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Recall Republican Wisconsin Governor Walker status update thread

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Union thugs? LMAO Do you have any other Right Wing buzz word??

Walker is going to be questioned by the D.A. since one of his cronies went down and is turning States evidence.

For someone who swallows democrat propeganda like candy and uses their buzz words in almost every single post, you sure are quick to point the finger at others.
 
Here's a much more in-depth article about the GOP's secret gerrymandering effort. Sounds like quite a scandal in its own right.

I'll specifically note that Sir Cad's spin about attorney-client privilege was already rejected by a three-judge panel. Similarly, his excuse that this was an internal Republican activity falls flat on its face when you consider that Wisconsin taxpayers paid $400,000 to the GOP's law firm to help draw up these maps.

Finally, just to further illustrate the GOP's duplicity and contempt for the people of Wisconsin, they were forced to release a document instructing GOP lawmakers to ignore what their leadership was telling the public, but to listen only to what they said in their secret meetings.

Anyway, much, much more at the link from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel:

Yeah, it was rejected by a panel. I didn't claim it wasn't, nor did I suggest it was a good argument. I merely pointed out that it was their argument and it went to why it was an internal GOP issue. One must also keep in mind that I never once stated that I would have signed it(as I wouldn't have) but again my statements here do not run counter to what I've stated in the past regarding transparency. You libs will try to suggest otherwise as always but as the reporting I commented on(before the panel ruling) it looked to be an internal matter - NOT a bill negotiation.
Meh, bleat on... no doubt you will...
 
Those Union thugs are at it again. This time they are demanding that democrats veto the next budget unless full collective bargaining is restored.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statep...ll-to-make-veto-pledge-rs44cuo-138957844.html

So disgraceful that unions would pull a stunt like this. I'm glad that those scumbags are going down.

Lol, the left here will eat that up and just nod in agreement. Clearly we will have more fireworks in Wisconsin before this all settles out. The powers in Milwaukee and Madison on the left will not let this die until they get their power over the taxpayer's purse back - It's just how they roll. I can't wait to move up there now so there are 2 more rational voters in Wisconsin to balance out the union fluffers.
 
Fact is Walker did not touch the Public Unions that supported him, Firefighters and Police got a free pass. In a union pocket you say?

Nudge, nudge "All you flunkeys better NOT do any WALKER FOR GOV campaign work on public time!" wink, wink, really means "Better work your ass off electing ME Gov'nor!" Way to get deniability!

WOW! GOP signing oaths to keep redistricting SECRET. They got a secret hand shake and a "HEIL WALKER!" in their reportoire too?
 
Yeah, it was rejected by a panel. I didn't claim it wasn't, nor did I suggest it was a good argument. I merely pointed out that it was their argument and it went to why it was an internal GOP issue. One must also keep in mind that I never once stated that I would have signed it(as I wouldn't have) but again my statements here do not run counter to what I've stated in the past regarding transparency. You libs will try to suggest otherwise as always but as the reporting I commented on(before the panel ruling) it looked to be an internal matter - NOT a bill negotiation.
Meh, bleat on... no doubt you will...
Cad, I appreciate your compulsion to be a good little GOP apologist, but you're being blatantly dishonest. When they're spending $400,000 of public money -- NOT GOP money, but public, taxpayer money -- there's no way they or you or anyone else can pretend this was an "internal" matter. They absolutely knew it was not, their excuses are blatant lies, and now you're parroting those lies. (And that ignores the obvious fact that redistricting is a public issue, even if they hadn't used $400K of tax dollars.)

Man up, Cad. The Wisconsin GOP was clearly in the wrong here, and you're wrong for defending them.
 
Cad, I appreciate your compulsion to be a good little GOP apologist, but you're being blatantly dishonest. When they're spending $400,000 of public money -- NOT GOP money, but public, taxpayer money -- there's no way they or you or anyone else can pretend this was an "internal" matter. They absolutely knew it was not, their excuses are blatant lies, and now you're parroting those lies. (And that ignores the obvious fact that redistricting is a public issue, even if they hadn't used $400K of tax dollars.)

Man up, Cad. The Wisconsin GOP was clearly in the wrong here, and you're wrong for defending them.

You need to go back and read what I posted. The story as I commented on it was about the non-disclosure. There is nothing dishonest except your attempt to claim I was talking about the redistricting itself instead of what I commented on. Again, NO one else but GOP assembly people were asked to sign it - it was most certainly an internal GOP item. Sheesh. Nice try though, I can always count on you and others here to take things posted and twist them. Oh well, it's what makes this place interesting - seeing how fantastically obtuse some of you can get. 🙂
 
You need to go back and read what I posted. The story as I commented on it was about the non-disclosure. There is nothing dishonest except your attempt to claim I was talking about the redistricting itself instead of what I commented on. Again, NO one else but GOP assembly people were asked to sign it - it was most certainly an internal GOP item. Sheesh. Nice try though, I can always count on you and others here to take things posted and twist them. Oh well, it's what makes this place interesting - seeing how fantastically obtuse some of you can get. 🙂

So wait a minute, since at least at one point the Democrats could have passed the health care bill with entirely Democratic votes, you would have been ok with them determining the content of it behind closed doors because it was an internal discussion?
 
