Red light camera shows driver not at fault for running over mom/child

[Audit]

the SUV does slow down but you just can't see it in this zoomed in video. there's another video showing the suv stopping.

 

[gaidensensei]

Let's say SUV driver was autistic or has some kind of cognitive Impairment to not see the mom and kid. Autistic people can't handle multitasking (or attention in general), so the way I see it is that if the woman wins her suit, even mildly autistic people would not be driving.

 

[spidey07]

Let's say SUV driver was autistic or has some kind of cognitive Impairment to not see the mom and kid. Autistic people can't handle multitasking (or attention in general), so the way I see it is that if the woman wins her suit, even mildly autistic people would not be driving.

lolwut?

 

[mesthead21]

Holy shit, i literally work .2 miles from that intersection. Pretty damn crazy

 

[waggy]

Let's say SUV driver was autistic or has some kind of cognitive Impairment to not see the mom and kid. Autistic people can't handle multitasking (or attention in general), so the way I see it is that if the woman wins her suit, even mildly autistic people would not be driving.

WTF...

And lets say the lady with the kid was blind and didn't see the traffic. Lets say the lady with the kid thought she seen a 6ft tall white bunny and wanted to chase it.

,...wtf..

 

[Deeko]

I am both shocked and appalled that people are defending this woman. Are you nuts? Do you just defend [injured|pedestrians|women|minorities] by default? There is literally no other reason to be on her side. The SUV quite clearly could not see around the big white van, other cars were already halfway across the intersection, there is absolutely no way the driver of the SUV is at fault. None. If this woman gets a dime, it is an utter tragedy and a complete failure of our legal system.

 

[GlacierFreeze]

I am both shocked and appalled that people are defending this woman. Are you nuts? Do you just defend [injured|pedestrians|women|minorities] by default? There is literally no other reason to be on her side. The SUV quite clearly could not see around the big white van, other cars were already halfway across the intersection, there is absolutely no way the driver of the SUV is at fault. None. If this woman gets a dime, it is an utter tragedy and a complete failure of our legal system.

Hell, even if the SUV driver could see her, why does she run out in front of moving traffic, especially with her kid? Regardless of law and right of way, that's idiotic at best. Same goes for any other situation involving vehicles and pedestrians. If I'm walking, I'm not trusting anyone with a 2 ton vehicle no matter what. Law and right of way ain't stopping my brains from being spilled on the road for walking infront of them.

 

[PimpJuice]

The women should be charged with child endangerment and deported if illegal.

Anybody defending her actions is just as stupid as her.

 

[Kadarin]

The women should be charged with child endangerment and deported if illegal.

Anybody defending her actions is just as stupid as her.

I agree.

 

[FDF12389]

The women should be charged with child endangerment and deported if illegal.

Anybody defending her actions is just as stupid as her.

This.

 

[gaidensensei]

WTF...

And lets say the lady with the kid was blind and didn't see the traffic. Lets say the lady with the kid thought she seen a 6ft tall white bunny and wanted to chase it.

,...wtf..

Basically, what I'm trying to say to the people defending the woman is that the driver could have easily had some kind of slight mental impairment if she or he just wasn't paying attention to not see them. No attention span, asperger's, autism, schizo, etc are all mental impairments that highly fit a reason of why an orderly driver would not immediately stop after running over someone.

If realistically, the driver was autistic of some kind, the woman winning the suit pretty much basically says all of these impaired folks can't be driving - which completely twists and fails the equality system.

 

[spidey07]

Basically, what I'm trying to say to the people defending the woman is that the driver could have easily had some kind of slight mental impairment if she or he just wasn't paying attention to not see them. No attention span, asperger's, autism, schizo, etc are all mental impairments that highly fit a reason of why an orderly driver would not immediately stop after running over someone.

If realistically, the driver was autistic of some kind, the woman winning the suit pretty much basically says all of these impaired folks can't be driving - which completely twists and fails the equality system.

lolwut?

 

[xSkyDrAx]

Basically, what I'm trying to say to the people defending the woman is that the driver could have easily had some kind of slight mental impairment if she or he just wasn't paying attention to not see them. No attention span, asperger's, autism, schizo, etc are all mental impairments that highly fit a reason of why an orderly driver would not immediately stop after running over someone.

If realistically, the driver was autistic of some kind, the woman winning the suit pretty much basically says all of these impaired folks can't be driving - which completely twists and fails the equality system.

I think this has gone over your head. You don't have to defend the driver by saying they could have hypothetically been disabled and therefore might have not been able to stop. Any normal person wouldn't have been able to react any differently than that driver. That woman was just a wreckless idiot that was endangering the lives of her and her child.

 

[M0RPH]

Any normal person wouldn't have been able to react any differently than that driver.

Wrong. All of you people are just ignoring the video evidence which showed that he should have seen the woman walking right into his car but just kept driving like a dufus (or someone not paying attention to the road).

 

[alkemyst]

Wrong. All of you people are just ignoring the video evidence which showed that he should have seen the woman walking right into his car but just kept driving like a dufus (or someone not paying attention to the road).

You may want to read the articles...it's a fact that she was not visible until it was too late for the SUV driving.

Are you even old enough to drive? Anyone that has driven more than a few years can look at the video and see only that first newsclip shows where he would have been able to see them...however at that point he was (as well as those to the right of him) already well underway moving forward.

 

[Ns1]

Wrong. All of you people are just ignoring the video evidence which showed that he should have seen the woman walking right into his car but just kept driving like a dufus (or someone not paying attention to the road).

you miss the giant ass van to the left of the SUV or something?

