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Sea Moose

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Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: bthorny
I hate cops...
We should take all there guns away from them and see if they walk around like badasses then...

They're suppose to be there as public servants....unfortunately most of them don't know that this is their primary role.

Most of them in my experience are no better than thugs with badges.

In london, the street cops do not carry guns. They do carry billy clubs and pepper spray. There is a seperate gun unit.

There is a show on the crime channel that follows the unarmed london cops around and they do take downs with extreme force.

How often do they crack a suspect's skull open against a wall and leave them in a coma?

A guy was accidently shot on suspicion of being a sucide bomber after that bomb attack.
 

Red Irish

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Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: bthorny
I hate cops...
We should take all there guns away from them and see if they walk around like badasses then...

They're suppose to be there as public servants....unfortunately most of them don't know that this is their primary role.

Most of them in my experience are no better than thugs with badges.

In london, the street cops do not carry guns. They do carry billy clubs and pepper spray. There is a seperate gun unit.

There is a show on the crime channel that follows the unarmed london cops around and they do take downs with extreme force.

How often do they crack a suspect's skull open against a wall and leave them in a coma?

A guy was accidently shot on suspicion of being a sucide bomber after that bomb attack.

I am aware of that, two wrongs don't make a right:

http://www.reuters.com/article...USIndia-30279020071101
 

Sea Moose

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Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: bthorny
I hate cops...
We should take all there guns away from them and see if they walk around like badasses then...

They're suppose to be there as public servants....unfortunately most of them don't know that this is their primary role.

Most of them in my experience are no better than thugs with badges.

In london, the street cops do not carry guns. They do carry billy clubs and pepper spray. There is a seperate gun unit.

There is a show on the crime channel that follows the unarmed london cops around and they do take downs with extreme force.

How often do they crack a suspect's skull open against a wall and leave them in a coma?

A guy was accidently shot on suspicion of being a sucide bomber after that bomb attack.

I am aware of that, two wrongs don't make a right:

http://www.reuters.com/article...USIndia-30279020071101

two wrongs dont make a right? Wtf? you asked the question of when the English metro police made an accident during their duty. I answered your question.

 

Red Irish

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Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: bthorny
I hate cops...
We should take all there guns away from them and see if they walk around like badasses then...

They're suppose to be there as public servants....unfortunately most of them don't know that this is their primary role.

Most of them in my experience are no better than thugs with badges.

In london, the street cops do not carry guns. They do carry billy clubs and pepper spray. There is a seperate gun unit.

There is a show on the crime channel that follows the unarmed london cops around and they do take downs with extreme force.

How often do they crack a suspect's skull open against a wall and leave them in a coma?

A guy was accidently shot on suspicion of being a sucide bomber after that bomb attack.

I am aware of that, two wrongs don't make a right:

http://www.reuters.com/article...USIndia-30279020071101

two wrongs dont make a right? Wtf? you asked the question of when the English metro police made an accident during their duty. I answered your question.

You appeared to be justifying the violence by drawing attention to the "extreme force" employed by the London Police and broadcast on the crime channel. There is nothing comparable on British police shows to a guy having his skull cracked open and being left in a coma. Given this fact, you were forced to draw attention to a situation wherein the Met made a terrible mistake. I hope I have answered your question: "wtf?"
 

Sea Moose

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Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: bthorny
I hate cops...
We should take all there guns away from them and see if they walk around like badasses then...

They're suppose to be there as public servants....unfortunately most of them don't know that this is their primary role.

Most of them in my experience are no better than thugs with badges.

In london, the street cops do not carry guns. They do carry billy clubs and pepper spray. There is a seperate gun unit.

There is a show on the crime channel that follows the unarmed london cops around and they do take downs with extreme force.

How often do they crack a suspect's skull open against a wall and leave them in a coma?

A guy was accidently shot on suspicion of being a sucide bomber after that bomb attack.

I am aware of that, two wrongs don't make a right:

http://www.reuters.com/article...USIndia-30279020071101

two wrongs dont make a right? Wtf? you asked the question of when the English metro police made an accident during their duty. I answered your question.

