instability in the cities. He was a democrat but was actually conservative. Go figure. His son is a Dem. here and has been reelected more than once. The suprise is that he is popular among African Americans. In Alabama, the blacks have always voted dem. The whole state used to be Dem. FDR was a king around here. Everyone thought he saved their ass in the Depression. Later everyone decided they were conservative. The people never make up their mind here. We have a Democrat Governor, a Republican Lt. Governor, and two Republican senators. The governor was elected mainly because he wanted a state lottery. When the lottery came to vote it, the people of Alabama rejected it. The northern parts of Alabama are very conservative and the southern parts are very liberal. The central part is leaning towards conservative. The easiest way to win an election here is to call your opponent liberal. We don't mind moderate dems, but those pesky &quot;liberals&quot; are deadly. All you have to do is run an ad saying your opponent is liberal, doesn't support school prayer, and is funded by special interests.

I am sure that is very confusing to all of you. It only makes sense to me because I live here every day.

Red Dawn- I fail to see why you are now calling Republicans Nazis. Everything with you is either really bad or really good. I thought you were a moderate?

 

[Tiger]

ride525,

I'll say it again.
Some of us get our facts as things happen. I was watching a live MSNBC feed when the so called riot in the hallway happened. There wasn't anyone throwing punches or kicking. Those people weren't called in by the republicans, they were the republican observers who had been kicked out of the counting room on the 18th floor.

The problem with what the canvassers tried to do was that IT WAS AGAINST THE LAW!!

Florida has an open meetings law which appliies to the canvassing boards.
Florida also has a law that says if your going to do a total hand recount you have to do just that, not count a subset of ballots.

 

[ride525]

<< I was watching a live MSNBC feed when the so called riot in the hallway happened. There wasn't anyone throwing punches or kicking. >>



Ok, Ok...I'm sure you saw EVERYTHING.....probably no door banging either....I'm sure the cameras covered all the protesters, and of course all the Democrats charges about the protests are bogus.

First I don't know if this would really be called an open meeting under the open meetings law. I'm not sure this is really a meeting. It is a recount of votes. If they let every Republican in that didn't want to behave in a civilized manner into the counting area there would be bedlam.

And I'll say it again....screaming, disruptive individuals do NOT belong in a place where votes are trying to be counted for the President of the United States.

 

[ride525]

From MSNBC:

<<
?Because someone paid for my hotel room, because someone paid for my plane ticket, I?m a thug?? asked Terry Benham, a Little Rock, Ark., lobbyist. Another sign in the crowd read: ?We are not from Rent-A-Mob.? >>



Ok.

 

[Russ]

<< &quot;Because someone paid for my hotel room, because someone paid for my plane ticket, I?m a thug?? asked Weasel Slimesky, a Washington DC Lawyer brought in by the Gore campaign. >>



The only difference here is that Goresky's &quot;thugs&quot; are wearing $3000 designer suits.

BTW, Broward has now magically &quot;found&quot; a net gain for Albert Jr. of 535 votes. Funny that in PBC where the process is objective, the difference is insignificant.

Russ, NCNE

 

[ElFenix]

this whole hand recount thing is BS anyway... why do you think the dems chose to count democrat counties? certainly not to do the republicans any favors. and then theres that whole absentee ballot... what kind of message does that send to servicemen and women when perhaps the future president's lawyers put together a guide of how their votes shouldn't be counted?!? ridiculous!

 

[Tripleshot]

>>>Funny that in PBC where the process is objective, the difference is insignificant.<<<

Russ,

All day,the news has been stating that Palm Beach County is not broadcasting the results until tommorow. How does that equate to &quot;objective&quot;?

 

[ride525]

Russ, Interesting quote, where did you get yours? I got mine on CNN. You are getting real good at this, taking other folk's quotes, changing a few words, and completly changing the meaning.

Did you forget Bush has a bunch of lawyers? I'll bet some of them have expensive suits too, don't you think?

He may need a even few more lawyers now that he's given up on ONE lawsuit over the 13 counties following the Bush Co-Chair's orders on rejected overseas ballots with no postmarks. Common thought is judge's comments yesterday told his lawyer buddies that they couldn't win this one. So now they are going to try all 13 individually. Divide and conquer, as someone aptly put it.

Oh, and a bunch for the Supreme Court action he's filed. And I'll bet he'll have some hanging around the Florida State Supreme Court for any follow up action there.

 

[Russ]

<< Russ, Interesting quote, where did you get yours? >>



HaHa. If your serious, re-read yours to compare, and perhaps you'll figure it out. The only reason Bush has lawyers involved is because a phalanx of Gore's Goons were flown in the day after the election.

