Release the Krak... err FISA Memo!

[snarfbot]

It doesn’t mean that at all. It means that al FISA requests were given more scrutiny in recent years.

http://www.newsweek.com/how-get-fisa-warrant-797323



The increased scrutiny actually supports the argument the request would have had to have been proper and with merit. The number of requests were average.

9 out of thousands? and the application in question was rejected at least once. that fact seems to run counter to your position that the request was proper, which seems to be supported by the origin of the steel dossier and the funding behind it and the manipulation of the media used as corroborative evidence to support the fisa application.

its all becoming very clear.

 

[fskimospy]

no, your post is actually whats called a bald assertion though.

I asked you for a citation and you linked an evidence free rant from a right wing website.

Did you not notice that it didn’t cite any evidence to back up its claims? That’s seriously embarrassing.

 

[Jhhnn]

Your source is crazed ranting without any actual evidence.

Did you seriously not notice this? Embarrassing.

It merely confirms his bias & therefore must be gospel. No wonder Conservatives' minds are mush.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

9 out of thousands? and the application in question was rejected at least once. that fact seems to run counter to your position that the request was proper, which seems to be supported by the origin of the steel dossier and the funding behind it and the manipulation of the media used as corroborative evidence to support the fisa application.

its all becoming very clear.

Where is this proof that one was rejected? I provided you with cited information to support the statement. You provided a right wing blog with no citations at all to support the claim. Show us the evidence there was a rejection.

 

[snarfbot]

I asked you for a citation and you linked an evidence free rant from a right wing website.

Did you not notice that it didn’t cite any evidence to back up its claims? That’s seriously embarrassing.

lol more empty words, if you have an actual argument present it. your logical fallacies are not compelling.

 

[zerocool84]

If someone was 100% clean on this then why are they trying to discredit the whole thing? They obviously don't want the investigation to go on any more because they are scared. If they were clean they would have nothing to worry about during the investigation.

 

[Puffnstuff]

lol more empty words, if you have an actual argument present it. your logical fallacies are not compelling.

Ahem....

 

[soundforbjt]

lol more empty words, if you have an actual argument present it. your logical fallacies are not compelling.

The argument is simple, you made a claim with zero evidence to back it up, an opinion piece is not evidence.

 

[umbrella39]

I asked you for a citation and you linked an evidence free rant from a right wing website.

Did you not notice that it didn’t cite any evidence to back up its claims? That’s seriously embarrassing.

I'M not exactly sure why someone even logs into this account of his to post such inane bullshit... They should be embarrassed but they aren't. Just tag another one in...

 

[Jhhnn]

lol more empty words, if you have an actual argument present it. your logical fallacies are not compelling.

Your article makes contentions of fact that are utterly unsubstantiated. It's just that simple. You believe them because you want to do so & make demands that others disprove them. Proof is not required to counter the lack of it.

 

[jman19]

lol more empty words, if you have an actual argument present it. your logical fallacies are not compelling.

You quoted an article lacking any evidence of its assertions, yet take those assertions as fact..

 

[fskimospy]

lol more empty words, if you have an actual argument present it. your logical fallacies are not compelling.

I already presented my actual argument. It is that your statement is not based in fact. So far I’ve been proven correct.

So try again, provide evidence to back up your claim or admit you can’t.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I'M not exactly sure why someone even logs into this account of his to post such inane bullshit... They should be embarrassed but they aren't. Just tag another one in...

You'll notice that I've stopped responding to his inane blather using spoken language and have instead resorted to using easy to understand pictures.

 

[interchange]

Politifact needs a new category: "salacious and unverified". Really, that's being generous here, but it is fun.

 

[Jaskalas]

Where did you get the idea that the dossier is Russian propaganda?

WaPo, Oct 31, 2017: Clinton’s link to Putin is the underreported ‘dossier’ bombshell

 

[HomerJS]

Where is all the gloom and doom predicted by the Democrats? I thought this memo spelled the end and was going to out all of these sources and methods.

It also wasn't as big a deal as the Republicans made out. Though it does raise some questions about McCabe saying that no FISA would have been sought without the dossier and the "circular reporting" with Steele feeding Yahoo News and that news story used to back up the dossier.

Looking forward to the Democrats Memo.

Here some intel discovered by the Russians because of the memo.

We now know when Carter Paige was be surveiled. Anyone who talked to him during those times now knows it is likely they were surveiled as well.

Don't you think that is some intel that should have remained secret?

 

[HomerJS]

WaPo, Oct 31, 2017: Clinton’s link to Putin is the underreported ‘dossier’ bombshell

Can we get off this misleading bullshit. Data for the dossier was paid for by...........

both Republicans and Democrats

How many times do we have to beat that through your head??

 

[snarfbot]

WaPo, Oct 31, 2017: Clinton’s link to Putin is the underreported ‘dossier’ bombshell

fascinating, im sure these guys will post a picture or something to refute it

 

[Pens1566]

Here some intel discovered by the Russians because of the memo.

We now know when Carter Paige was be surveiled. Anyone who talked to him during those times now knows it is likely they were surveiled as well.

Don't you think that is some intel that should have remained secret?

And that Chris Steele is a spy. He's burned for the future, and anyone he's been with in the past is burned as well. There's already been some of his sources on this that have turned up dead by ... strange circumstances.

 

[snarfbot]

the clinton body count continues to grow

 

[VRAMdemon]

What is interesting is that Nunes and Trump decided to hold up Page as some kind of victim, when it’s common knowledge this guy had suspicious dealings with Russia for years. Could they have tried to pick a more sympathetic fellow?

The only intelligent thing to conclude from the memo is that for some reason, the GOP is going out of its way to defend a known Russian agent and attack the FBI for doing what it’s supposed to do. Innocent people usually don’t behave like this.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Can we get off this misleading bullshit. Data for the dossier was paid for by...........

both Republicans and Democrats

How many times do we have to beat that through your head??

That's not accurate. Been said over and over in here. The "dossier" was created by Steele who joined Fusion AFTER the DNC took over. Months after. Whether any info was gathered before may be up to debate but I haven't seen anything to suggest that's the case.

 

[HomerJS]

I see a lot of people complaining about sourcing for the dossier. Its rare when law enforcement searches for evidence they can only question nuns. In many cases information is obtained from nefarious characters. Judges know this but it is accepted when investigators can corroborate with other sources. Even if you think the worst about the dossier its contents have other evidence to back it up.

To date as far as I know none of the dossier's contents have been dis-proven. Remember that dossier is raw intelligence. Contents still have to matched up with other evidence and that seems to have been done.

 

[Jaskalas]

There's more, but it's behind a pay wall.

WSJ: Fusion’s Russia Fog

Let’s see. The Clinton campaign hires Fusion GPS, an opposition research firm, to investigate the Trump campaign. Fusion hires a former British spy, Christopher Steele, who produces a dossier based on Russian sources full of rumor, hearsay and an occasional fact to allege collusion between the Kremlin and Trump campaign.​

 

[HomerJS]

Has anyone noticed who every has their fingerprints on the Nunes memo is intentionally avoiding the underlying intelligence including the FISA warrant.