You appeared to be justifying the violence by drawing attention to the "extreme force" employed by the London Police and broadcast on the crime channel. There is nothing comparable on British police shows to a guy having his skull cracked open and being left in a coma. Given this fact, you were forced to draw attention to a situation wherein the Met made a terrible mistake. I hope I have answered your question: "wtf?"

Ok red irish, your so awesome, and all knowing! Tell me, how would you take down a person that weighs 110kg that is extrememly drunk and therefore can no longer feel pain? They are in a public place, say, the local night spot and they commited a crime. The said person hates police and will punch any cop in the face that comes near.


In your advanced awsomeness could you tell lowly mortals like me how you would deal with this situation, from the point of view from a police officer?
 

Red Irish

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Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: bthorny
I hate cops...
We should take all there guns away from them and see if they walk around like badasses then...

They're suppose to be there as public servants....unfortunately most of them don't know that this is their primary role.

Most of them in my experience are no better than thugs with badges.

In london, the street cops do not carry guns. They do carry billy clubs and pepper spray. There is a seperate gun unit.

There is a show on the crime channel that follows the unarmed london cops around and they do take downs with extreme force.

How often do they crack a suspect's skull open against a wall and leave them in a coma?

A guy was accidently shot on suspicion of being a sucide bomber after that bomb attack.

I am aware of that, two wrongs don't make a right:

http://www.reuters.com/article...USIndia-30279020071101

two wrongs dont make a right? Wtf? you asked the question of when the English metro police made an accident during their duty. I answered your question.

You appeared to be justifying the violence by drawing attention to the "extreme force" employed by the London Police and broadcast on the crime channel. There is nothing comparable on British police shows to a guy having his skull cracked open and being left in a coma. Given this fact, you were forced to draw attention to a situation wherein the Met made a terrible mistake. I hope I have answered your question: "wtf?"

Ok red irish, your so awesome, and all knowing! Tell me, how would you take down a person that weighs 110kg that is extrememly drunk and therefore can no longer feel pain? They are in a public place, say, the local night spot and they commited a crime. The said person hates police and will punch any cop in the face that comes near.


In your advanced awsomeness could you tell lowly mortals like me how you would deal with this situation, from the point of view from a police officer?

Well, given that I weigh somewhere in the neighbourhood of 110 kg....

How old are you?

I can tell you what I wouldn't do: I wouldn't crack his skull open and leave him in a coma if I could possibly prevent it. In the case in hand, the violence was unnecessary and unwarranted. Is that "awesome" enough for you?

Thanks for that highly engaging hypothetical situation and all the compliments.


 

Sea Moose

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Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: bthorny
I hate cops...
We should take all there guns away from them and see if they walk around like badasses then...

They're suppose to be there as public servants....unfortunately most of them don't know that this is their primary role.

Most of them in my experience are no better than thugs with badges.

In london, the street cops do not carry guns. They do carry billy clubs and pepper spray. There is a seperate gun unit.

There is a show on the crime channel that follows the unarmed london cops around and they do take downs with extreme force.

How often do they crack a suspect's skull open against a wall and leave them in a coma?

A guy was accidently shot on suspicion of being a sucide bomber after that bomb attack.

I am aware of that, two wrongs don't make a right:

http://www.reuters.com/article...USIndia-30279020071101

two wrongs dont make a right? Wtf? you asked the question of when the English metro police made an accident during their duty. I answered your question.

You appeared to be justifying the violence by drawing attention to the "extreme force" employed by the London Police and broadcast on the crime channel. There is nothing comparable on British police shows to a guy having his skull cracked open and being left in a coma. Given this fact, you were forced to draw attention to a situation wherein the Met made a terrible mistake. I hope I have answered your question: "wtf?"

Ok red irish, your so awesome, and all knowing! Tell me, how would you take down a person that weighs 110kg that is extrememly drunk and therefore can no longer feel pain? They are in a public place, say, the local night spot and they commited a crime. The said person hates police and will punch any cop in the face that comes near.


