GodlessAstronomer
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- Oct 27, 2007
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The police weren't lied to, they were given a faulty eye witness account. That's an extremely important difference, because we expect law enforcement officers to be aware of the flaws in eye witness accounts and take appropriate measures to protect the innocent.
SarcasticDwarf
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zerocool84
Lifer
- Nov 11, 2004
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I usually try to side with cops cus they get a lot of flack but that was excessive. I hope the guy sues the Police force.
Any link to the full news story? The video was posted by the AP, so there has to be a story somewhere.
mjrpes3
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- Oct 2, 2004
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They're saying the guy started running away from the cops after they told him to stop. Which, if true, is unfortunate because I think the officer used way too much force. But now the cop can just say he was following normal procedure on how to handle a fleeing suspect.
gorcorps
aka Brandon
- Jul 18, 2004
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We don't know the circumstances. Some guy was wanted for assault. That means he could be armed, and obviously he was on the run as they've been looking for him so maybe the cop just pounced to get it over with. I mean they get sued for using tasers and all now, so maybe a tackle was a hope to avoid a mess with that? Doesn't matter... he hit him way too hard either way. I'm just sick of all the retarded goddamn cop bashing in this thread. I swear it looks like the lyrics to the latest rap album.
Why would the department back him up when it's obvious that what the cop did was against the rules? Now instead of 1 bad cop breaking the rules, the entire department's credibility is called into question. Their PR guy needs to be fired immediately.
theflyingpig
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Interesting. You view this officer as a Jesus figure. I wasn't expecting that from you, jpeyton. I wasn't expecting that at all.
This isn't unusual at all. And this is why people hate cops. Sure the Cop Apologists can bitch and moan about how "Oh well it's just one bad egg, most cops are angels who would never dream of doing anything untoward!" but they know they're fucking retarded because virtually ANY time one of them does something like this, the police department immediately fires back with "He was just doing his job, fuck you civilians."
Then either the department gets investigated, and they do damage control and fire the guy, or the whole story fizzles out because the department stonewalls and people lose interest. Either way, it's tough to use the argument that the bad cop is in the tiny, insignificant minority when you see this kind of behavior by the police force in general ALL the time. It's not called the Blue Wall of Silence for nothin'.
DarkThinker
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To play the devil's advocate, the officer was obviously expecting to knock the guy to the floor and then cuff him, but I guess in the rush of the chase paid no attention of whatsoever to wall clearance. The guy who got knocked had the crappiest of lucks in the world.... had he been heavier, he would have been pushed just less enough to not hit his head like that...OUCH!
Obviously, the officer is to be investigated ASAP and his badge suspended until any further notice. The PD's city has the responsibility to take care of the guy assaulted even if that means cutting him a check every month of every year of the rest of his life if he makes it but became disabled, they will have to step up to the responsibility.
But to charge the cop with attempted murder like some people are saying, is way out there, just as much as the shove was way out there on the force scale. There was no attempt on the guy's life.
Obviously, the officer is to be investigated ASAP and his badge suspended until any further notice. The PD's city has the responsibility to take care of the guy assaulted even if that means cutting him a check every month of every year of the rest of his life if he makes it but became disabled, they will have to step up to the responsibility.
But to charge the cop with attempted murder like some people are saying, is way out there, just as much as the shove was way out there on the force scale. There was no attempt on the guy's life.
lxskllr
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- Nov 30, 2004
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Why Shouldn't he be charged? Lets change the events slightly... What do you suppose would happen if the guy ducked in self defense, and the cop tripped over him, hit his head into the wall and was in a coma? You can bet your ass he'd be in jail, and would be charged with something to keep him there a long time.
Nonsense. Notice how he tosses the victim's unconscious body around like a rag doll even after the initial assault. It isn't about bad luck or not paying attention; it's about getting revenge for having to chase the guy by making the arrest as violent as possible.
Chris Rock's joke about the police bringing an ass kicking with them if they have to chase you wasn't just pulled out of his ass, you know.
Sea Moose
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I suppose everyone has a different point of view. I see a guy evading police, who might have a weapon? Meh if you try to evade the police... expect the worse.
If you dont break the law this wont happen to you.... Should show this video in schools.
Red Irish
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I suppose you skipped class the day they were handing out brains. You saw a "guy evading the police"? I recommend an optician and a psychiatrist, not necessarily in that order, and I also recommend that you never be allowed to occupy any position within the education system.
You are an ass.
Sea Moose
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Haha being a cop isnt the same as your average office job, where the most action in the day is karen from accounts farted in a meeing.
The police dont really care about PR. They are the Police FORCE. You break the law you need to be apprehended. If you evade cops you will .... WILL get hurt.
Somthing for all you office people to talk about around the water cooler whilst sipping lattes complaining about a broken fingernail.
Red Irish
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Listen, I'm not sure if you are over the trauma of Santa yet, but I have to tell you that Chuck Norris is an actor: they are just films, it's not real life. The "victim" is in a coma. Incidentally, I see you pay as much attention to your own PR as the police FORCE.
That's an odd statement, since the victim didn't break any law. Was there some ambiguity in the numerous references to him being the wrong man and innocent?
Anyone who isn't a complete moron sees an innocent man running from people he likely did not realize were police. The chase was initiated by someone pointing at him from the other end of an alley and yelling and then two men running toward him, a situation which would cause anyone to flee. The video suggests that he did eventually realize that they were police, since he clearly slows down and raises his hands just before the assault.
Of course, you can afford to be cavalier about the situation; head injuries aren't much of a danger to someone without a brain.
Sea Moose
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Ha i knew i would get the response i did from you people.
So i am not allowed to have an opinion on what i saw in a video? Isnt that facism?
i watched the opening scene a couple of times.
I see a guy who is jogging looking over his shoulder. How long has he been running and what he has done is not mentioned. The police are professionals, so i trust that the guy has done somthing wrong has been running from them. They usually take down people like that if they are assumed to have a weapon.
*next i listened to the news report*
Now if you listened to the interview you will hear the sheriffs office saying that " police do not wake up in the morning with the intention of harming people" A statement i totally agree with
They had probable cause to believe that the guy had committed a crime, the police called out three times and he bolted.
It is a tragic accident of circumstances
a)Mistaken identidy
b)The guy bolted
If police tell you to stop.... YOU STOP
Am i stupid for having a different opinion to you? Or are you unable to have a debate like a gentleman.
So i am not allowed to have an opinion on what i saw in a video? Isnt that facism?
i watched the opening scene a couple of times.
I see a guy who is jogging looking over his shoulder. How long has he been running and what he has done is not mentioned. The police are professionals, so i trust that the guy has done somthing wrong has been running from them. They usually take down people like that if they are assumed to have a weapon.
*next i listened to the news report*
Now if you listened to the interview you will hear the sheriffs office saying that " police do not wake up in the morning with the intention of harming people" A statement i totally agree with
They had probable cause to believe that the guy had committed a crime, the police called out three times and he bolted.
It is a tragic accident of circumstances
a)Mistaken identidy
b)The guy bolted
If police tell you to stop.... YOU STOP
Am i stupid for having a different opinion to you? Or are you unable to have a debate like a gentleman.
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