Raw Video: Police Slam Wrong Man Into a Wall

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Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
just out of curiosity, are you ever allowed to defend yourself from the police?

you're not allowed to defend yourself at all, that's what the police are for.

not only should the "cop" be fired, jailed and forfiet all valuables, but the police dept. should also get a financial reaming at very least.
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
just out of curiosity, are you ever allowed to defend yourself from the police?

Yes. When they are out of uniform and/or you have a reasonable reason to believe you are being attacked by somebody who isn't an officer.

but if an officer is charging you, such as this case.. no dice?

edit: granted there is no audio, so we don't know if the officer identified himself as police beforehand or not
 

Pliablemoose

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I'm generally supportive of law enforcement, but after seeing them in action, and it seems like more of this shit happens on the left coast, I'm beginning to see them as a community sponsored gang with little oversight, the advent of surveillance videos surfacing like this just confirms that position.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
I'm generally supportive of law enforcement, but after seeing them in action, and it seems like more of this shit happens on the left coast, I'm beginning to see them as a community sponsored gang with little oversight, the advent of surveillance videos surfacing like this just confirms that position.

Or more likely you don't see all the countless arrests performed properly or without incident because it doesn't generate outrage. It doesn't make a good headline to see "cop takes down aggressive suspect using appropriate force" or "black cop beats white suspect."
 

Phokus

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Nov 20, 1999
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
I'm generally supportive of law enforcement, but after seeing them in action, and it seems like more of this shit happens on the left coast, I'm beginning to see them as a community sponsored gang with little oversight, the advent of surveillance videos surfacing like this just confirms that position.

Or more likely you don't see all the countless arrests performed properly or without incident because it doesn't generate outrage. It doesn't make a good headline to see "cop takes down aggressive suspect using appropriate force" or "black cop beats white suspect."

Of course we also don't see those outrageous incidents that don't make it onto a videocamera

spidey07.txt
 

JS80

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Oct 24, 2005
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Originally posted by: WHAMPOM
Is America becoming Fascist? or just more? Try to remember a little of American History.

Wow, that UCSD education is really showing. Dropped out of sciences and took political science huh?
 

lxskllr

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Nov 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: lxskllr
Que the apologists in 3...2...1...

Que? Queue?

That's two minutes for boarding right there.

Duh! :^P

An alternate spelling of Quwê, an Assyrian vassal state or province at various times from the 9th century BC to shortly after the death of Ashurbanipal around 627 BCE in the lowlands of eastern Cilicia

 

gorcorps

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Jul 18, 2004
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A witness had incorrectly identified him as a suspect in an assault.

So the cop used excessive force, but the witness told the cop the wrong guy too. 2 wrongs don't make a right but IMO the cop doesn't deserve all the blame even though he's still a terrible cop.
 

Flipped Gazelle

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Originally posted by: gorcorps
A witness had incorrectly identified him as a suspect in an assault.

So the cop used excessive force, but the witness told the cop the wrong guy too. 2 wrongs don't make a right but IMO the cop doesn't deserve all the blame even though he's still a terrible cop.

And law enforcement officials will tell you that witnesses are notoriously unreliable. So for the cop to put enough credence in the "witness" that he would savagely attack the fellow like that is unconscionable.
 

NFS4

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Oct 9, 1999
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That hurt me just to watch his head hit and then "stick" just for a moment and slide down. Ugh :(
 

PlasmaBomb

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Nov 19, 2004
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Fuck.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy excessive. Officer is a retard.

A full force shove from a running start is *highly* likely to injure someone regardless of the situation.

If the dude had instinctively put out his arm he could easily have ended up with a broken wrist or arm. If he didn't have time to do that (which looked to be the case) his head could have smacked the ground which could have knocked him out, or worse cause a bleed/clot.

When they are standing beside a wall it is doubly retarded.

The officer is fucking lucky he didn't break the dudes neck :|
 

DAGTA

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Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Fuck.

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyy excessive. Officer is a retard.

A full force shove from a running start is *highly* likely to injure someone regardless of the situation.

If the dude had instinctively put out his arm he could easily have ended up with a broken wrist or arm. If he didn't have time to do that (which looked to be the case) his head could have smacked the ground which could have knocked him out, or worse cause a bleed/clot.

When they are standing beside a wall it is doubly retarded.

The officer is fucking lucky he didn't break the dudes neck :|

The guy is in a coma. There's a good chance he has permanent damage and may even die.
 
Oct 27, 2007
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Well shockingly the Sheriff's Office is defending this neaderthal. Text.

The actions of a sheriff's deputy who slammed a mistakenly identified man into a wall during a May 10 foot chase in Belltown ? inflicting life-threatening injuries ? do not appear to be criminal, the King County Sheriff's Office said Thursday.

A lawyer for the man's family immediately questioned the finding, saying the deputy dealt a "bone-crushing" hit that has left Christopher Harris, a 29-year-old restaurant worker, in critical condition in a coma.

Harris, of Edmonds, suffered severe head injuries when he was knocked into the outside wall of a Belltown theater at the end of the brief chase after he was mistakenly tied to an assault.

"We look at this as a tragic accident; nothing more than that," sheriff's spokesman Sgt. John Urquhart said at a sidewalk news briefing where the chase began.