So wait a minute, since at least at one point the Democrats could have passed the health care bill with entirely Democratic votes, you would have been ok with them determining the content of it behind closed doors because it was an internal discussion?

Please read my comment on the original story link. Then read the rest. It would be a distortion of my comments and positions to suggest my comments relate to anything you posted above.
 
Please read my comment on the original story link. Then read the rest. It would be a distortion of my comments and positions to suggest my comments relate to anything you posted above.

They signed agreements not to talk about it until their bill was ready. You thought that it was good to not to let out information about parts of it until the entire bill was ready because of 'media distortion'.

Had the Democrats not spoken one bit about the health care bill until it was ready to be voted on, I think you would have had an awfully big problem with that. Perhaps you can explain the difference.
 
They signed agreements not to talk about it until their bill was ready. You thought that it was good to not to let out information about parts of it until the entire bill was ready because of 'media distortion'.

Had the Democrats not spoken one bit about the health care bill until it was ready to be voted on, I think you would have had an awfully big problem with that. Perhaps you can explain the difference.

Obama promised transparency in government if he was elected. Had he not, then closed door sessions (which have been the norm) would not have been a big deal.
 
They signed agreements not to talk about it until their bill was ready. You thought that it was good to not to let out information about parts of it until the entire bill was ready because of 'media distortion'.

Had the Democrats not spoken one bit about the health care bill until it was ready to be voted on, I think you would have had an awfully big problem with that. Perhaps you can explain the difference.

The non-disclosure as I read it suggested that it was about privilege(panel overruled that) but it's still an internal tool they used to keep their people from allowing media distortion(my opinion) and whatever other reasons they may have had. THAT is a different thing than the BILL. My comments were on the tool used for internal happenings. You and bowfinger seem to want to make it about the Bill, which is not what my comments were about. You can try to distort it how you wish but if you would actually look at what I posted, you'd see my comments were on the non-disclosure which is what was linked. If you want to discuss the actual bill negotiations- fine. I believe they should follow the rules as currently written. The rules may need to be changed if it does not allow for sufficient transparency in negotiations but I'm not privy to those details. 🙂
 
WTF is that? Oh if I am wrong then show me.

LO F'n L. What good will showing you wrong do? Remember your infamous "I don't live in Madison but I live in Madison with 1 out 2 households bringing home 100K+" debacle? We all make mistakes and have brain cramps (I know I do!), it is amazing how a simple "oops, you were right, my bad" will go to fostering civil and mature discussion.

Now, back to your high horse. 🙄
 
Group Files Complaint Over Secret GOP Redistricting Process
Republicans Signed Redistricting Secrecy Deals

http://www.channel3000.com/politics/30412738/detail.html

Maybe after Walker goes down due to corruption he could be a spooning partner with Blago? I'm sure the State wouldn't mind sending him down south.

Meh.

Every time Republicans are in control to redistrict, Democrats have a hissy fit.

Every time Democrats are in control to redistrict, Republicans have a hissy fit.

Come back when you have something substantial.
 
They signed agreements not to talk about it until their bill was ready. You thought that it was good to not to let out information about parts of it until the entire bill was ready because of 'media distortion'.

Had the Democrats not spoken one bit about the health care bill until it was ready to be voted on, I think you would have had an awfully big problem with that. Perhaps you can explain the difference.

It's all about calculated risks.

Republicans had the task of redistricting that they needed to get done. They do it in a fully open, fully transparent process, people like Ausm bitch up a storm over every detail of everything that happens. They do it in the manner they did, people like Ausm still bitch up a storm over every detail of everything that happens. The Republicans took a calculated risk no matter which way they decided to proceed.

Do you believe that the results of their redistricting will harm people? Well, if you're of the group that believes all Republicans harm people, then of course you will believe that this redistricting is evil.


Does the effects of redistricting affect people's individual lives? I mean, how much impact does redistricting have on someone's plannings for the future? If you take Ausm at his word, Democrats are going to take back control of all levels of the state government no matter how the state gets redistricted.

Compared to the Obamacare? Where people need to prepare for expenses, prepare for changes in care?
 
It's all about calculated risks.