In your advanced awsomeness could you tell lowly mortals like me how you would deal with this situation, from the point of view from a police officer?

Well, given that I weigh somewhere in the neighbourhood of 110 kg....

How old are you?

I can tell you what I wouldn't do: I wouldn't crack his skull open and leave him in a coma if I could possibly prevent it. In the case in hand, the violence was unnecessary and unwarranted. Is that "awesome" enough for you?

Thanks for that highly engaging hypothetical situation and all the compliments.

You managed to deflect the question and tell me what you wouldnt do. I gave you a fairly standard scenario from any popular night spots where people over do it with the drink.

The fact is, you and most others wouldnt know what to do. I wouldnt know what to do. I am sure if you were in the position of the officer you would not try and smash someones neck, but when people are trying to evade police at high speed these things happen. Turn on the tv and watch the shows that show high speed car chases that often end in a car crash. I have seen footage of a person in a car, trying to evade police, that ran into the passenger side of another car with a baby in it.

I am old enough to know that the officer in the op's video will be put on trial,wether before an internal investigations unit or before a criminal court and is innocent until proven guilty by an impartial jury. i would like someone to post media updates, i am now interested to see the fate of the officer.
 

Red Irish

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Originally posted by: Sea Moose
You managed to deflect the question and tell me what you wouldnt do. I gave you a fairly standard scenario from any popular night spots where people over do it with the drink.

The fact is, you and most others wouldnt know what to do. I wouldnt know what to do. I am sure if you were in the position of the officer you would not try and smash someones neck, but when people are trying to evade police at high speed these things happen. Turn on the tv and watch the shows that show high speed car chases that often end in a car crash. I have seen footage of a person in a car, trying to evade police, that ran into the passenger side of another car with a baby in it.

I am old enough to know that the officer in the op's video will be put on trial,wether before an internal investigations unit or before a criminal court and is innocent until proven guilty by an impartial jury. i would like someone to post media updates, i am now interested to see the fate of the officer.

Sea Moose, there is no room for debate here: a case of excessive force, pure and simple, unless you happen to be a moron.

Incidentally, I am more interested in whether or not the guy comes out of the coma, but thanks for sharing your main concern (i.e. the fate of the officer).

 

Sea Moose

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Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
You managed to deflect the question and tell me what you wouldnt do. I gave you a fairly standard scenario from any popular night spots where people over do it with the drink.

The fact is, you and most others wouldnt know what to do. I wouldnt know what to do. I am sure if you were in the position of the officer you would not try and smash someones neck, but when people are trying to evade police at high speed these things happen. Turn on the tv and watch the shows that show high speed car chases that often end in a car crash. I have seen footage of a person in a car, trying to evade police, that ran into the passenger side of another car with a baby in it.

I am old enough to know that the officer in the op's video will be put on trial,wether before an internal investigations unit or before a criminal court and is innocent until proven guilty by an impartial jury. i would like someone to post media updates, i am now interested to see the fate of the officer.

Sea Moose, there is no room for debate here: a case of excessive force, pure and simple, unless you happen to be a moron.

Incidentally, I am more interested in whether or not the guy comes out of the coma, but thanks for sharing your main concern (i.e. the fate of the officer).

Haha take the high and mighty road! Of course i am concerned about that poor lad in a coma. I pray that he has a full recovery!

I also pray that the officer gets a fair trial, and doesnt blow his brains out over the guilt of this accident. Unless you are a FACIST he does deserve a fair revue.
 

Red Irish

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Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
You managed to deflect the question and tell me what you wouldnt do. I gave you a fairly standard scenario from any popular night spots where people over do it with the drink.

The fact is, you and most others wouldnt know what to do. I wouldnt know what to do. I am sure if you were in the position of the officer you would not try and smash someones neck, but when people are trying to evade police at high speed these things happen. Turn on the tv and watch the shows that show high speed car chases that often end in a car crash. I have seen footage of a person in a car, trying to evade police, that ran into the passenger side of another car with a baby in it.

I am old enough to know that the officer in the op's video will be put on trial,wether before an internal investigations unit or before a criminal court and is innocent until proven guilty by an impartial jury. i would like someone to post media updates, i am now interested to see the fate of the officer.