If the argument centers on whether or not Bush has been &quot;out-lawyered&quot;, no question, Goreby wins that hands down.

And, NO county is &quot;broadcasting&quot; results. All the numbers come from the same place from whence they always have: The Clinton News Network estimates. It wouldn't surpise me a bit, though, if, now that the number needed is known, PBC suddenly materializes the votes Goresky needs.

Russ, NCNE

 

[ride525]

Impressive.....

This is the second time in two days you've taking someone's quote, changed a few words....and come out with a completely different meaning.

You are getting better and better....

 

[PCAddict]

Even though the liberal Democrats will whine about the source, because it's not from a news organization which is biased in their favor, I'll post this anyhow. It's truly fascinating reading.

Broward County Transcript

If this isn't a flagrant disregard for the law, I don't know what is.

Notice that it's Broward where all of these &quot;miraculously found&quot; votes for Gore keep appearing.

 

[Russ]

PCAddict,

Oh, that's some good stuff! And, the liberals still argue the process is objective:



<< COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: but I'm going to say it is a Gore vote, based on the rest of the ballot. >>



They can yell until their pink in the face about the source, but those are direct quotes from the transcription service, including citations.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Futuramatic]

That Broward county transcript as freaking hilarious! Even votes for Bush she was calling for Gore!! It makes me wonder if she really looked at the ballot.

 

[Russ]

As much as I hate to bring this thread back ON topic, strange that nobody picked up on this:



<< David Leahy, of the Miami-Dade County canvassing board, said the Republican protesters did not intimidate board members. >>



Russ, NCNE

 

[Futuramatic]

Of course not... like there weren't armed guards in the building in case things got out of hand.

It was out of hand, I'll give ya that, but there is no way that those protesters threatened the count process.

 

[PCAddict]

I was suprised that no one posted that transcript earlier. It is indeed very enlightening and quite entertaining. But, I think you're right. The claims regarding the legitimacy of the recounting process that the Democrats are making are even funnier.

 

[Wellfire]

Anyone who believes the media is liberal is a moron.

 

[Futuramatic]

Counting is over in Broward. Net gain of 583 for Gore.

 

[PCAddict]

Counting is over in Broward. Net gain of 583 for Gore.


More results from that impartial and accurate process. I feel so much better now.

 

[Michael]

With the sheer number of votes being considered in PBC, Gore should pass Bush. If, of course, they finish on time. Wonder why no counts at all from PBC?

Michael

 

[Format C:]

Michael, as of a couple hours ago the unofficial totals from Repub and Dem observers in the room was around 75 advantage Gore. It certainly is odd that they stopped giving them out though. The news report that I saw said that the board had decided that they weren't going to release any more numbers until after they had sent their totals to Secretary Harris. They didn't give a reason. That in itself seems a little odd.

This is going to get interesting because at the present rate there is no way they can complete the count in time according to everyone's estimates. What happens then? An incomplete count would mandate that they would have to certify their earlier returns would it not? I would assume that they can't turn in numbers from a partial count because who's to say that the advantage might turn the other way later in the count, just as it has done several times already there. Gore was up, Bush was up, back to Gore, etc etc. At least one would HOPE that that wouldn't be allowed. I can foresee massive outrage if they do. With this mess though anything is possible. I would wager, judging from past performance, that if/when they don't finish and if Gore has more votes than Bush at the time, then the Gore team will have fits for the Secretary to accept a partial total, and then go totally ballistic when she refuses. We might even be treated to an opportunity to see what a real mob rioting looks like. I'm going to predict now that if Bush is certified the winner somebody is going to have to call in the National Guard. Wanna bet?

 

[PCAddict]

Palm Beach is asking for an extension until 9AM Monday.

 

[Michael]

The law says that a complete manual count has to be done. If the SoS accepts an incomplete manual count (the 1% samples are required by law and I would argue they should stand), then she runs the risk that the barely started Miami-Dade results should be included.

I also find it odd that PBC is not releasing numbers as they go. Since Red Dawn has not yet identified me as one of the paranoid, right wing guys <grin>, I would say that it is a Democrat tactic to make the request for an extension appear more reasonable only for another 500 Gore votes to magically appear.

The request for yet another extension plays right to the SoS arguments that she had to certify to move into the next stage. The counties have consistently been wrong in their estimates as to when they would be done and the election has to stop at a certain point.

PBC should let their original, certified numbers count and then finish the recount so the numbers are available for the contest stage.

Michael

 

[ride525]

Yeah, and don't forget the Florida Supreme Court said 5pm Sunday if the SoS office was open, 9am Monday if not. Interesting that they didn't just specify one or the other, but both.