Republicans had the task of redistricting that they needed to get done. They do it in a fully open, fully transparent process, people like Ausm bitch up a storm over every detail of everything that happens. They do it in the manner they did, people like Ausm still bitch up a storm over every detail of everything that happens. The Republicans took a calculated risk no matter which way they decided to proceed.

Do you believe that the results of their redistricting will harm people? Well, if you're of the group that believes all Republicans harm people, then of course you will believe that this redistricting is evil.

Does the effects of redistricting affect people's individual lives? I mean, how much impact does redistricting have on someone's plannings for the future?

Compared to the Obamacare? Where people need to prepare for expenses, prepare for changes in care?

I think we can all agree that the fundamental purpose of drawing up electoral districts is to create the most accurate expression of the will of the voters possible. Correct? Years of gerrymandering and redistricting have led to states of both colors electing representatives of vastly different ideological composition to the electorate, leading to poorer levels of federal representation for everyone.

I most certainly believe that skewed representation affects people's individual lives, but it does so over the course of a thousand votes, not just one big one. Redistricting is most certainly horrible in its current form. It is carried out with the express intent by parties to twist voting patterns to their desired outcome.
 
Maybe after Walker goes down due to corruption he could be a spooning partner with Blago? I'm sure the State wouldn't mind sending him down south.

Maybe if you actually found something Walker did that was even in the same ballpark as what Blagojovich did, we'd take you seriously.

But you ain't got shit.
 
I think we can all agree that the fundamental purpose of drawing up electoral districts is to create the most accurate expression of the will of the voters possible. Correct?

How do you achieve that?

You have numerous people, Ausm being one prime example, who generally believe that most people who vote Republican are because they have fallen for Republican propaganda lies.

Therefore, it is the rightful duty of the Democratic Party to Gerrymander the districts to elect more Democrats, because that is the true expression of the will of the voters.

X% of the population is black, Y% of the population is Latino, Z% of the population is female. Gerrymandering is a necessity to achieve X% black representatives, Y% Latino representatives, Z% female representatives, in winner-take-all district elections. And after that, we still forgot about the Asian community.

The whole districting process is an imperfect system, and always will be. If you want to create the most accurate expression of the will of the voters, you need to devise a whole new way of governing.
 
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The back and forth battles have begun.

Republicans will do anything to go against the will of the people.

2-10-2012

http://news.yahoo.com/four-wisconsin-republican-lawmakers-challenge-recall-signatures-020501632.html

Four Wisconsin Republican lawmakers challenge recall signatures



Four Wisconsin lawmakers targeted for possible recall later this year filed challenges on Thursday to the validity of thousands of signatures gathered to force the special elections, the state's Government Accountability Board said.

In a statement, Fitzgerald cited "a wide range of irregularities, errors and outright falsehoods" in the petitions submitted to force him to defend his seat. He said he planned to challenge 4,300 of the signatures, which could be enough to derail the effort to unseat him.

If the board verifies enough signatures against any of the four senators targeted in this second wave of recalls, it will call a special election that could alter the balance of power in the state Senate, where Republicans hold a 17-16 majority.


Recall petitioners now have five days to rebut the challenges, after which the officeholders will have two days to reply, according to state law.


The Government Accountability Board then has until March 19 to verify the recalls. Until then, the board will review the challenges and continue to review petitions.

Since recall organizers submitted what they said were about 1.9 million total signatures, supporters of the six targeted Republicans have asked volunteers to help comb through the thousands of petition forms posted online.
 
The back and forth battles have begun.

Republicans will do anything to go against the will of the people.

2-10-2012

http://news.yahoo.com/four-wisconsin-republican-lawmakers-challenge-recall-signatures-020501632.html

Four Wisconsin Republican lawmakers challenge recall signatures



Four Wisconsin lawmakers targeted for possible recall later this year filed challenges on Thursday to the validity of thousands of signatures gathered to force the special elections, the state's Government Accountability Board said.

In a statement, Fitzgerald cited "a wide range of irregularities, errors and outright falsehoods" in the petitions submitted to force him to defend his seat. He said he planned to challenge 4,300 of the signatures, which could be enough to derail the effort to unseat him.

If the board verifies enough signatures against any of the four senators targeted in this second wave of recalls, it will call a special election that could alter the balance of power in the state Senate, where Republicans hold a 17-16 majority.


Recall petitioners now have five days to rebut the challenges, after which the officeholders will have two days to reply, according to state law.


The Government Accountability Board then has until March 19 to verify the recalls. Until then, the board will review the challenges and continue to review petitions.

Since recall organizers submitted what they said were about 1.9 million total signatures, supporters of the six targeted Republicans have asked volunteers to help comb through the thousands of petition forms posted online.

How is that going against the will of the people?

Union Thugs are submitting tens of thousands of fraudulent signatures, everyone should be against that.

But you union puppets sure love to twist things
 
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