 

[M0RPH]

You may want to read the articles...it's a fact that she was not visible until it was too late for the SUV driving.

Are you even old enough to drive? Anyone that has driven more than a few years can look at the video and see only that first newsclip shows where he would have been able to see them...however at that point he was (as well as those to the right of him) already well underway moving forward.

Why don't you judge the video for yourself instead of just going along with whatever was written? And yes, I've been driving for more than 20 years.

Let's look at this picture again shall we:

Do you dispute the fact that he should have seen her at this point? She's almost in his lane, she's beyond being blocked by the white truck at this point. Now feel free to go watch the video and judge his speed at this time, I'd say he's not going more than 15 mph, maybe 20 tops. He still has 10 feet to stop at this point. I'm quite sure that if it was me driving, I would have seen the lady at this point and hit the brakes and swerve to the right a bit to avoid her. I'm quite sure that most of us here would have been able to react better than the driver of this SUV, who didn't even flinch until well after running over a child in a freaking stroller (at what point he finally reacted I don't even know).

 

[alkemyst]

Why don't you judge the video for yourself instead of just going along with whatever was written? And yes, I've been driving for more than 20 years.

Let's look at this picture again shall we:

Do you dispute the fact that he should have seen her at this point? She's almost in his lane, she's beyond being blocked by the white truck at this point. Now feel free to go watch the video and judge his speed at this time, I'd say he's not going more than 15 mph, maybe 20 tops. He still has 10 feet to stop at this point. I'm quite sure that if it was me driving, I would have seen the lady at this point and hit the brakes and swerve to the right a bit to avoid her. I'm quite sure that most of us here would have been able to react better than the driver of this SUV, who didn't even flinch until well after running over a child in a freaking stroller (at what point he finally reacted I don't even know).

umm, dude, ummm...we have already been over this. That was taken after he had already been moving...he wasn't at stop there and for all we know was looking to his right to see if there was any one not stopping.

I am not sure where you are getting 10 feet either. Also if he was traveling at 15-20mph and most need about 1 second of reaction time...he's going to be traveling at least 25-30 feet prior to starting to hit his brakes.

However; I suppose physics and biological limitations do not exist in your universe of defending those truly at fault for the accidents they get into.

Sounds like you are profiling that SUV for some reason.

 

[Theb]

Let's say SUV driver was autistic or has some kind of cognitive Impairment to not see the mom and kid. Autistic people can't handle multitasking (or attention in general), so the way I see it is that if the woman wins her suit, even mildly autistic people would not be driving.

Lets say the SUV driver was a Wookiee. Wookiee's are from the planet Kashyyyk. Why would a Wookiee, an 8-foot-tall Wookiee, want to live on Earth, with a bunch of 6-foot-tall Humans? That does not make sense!

 

[SolMiester]

People cross intersections late all the time... that does not give you the right to run them over. Even given the fact that the truck was blocking his view, the driver of the SUV should have been able to see the lady and stop... at the very least he should have hit the brakes after he sees himself crashing into her. I'm pretty sure that he was in a big hurry and/or not paying proper attention to his surroundings. I hope the lady gets a nice chunk of cash.

You only need to look at this frame of the video, which is right at the top of that article. Clearly he should be able to see the lady is walking across, IF he was paying attention.

This is the bit I dont understand, HOW can the driver not see the pedestrians there?
In NZ, if a pedestrain is on the crossing controlled by lights, they still have right to cross if the light changes on them half way through their crossing the road...
The SUV driver failed to check if the crossing was clear...end of story IMO

 

[sdifox]

This is the bit I dont understand, HOW can the driver not see the pedestrians there?
In NZ, if a pedestrain is on the crossing controlled by lights, they still have right to cross if the light changes on them half way through their crossing the road...
The SUV driver failed to check if the crossing was clear...end of story IMO

NZ Law <> US Law. There is a median, pedestrian is supposed to stay there.

 

[SolMiester]

NZ Law <> US Law. There is a median, pedestrian is supposed to stay there.

I cant see the median, is it on the other side of the white van?.....If so, she should of stayed there I agree.....though I do think the SUV wasnt going too fast to stop IF the driver had been paying attention.

 

[alkemyst]

I cant see the median, is it on the other side of the white van?.....If so, she should of stayed there I agree.....though I do think the SUV wasnt going too fast to stop IF the driver had been paying attention.

You really need to watch the fucking videos. They explain this all. She either dragged her ass or left the other side of the road late.

I swear 90% here just respond to some post based on 'how they think it happened', which is about 90% of our problem in reality.

 

[sdifox]

I cant see the median, is it on the other side of the white van?.....If so, she should of stayed there I agree.....though I do think the SUV wasnt going too fast to stop IF the driver had been paying attention.

Not everyone has lightening fast reflexes. She moved out in front of the cars after the light changed to green for the cars. That is just retarded.

 

[bfdd]

BTW watching it again it does look like the RV is in a left turn lane backing up what I said earlier, they probably didn't get a turn signal hence they didn't move.

Anyone who thinks this driver had time to stop has never driven a vehicle. Even a tiny honda hatchback couldn't stop in time going 15 or 20 mph. Maybe an extremely high performance race car, but how often do you see Formula One cars on the road?

The other thing, the picture MORPH keeps posting does the EXACT OPPOSITE of what he is intending. You can clearly see a car which also got a green already TWO lanes into the intersection how could she have NOT walked late?