Republican government shutdown 2025 v2.0

[Brainonska511]

Thanks. How many times can they do it per session? This is an area i honestly don’t know a ton about.

From a bit of reading they did it on the big ugly bill.

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R48444#_Toc192244885

It depends.

But they don't need to use the reconciliation process to pass a new appropriation. The Senate majority can just change the rules and nuke the filibuster.

 

[eelw]

But are Dems blocking the vote or they just don’t even have 50 R votes to pass a CR

 

[soulcougher73]

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R48444#_Toc192244885

It depends.

But they don't need to use the reconciliation process to pass a new appropriation. The Senate majority can just change the rules and nuke the filibuster.

What rules would they change? Legitimately trying to learn.

 

[Brainonska511]

What rules would they change? Legitimately trying to learn.

The Senate could make cloture votes only require a simple majority to end debate. That would nuke the filibuster and then things would only ever need to pass with simple majorities.

 

[Brainonska511]

But are Dems blocking the vote or they just don’t even have 50 R votes to pass a CR

Republicans can't muster the votes to end cloture to them allow for the formal voting on their CR. Thus, the current need for 60 yes votes. Democrats are simply not voting to go along with Republicans bs CR bill for nothing in return.

And Republicans can nuke the cloture rules whenever they want. They hold more than 50 seats, and it only takes a simple majority.

 

[soulcougher73]

The Senate could make cloture votes only require a simple majority to end debate. That would nuke the filibuster and then things would only ever need to pass with simple majorities.

Do they not do this because they are afraid what Dems would do if/when back in power?

 

[Brainonska511]

Do they not do this because they are afraid what Dems would do if/when back in power?

Nah. It's probably two fold: they don't do it because they think they can use the current situation to jam Democrats and force them to join onto something odious, and because they probably don't have the majority they need to pass a bill.

Republicans have no problem changing the rules when it stands in the way of things they want to do.

 

[Indus]

Good vid today regarding the surrendering dem leadership

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Thank you Joe Biden for shutting down the government.

I still miss Thanks Obama

 

[SteveGrabowski]

I wonder how long the government shutdown would last if every American refused to go to work until healthcare got funded.

General strikes are illegal in the US. Because they worked in the past. Land of the free my ass.

 

[HomerJS]

This is exactly why you can’t deal with these people. Cant even answer a basic question because facts would get in the way of his lies so he just tries to deflect

 

[biostud]

Any reason the democrats doesn't demand that all revenues collected from Trumps Tariffs should be controlled by the senate?

 

[K1052]

Really kinda incredible that Rs are so totally devoted to inflicting pointless pain on the electorate that this is the line they draw on government spending.

 

[K1052]

I don't expect Vought to prevail in court but this is pretty corrosive to the bonds of the union especially since the President thinks it's an awesome idea and that he should do a lot more of it.

https://bsky.app/profile/carlquintanilla.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3m2bzm5lhgs23

 

[Pens1566]

I don't expect Vought to prevail in court but this is pretty corrosive to the bonds of the union especially since the President thinks it's an awesome idea and that he should do a lot more of it.

https://bsky.app/profile/carlquintanilla.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3m2bzm5lhgs23

 

[K1052]

Attempt to show that you are a serious person who doesn't want a shutdown challenge impossible. The blast radius on Rs in VA next month could be really something.

https://bsky.app/profile/laurajedeed.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3m2c2s27iwk2x

 

[dlerious]

But are Dems blocking the vote or they just don’t even have 50 R votes to pass a CR

Masto, Fetterman, and King voted for it - again.

 

[pauldun170]

Fyi

Do Democrats want free healthcare for undocumented migrants?

Amid the blame game over the shutdown, Republicans claim Democrats want free healthcare for illegal immigrants - the Democrats call this a lie

www.bbc.com

 

[cytg111]

Fetterman should be in someone's care, the brain damage is obviously too severe for him to act on his own behalf.

 

[K1052]

Political consequences of policy they enact suddenly dawns on stunned White House.

https://bsky.app/profile/carlquintanilla.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3m2bs5wiy6s2f

 

[K1052]

Fetterman should be in someone's care, the brain damage is obviously too severe for him to act on his own behalf.

Probably the only reason he hasn't resigned from a job he clearly hates is that Shapiro would appoint his replacement. They do not like each other. Anyway at this rate zero chance he survives a primary if he runs again, he's going to get savaged.

 

[soulcougher73]

Nah. It's probably two fold: they don't do it because they think they can use the current situation to jam Democrats and force them to join onto something odious, and because they probably don't have the majority they need to pass a bill.

Republicans have no problem changing the rules when it stands in the way of things they want to do.

What bill are you referring to they wouldnt have the majority to pass? I assume you were referring to them getting rid of the filibuster with a majority vote?

Also if republicans have no problems changing the rules, why are they not doing what everyone here seems to imply?

Just trying to learn and be in the know on these things.

 

[Brainonska511]

Probably the only reason he hasn't resigned from a job he clearly hates is that Shapiro would appoint his replacement. They do not like each other. Anyway at this rate zero chance he survives a primary if he runs again, he's going to get savaged.

Angus King should also be in someone's care. Old bat doesn't have the chops to play in the big leagues any more.

 

[Brainonska511]

What bill are you referring to they wouldnt have the majority to pass? I assume you were referring to them getting rid of the filibuster with a majority vote?

Also if republicans have no problems changing the rules, why are they not doing what everyone here seems to imply?

Just trying to learn and be in the know on these things.

Republicans don't have a majority of their caucus onboard to pass anything in the Senate regarding an appropriation to keep the government open. If they did, they wouldn't have to shut down the government and be trying to pressure Democrats on passing a bill.

They want Democratic party help because they need political cover or votes that won't come from their own caucus.

Each house of Congress decides how it will operate and votes on their own rules. Rule changes require simple majorities. The filibuster is merely a rule that has been changed many times over the years, usually when the majority started to find it annoying.

 

[Indus]

Political consequences of policy they enact suddenly dawns on stunned White House.

https://bsky.app/profile/carlquintanilla.bsky.social%2Fpost%2F3m2bs5wiy6s2f

I wouldn't mind Singleplayer Trumpcare to replace ACA..

Question is does Trump wanna leave a positive legacy rather than a dumb one.