Sea Moose, there is no room for debate here: a case of excessive force, pure and simple, unless you happen to be a moron.

Incidentally, I am more interested in whether or not the guy comes out of the coma, but thanks for sharing your main concern (i.e. the fate of the officer).

Haha take the high and mighty road! Of course i am concerned about that poor lad in a coma. I pray that he has a full recovery!

I also pray that the officer gets a fair trial, and doesnt blow his brains out over the guilt of this accident. Unless you are a FACIST he does deserve a fair revue.

Pray away.

I am sure he will be given a fair review, in fact, he will most probably be let off.

You have a strange vision of the world: a police officer cracks a guy's head open and leaves him in a coma and you are concerned about his fate. Personally, I feel that your views a more in keeping with fascism, although I fail to see the relevance of fascism in this debate.

 

Sea Moose

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Look, i have my point of view, you have your point of view. I am sick of debating this with you.


I hope the guy makes a full recovery.


I seriously doubt that the cop will be let off completley, but the facts are there.

a)The guy was identified as a supect in a robbery

b) THe guy fled when was called to stop

c) Innocent people dont flee police, the guy got hurt whilst being aprehended.

d)The officers fate will be decided by the appropriate authority (this may range from suspension from duty to ending up in front of a criminal court, depending on the laws in the area)

c)hopefully the guy makes a full recovery.

The end.


Can another ATOT member please help end this debate in an intellegant manner?

 

Red Irish

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Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Look, i have my point of view, you have your point of view. I am sick of debating this with you.

I can understand that.
I hope the guy makes a full recovery.

One of the few intelligent things you have said.


I seriously doubt that the cop will be let off completley, but the facts are there.

a)The guy was identified as a supect in a robbery

b) THe guy fled when was called to stop

c) Innocent people dont flee police, the guy got hurt whilst being aprehended.

No he wasn't apprehended he was assaulted and "hurt" is putting it rather too mildly

d)The officers fate will be decided by the appropriate authority (this may range from suspension from duty to ending up in front of a criminal court, depending on the laws in the area)

c)hopefully the guy makes a full recovery.

The end.


Can another ATOT member please help end this debate in an intellegant manner?

Don't worry, I'll leave you alone.

 

Sea Moose

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Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Look, i have my point of view, you have your point of view. I am sick of debating this with you.

I can understand that.
I hope the guy makes a full recovery.<-- i think everyone is thinking this

One of the few intelligent things you have said. <-- Read back over my posts this has been what i have been trying to say the whole time (I am sorry if my poor writing skills gave the wrong message


I seriously doubt that the cop will be let off completley, but the facts are there.

a)The guy was identified as a supect in a robbery

b) THe guy fled when was called to stop

c) Innocent people dont flee police, the guy got hurt whilst being aprehended.

No he wasn't apprehended he was assaulted and "hurt" is putting it rather too mildly <-- i think this is the point we will never agree on. one of us sees the same glass, half full or half empty

d)The officers fate will be decided by the appropriate authority (this may range from suspension from duty to ending up in front of a criminal court, depending on the laws in the area)

c)hopefully the guy makes a full recovery.

The end.


Can another ATOT member please help end this debate in an intellegant manner?

Don't worry, I'll leave you alone. <-- Debate is good and healthy its called democracy freedom of speech etc. I was hoping that someone that has been following our debate could draw up a good conclusion. Lol when i said i was sick of it, we were beginning to just repeat our points. In future debates i will try and make my points clearer. Many people have pointed out that my english sucks. I am trying to get better.

 

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
I'm generally supportive of law enforcement, but after seeing them in action, and it seems like more of this shit happens on the left coast, I'm beginning to see them as a community sponsored gang with little oversight, the advent of surveillance videos surfacing like this just confirms that position.

This.

I've known a number of people who became cops. I realize I'm generalizing here, but it seems that the job attracts underachievers with god complexes. I'm not saying that ALL cops fit that profile, but there's definitely a trend. Once they've gone through training, they're complexes get even worse. I've had several flat out admit that they have a complete disdain for the the general public because they're "weak" and need to be babysat.

