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Recall Republican Wisconsin Governor Walker status update thread

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Originally Posted by michal1980
How is that going against the will of the people?

Union Thugs are submitting tens of thousands of fraudulent signatures, everyone should be against that.

But you union puppets sure love to twist things

Ausm said:
Please post proof of your paranoid delusions.
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He won't and he can't.
I suspect he is on the Republican tit.
He has been defending Walker and his minions rigorously since day one.
 
dmcowen674 said:
Originally Posted by michal1980
How is that going against the will of the people?

Union Thugs are submitting tens of thousands of fraudulent signatures, everyone should be against that.

But you union puppets sure love to twist things



He won't and he can't.
I suspect he is on the Republican tit.
He has been defending Walker and his minions rigorously since day one.
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http://www.jsonline.com/news/statep...-to-halt-walker-recall-hu438e2-138895999.html

around 15% of the signatures on the recall invalid. At first look. That would amount to over 150,000 thousand false signatures.
 
michal1980 said:
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statep...-to-halt-walker-recall-hu438e2-138895999.html

around 15% of the signatures on the recall invalid. At first look. That would amount to over 150,000 thousand false signatures.
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Not false, invalid. They are very different things. Invalidity can cover a large number of different things.

As I mentioned before, the standard sampled percentage of invalid signatures is usually a bit below 20%. 15% is actually indicative of a BETTER than normal process. Does this alter your perception?
 
michal1980 said:
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statep...-to-halt-walker-recall-hu438e2-138895999.html

around 15% of the signatures on the recall invalid. At first look. That would amount to over 150,000 thousand false signatures.
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Right, something already presented in this thread, if only you bothered to read it. Moreover, according to information provided earlier in the thread, this is actually a lower rate of disqualified signatures than is typical for such public petitions.

Moreover, had you bothered to read your own link, you might have learned that these aren't necessarily "false" signatures, but disqualified or unverifiable signatures. Many were rejected because the address given didn't match public records. This can happen legitimately if someone moves, for example. One was disqualified because the date was incomplete, another because the person listed his address as "homeless". Those are grounds for disqualifying signatures, but it does not make them "false", your breathless spin notwithstanding.

But let's move on to your greatest thud, your complete and utter failure to support your mindless braying about "union thugs". Your linked article provides zero evidence supporting this allegation. Nada. Nor does anything else credible and factual you've offered. You're just making it up. It is an empty emotional cry drawn from your anti-labor bigotry. It's becoming really pathetic.
 
eskimospy said:
Not false, invalid. They are very different things. Invalidity can cover a large number of different things.

As I mentioned before, the standard sampled percentage of invalid signatures is usually a bit below 20%. 15% is actually indicative of a BETTER than normal process. Does this alter your perception?
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That was at first quick look.

Plus the Union Puppets claimed they checked the signatures before submitting them.

Theres already one investigation into recall fraud. If we actually had DAs that cared about it there could be hundreds.
 
michal1980 said:
That was at first quick look.

Plus the Union Puppets claimed they checked the signatures before submitting them.

Theres already one investigation into recall fraud. If we actually had DAs that cared about it there could be hundreds.
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'first quick look' was a random sample of 500 signatures, giving a margin of error of a bit over 4% given the population size. What form of other look would you wish to have done, and on what basis do you believe it would yield a substantially different result?

Are you disputing that the percentage is lower than average? If you agree that it is lower than average, what's your problem?
 
eskimospy said:
'first quick look' was a random sample of 500 signatures, giving a margin of error of a bit over 4% given the population size. What form of other look would you wish to have done, and on what basis do you believe it would yield a substantially different result?

Are you disputing that the percentage is lower than average? If you agree that it is lower than average, what's your problem?
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It might be lower. Its still 150,000 bad signatures, that the unions claimed they checked.

Asum was looking for fraud, its right in front of his face. He is just in denial of it happening.
 
michal1980 said:
It might be lower. Its still 150,000 bad signatures, that the unions claimed they checked.

Asum was looking for fraud, its right in front of his face. He is just in denial of it happening.
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So your complaint is that at first glance the petitions are more honest than normal, but they could have been even more honest so they are still bad? Do you hold other petitions to this standard? I highly doubt you do.

Furthermore, invalid signatures are not fraud. They are invalid signatures. There may be fraud within them, but the simple presence of them is not fraud.
 
michal1980 said:
Unlike you I'm independent, and can think for my self.

You just throw up whatever the unions tell you. Just Union puppet is what you are.
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Dude..I don't give a shit what political stripe you are but I do care about my State and I am doing EVERYTHING in my power to over throw our Dictator with his minions.

It's going to take a concerted effort to get rid of him when there is assloads of Koch bros cash flooding in our State...if you are independent make yourself useful and donate to act blue to save democracy.
 
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Ausm said:
Dude..I don't give a shit what political stripe you are but I do care about my State and I am doing EVERYTHING in my power to over throw our Dictator with his minions.
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If he is a dictator, you cannot recall him. Which is it, can you recall him or is he a dictator?
 
Ausm said:
Dude..I don't give a shit what political stripe you are but I do care about my State and I am doing EVERYTHING in my power to over throw our Dictator with his minions.

It's going to take a concerted effort to get rid of him when there is assloads of Koch bros cash flooding in our State...if you are independent make yourself useful and donate to act blue to save democracy.
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This post just shows how closed mind you are.

A dictator? He was freely elected. Laws were passed by two chambers, both of which were freely elected.

The only revolt to install a 'dictator' is the one that your side is attempting to pull off.


And stop talking about koch bros, if you have no problems with public Unions buying a candidate, and trying to install them as their puppet.
 
eskimospy said:
So your complaint is that at first glance the petitions are more honest than normal, but they could have been even more honest so they are still bad? Do you hold other petitions to this standard? I highly doubt you do.

Furthermore, invalid signatures are not fraud. They are invalid signatures. There may be fraud within them, but the simple presence of them is not fraud.
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I pointed that out earlier, with examples from his own link, no less. Naturally he ignores that since it contradicts his Koch-approved talking points.

He also ignores the fact that the spot check he brays about was done using more stringent criteria than is required by law for the Wisconsin GAB. It is therefore not surprising that his "unions" bogeyman didn't flag them in their preliminary reviews.
 
Ausm said:
Dude..I don't give a shit what political stripe you are but I do care about my State and I am doing EVERYTHING in my power to over throw our Dictator with his minions.

It's going to take a concerted effort to get rid of him when there is assloads of Koch bros cash flooding in our State...if you are independent make yourself useful and donate to act blue to save democracy.
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Freely elected? Yes. Ergo not a dictator.

And I'm sure the left isn't pouring in donations of their own. 🙄

.
 
MotF Bane said:
Freely elected? Yes. Ergo not a dictator.

And I'm sure the left isn't pouring in donations of their own. 🙄

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It's different when Democrat money floods in from out of state, cause it's... umm cause it's ... you know like different....cause it's union money .... and Soros money .... so it's different then bad, evil, nasty Republican kinda money ...... Soros money is like clean and it's green and green is good.
 
monovillage said:
It's different when Democrat money floods in from out of state, cause it's... umm cause it's ... you know like different....cause it's union money .... and Soros money .... so it's different then bad, evil, nasty Republican kinda money ...... Soros money is like clean and it's green and green is good.
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Can't have one side have all the outside money now can we?
 
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