I don't know about you guys, but I didn't see a "tragic accident" in that video. I saw an assault leaving an innocent man close to dead.
 

Acanthus

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Aug 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Well shockingly the Sheriff's Office is defending this neaderthal. Text.

The actions of a sheriff's deputy who slammed a mistakenly identified man into a wall during a May 10 foot chase in Belltown ? inflicting life-threatening injuries ? do not appear to be criminal, the King County Sheriff's Office said Thursday.

A lawyer for the man's family immediately questioned the finding, saying the deputy dealt a "bone-crushing" hit that has left Christopher Harris, a 29-year-old restaurant worker, in critical condition in a coma.

Harris, of Edmonds, suffered severe head injuries when he was knocked into the outside wall of a Belltown theater at the end of the brief chase after he was mistakenly tied to an assault.

"We look at this as a tragic accident; nothing more than that," sheriff's spokesman Sgt. John Urquhart said at a sidewalk news briefing where the chase began.

I don't know about you guys, but I didn't see a "tragic accident" in that video. I saw an assault leaving an innocent man close to dead.

Well if history says anything, covering it up is pretty much the worst thing you can do.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
just out of curiosity, are you ever allowed to defend yourself from the police?

you're not allowed to defend yourself at all, that's what the police are for.

not only should the "cop" be fired, jailed and forfiet all valuables, but the police dept. should also get a financial reaming at very least.

You can defend yourself in a wrongful arrest. It's not wise though.

If this 'perp' was indeed possibly armed and dangerous the action may have been warranted...I doubt the cop intended to put him in a coma.

However the cop is liable as well as the asshat that said he was the 'triggerman'...

This was a perfect example of when a taser would have been the proper move.
 

holden j caufield

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Dec 30, 1999
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do cops ever get sued in civil court. It's a tough job but this seems to happen too much. It looks like a freeroll for them to do anything. The city or dept gets sued and the citizens pick up the bill. There doesn't appear to be too much of a deterent.
 

brxndxn

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Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
just out of curiosity, are you ever allowed to defend yourself from the police?

you're not allowed to defend yourself at all, that's what the police are for.

not only should the "cop" be fired, jailed and forfiet all valuables, but the police dept. should also get a financial reaming at very least.

You can defend yourself in a wrongful arrest. It's not wise though.

If this 'perp' was indeed possibly armed and dangerous the action may have been warranted...I doubt the cop intended to put him in a coma.

However the cop is liable as well as the asshat that said he was the 'triggerman'...

This was a perfect example of when a taser would have been the proper move.

NO.. a fucking taser isn't the proper move either..

A taser or any weapon for that matter should only be used when a suspect is not cooperating. From this video, it looks as if the suspect only tried to 'brace himself' before the much larger police officer rammed right into him..

This is sick.. thank goodness for surveillance videos.. they go both ways..
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: gorcorps
A witness had incorrectly identified him as a suspect in an assault.

So the cop used excessive force, but the witness told the cop the wrong guy too. 2 wrongs don't make a right but IMO the cop doesn't deserve all the blame even though he's still a terrible cop.

wrong. the cop deserve's 100% of the blame. it is nto proper procedure to do what he did.

not a suprise the police force is backing the cop. they always do no matter what.
 

Baked

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Dec 28, 2004
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I blame MMA and its retarded CEO for promoting violence and disrespect towards females.
 

Perknose

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In my very first week living in LA back in the day there was a news article detailing how cops had burst into the wrong apartment, into a guy's bedroom @ 3am, and the sleeping guy, naturally, had risen up in bed (totally unarmed) so they shot him to death.

They had the wrong fucking address.

The officers involved got off completely.

I thought, hmmmm, welcome to LA.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: brxndxn
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: The Boston Dangler
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
just out of curiosity, are you ever allowed to defend yourself from the police?

you're not allowed to defend yourself at all, that's what the police are for.

not only should the "cop" be fired, jailed and forfiet all valuables, but the police dept. should also get a financial reaming at very least.

You can defend yourself in a wrongful arrest. It's not wise though.

If this 'perp' was indeed possibly armed and dangerous the action may have been warranted...I doubt the cop intended to put him in a coma.

However the cop is liable as well as the asshat that said he was the 'triggerman'...

This was a perfect example of when a taser would have been the proper move.

NO.. a fucking taser isn't the proper move either..

A taser or any weapon for that matter should only be used when a suspect is not cooperating. From this video, it looks as if the suspect only tried to 'brace himself' before the much larger police officer rammed right into him..

This is sick.. thank goodness for surveillance videos.. they go both ways..

The police were lied too. Should this guy really have been armed and dangerous do you think "Y0 DAWG I AM GONNA ARREST J00!" would have been smart?

I don't agree with todays law's but I am wlling to bet you are among those that created them out of FEAR.

 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: alkemystThe police were lied too. Should this guy really have been armed and dangerous do you think "Y0 DAWG I AM GONNA ARREST J00!" would have been smart?

I don't agree with todays law's but I am wlling to bet you are among those that created them out of FEAR.

how about doing it right? not takeing the word of a someone to slame him into the ground.


there is NO reason for the cop to do it how he did.