It's a tough job (depending on where you serve), but the rampant abuse of power with no checks/balances is disgusting.

Regardless of whether that suspect was guilty, that cop used extreme, unwarranted force. At the very least he should be fired. Jail time should be an option.
 

Agentbolt

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Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
I'm generally supportive of law enforcement, but after seeing them in action, and it seems like more of this shit happens on the left coast, I'm beginning to see them as a community sponsored gang with little oversight, the advent of surveillance videos surfacing like this just confirms that position.

This.

I've known a number of people who became cops. I realize I'm generalizing here, but it seems that the job attracts underachievers with god complexes. I'm not saying that ALL cops fit that profile, but there's definitely a trend. Once they've gone through training, they're complexes get even worse. I've had several flat out admit that they have a complete disdain for the the general public because they're "weak" and need to be babysat.

It's a tough job (depending on where you serve), but the rampant abuse of power with no checks/balances is disgusting.

Regardless of whether that suspect was guilty, that cop used extreme, unwarranted force. At the very least he should be fired. Jail time should be an option.

Well think about it, you're slapping guns and "Do whatever you want" badges into the hands of mouth breathers and retards. People who couldn't even scrape together a bachelors degree but still want to feel big and important, where else are they going to go?

I strongly feel you could eliminate the vast majority of problems with cops by paying them a whole lot more and requiring some semblance of education for the job.
 

Venix

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Originally posted by: Sea Moose
c) Innocent people dont flee police, the guy got hurt whilst being aprehended.

You can repeat this idiotic bullshit as much as you want, but it's still wrong. Innocent people routinely flee and resist police, sometimes due to mistaken identity, sometimes just because it's a natural stress response.

In fact, the innocent are sometimes more likely to flee than the guilty, since an innocent man would naturally not expect that his assailant is a police officer. Logically assessing the situation requires first suppressing the natural fight-or-flight response, which is extremely difficult in a stressful situation.

Debate is good and healthy its called democracy freedom of speech etc. I was hoping that someone that has been following our debate could draw up a good conclusion. Lol when i said i was sick of it, we were beginning to just repeat our points. In future debates i will try and make my points clearer. Many people have pointed out that my english sucks. I am trying to get better.

Your entire position sucks, too. Combine that with your initial uncaring attitude toward the innocent victim and your repeated attacks on office workers, and you can't be surprised when people insult you. Act like an ignorant dipshit and you'll be treated like one.
 
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The question, at least in the civil action, will be whether the cop's actions were objectively reasonable in light of the circumstances. It's very unfortunate that this young man was so grievously hurt, but the fact that he was innocent doesn't necessarily mean that the cop behaved unreasonably. I do believe that video is pretty damning, though, in that it appears the amount of force used was disproportionate to what would have been required to detain the suspect. Very sad in any case.
 

SirStev0

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Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: skace
You are stupid because your spelling is revolting to read and your opinions are equally as ignorant. Your post about trying to insult office workers came off twice as ridiculous since a large part of the "police force" is an office style environment. I'm guessing you've never been inside a station before?

It doesn't matter whether the intent to harm a person is there when they wake up in the morning. The question is whether the intent to harm a person was there when they were chasing a fleeing subject. Was he thinking "I want to catch this guy" or was he thinking "I want to make this guy pay".

Now, why was the subject running? Does this area have a history of bad police officers? Or did he have a prior record? Or was he doing something illegal?



I have been in about 40 or so stations and the recruit training centre(as a contractor). I know the general layout and how the average station operates (in my area).I havent been in the massive hq building in the city, (that would have been awesome) The average stations have minimal admin staff, and the officers that are behind a desk are usually the high ranking officers. The guys that have to go out and deal with the scum are not often behind a desk. Police stations are a kind of sanctuary, man i thought cops were arses, growing up. Once you enter the inner sanctum you find out that they are all pretty nice people and some of them are hilarious.

I agree with the second part of your post.

They need to know the cops frame of mind before the take down. The officer will have his day in court and better informed people will make a decision about the officers future.

if you watch the news clip (somonehas the link for it further up the thread) You will see that it is mistaken identidy. 3 guys knocked over a corner store and the owner identified the guy as one of the culprits. The cops called out "Police stop!" And the guy turned and ran. The cop has chased after him and you see the result in the footage.

My opinion is that a) The guy was in the wrong place at the wrong time. b) He should have stopped when he was commanded to stop. c) Due to the guys injury, the footage will be investigated by the internal investigations unit, and they will either deal with or prosecute.



I am sorry about my spelling i am trying my best.

This sounds really familar. Wasn't there a troll who was banned a bit ago who used to claim to work closely with the military doing something of this sort?

Sounds like we got ourselves an Alt.
 

buck

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Originally posted by: SirStev0
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: skace
You are stupid because your spelling is revolting to read and your opinions are equally as ignorant. Your post about trying to insult office workers came off twice as ridiculous since a large part of the "police force" is an office style environment. I'm guessing you've never been inside a station before?

It doesn't matter whether the intent to harm a person is there when they wake up in the morning. The question is whether the intent to harm a person was there when they were chasing a fleeing subject. Was he thinking "I want to catch this guy" or was he thinking "I want to make this guy pay".

Now, why was the subject running? Does this area have a history of bad police officers? Or did he have a prior record? Or was he doing something illegal?



I have been in about 40 or so stations and the recruit training centre(as a contractor). I know the general layout and how the average station operates (in my area).I havent been in the massive hq building in the city, (that would have been awesome) The average stations have minimal admin staff, and the officers that are behind a desk are usually the high ranking officers. The guys that have to go out and deal with the scum are not often behind a desk. Police stations are a kind of sanctuary, man i thought cops were arses, growing up. Once you enter the inner sanctum you find out that they are all pretty nice people and some of them are hilarious.

I agree with the second part of your post.

They need to know the cops frame of mind before the take down. The officer will have his day in court and better informed people will make a decision about the officers future.

if you watch the news clip (somonehas the link for it further up the thread) You will see that it is mistaken identidy. 3 guys knocked over a corner store and the owner identified the guy as one of the culprits. The cops called out "Police stop!" And the guy turned and ran. The cop has chased after him and you see the result in the footage.

My opinion is that a) The guy was in the wrong place at the wrong time. b) He should have stopped when he was commanded to stop. c) Due to the guys injury, the footage will be investigated by the internal investigations unit, and they will either deal with or prosecute.



I am sorry about my spelling i am trying my best.

This sounds really familar. Wasn't there a troll who was banned a bit ago who used to claim to work closely with the military doing something of this sort?

Sounds like we got ourselves an Alt.


:thumbsup:
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
I'm generally supportive of law enforcement, but after seeing them in action, and it seems like more of this shit happens on the left coast, I'm beginning to see them as a community sponsored gang with little oversight, the advent of surveillance videos surfacing like this just confirms that position.

Or more likely you don't see all the countless arrests performed properly or without incident because it doesn't generate outrage. It doesn't make a good headline to see "cop takes down aggressive suspect using appropriate force" or "black cop beats white suspect."

yup. It's like the handful of pit bull attacks that hit the news and inspire all the pseudo rage and ignorance from the masses about the entire breed.
 

classy

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Originally posted by: gorcorps
A witness had incorrectly identified him as a suspect in an assault.

So the cop used excessive force, but the witness told the cop the wrong guy too. 2 wrongs don't make a right but IMO the cop doesn't deserve all the blame even though he's still a terrible cop.

Ahh he can tell that to the prison guards, because dude is so going to do a stretch for that.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: gorcorps
A witness had incorrectly identified him as a suspect in an assault.

So the cop used excessive force, but the witness told the cop the wrong guy too. 2 wrongs don't make a right but IMO the cop doesn't deserve all the blame even though he's still a terrible cop.

Ahh he can tell that to the prison guards, because dude is so going to do a stretch for that.

I doubt he does. i think he shoudl but i doubt it.