What I think is amusing/sad is the people that come out of the woodwork to attack torpid because he doesn't like the bracelets. LA is a tremendous athlete and I have nothing but respect for him....but those bracelets are rididculous IMO.
Good friends? WTF? I've had 3 CLOSE RELATIVES die from it. I would think you would be more likely to be annoyed by people who don't know crap about cancer, apparently not. Gotta love the phrase wearing yellow. Sums up my point pretty well.
Well it's not actually lance himself I'm sick of. I'm sick of hearing about him and I'm sick of people wearing the bracelets. Perhaps I should have made that a little clear for people who can't figure it out immediately from my OP. I did not in fact apply them to lance or the whole program. The program is quite brilliant, it just has gotten out of control.
You and torpid are missing the point. The bracelets were/are a means of raising awareness about the program. They have done just that. As Descartes eloquently pointed out, the success of the program has elevated the bracelets beyond their original intent. The people who wear them as some kind of fashion statement are, in fact, idiots, but this in no way diminishes the overall value of the Livestrong.org program itself.
Not really Fausto. I'm just not good at saying what I mean right after I wake up (rolled out of bed about 10 minutes ago).
Cancer research is good. I support that. What I don't support are trendy fashionable idjits who think that wearing some goofy little bracelet somehow validates their existence. Cancer touches many peoples lives though, I'm not sure how much awereness needed to be raised.
SP33Demon
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This is a perfect example. Modeps has assigned a personal value to the bracelet, to him they mean a lot. To Torpid, they are a stupid marketing ploy, hence he thinks they're stupid. It seems Torpid cannot respect, nor comprehend that these bracelets hold a personal value to someone. Therein lies the problem.
I don't see how raising money and providing hope for cancer patients/survivors is a bad thing in any way shape or form. As for the trendoids, I think I've made it clear that I consider them idiots.
How does it not? If someone wears a bracelet and has no idea why it even exists, doesn't that diminish the program? By all accounts, the program is a success. NO ONE IS DISPUTING THAT. I put it in caps for you so you could get that part. No one is disputing that teletubbies are a success either.
So what's your problem then? Their money helps just as much as people who truly care about the research. Many of these people would have never given anything to a charity without the bands becoming trendy. So how is this anything to complain about
?People wear them as a fashion statement-I think thats the OP's point. I'm really tired of seeing those and the ribbons on people's cars. But remember guys:
John Kerry wore a yellow bracelelt, so he is cool.
EDIT: must say I am bashing poseurs trying to be cool since they saw a episode of the OC and saw a yellow bracelet.
Support the cause though
John Kerry wore a yellow bracelelt, so he is cool.
EDIT: must say I am bashing poseurs trying to be cool since they saw a episode of the OC and saw a yellow bracelet.
Support the cause though
Okay, explain to me how the clueless trend-followers take money and/or hope away from the researchers and cancer patients......I'm all ears. :roll:
batmang
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well think of it this way. how many peolpe do you see with the bracelet, and how many times do you see yourself saying this in your head:
" hey, its that yellow bracelet, that means they have donated to charity, the lance armstrong thing "
then you see your own wrist and realize you've made no contribution,... and then you donate.
its just a cycle to help people donate, stop your lameass bitching.
its for a good cause... it helps people donate, go flush your face in a toilet.
" hey, its that yellow bracelet, that means they have donated to charity, the lance armstrong thing "
then you see your own wrist and realize you've made no contribution,... and then you donate.
its just a cycle to help people donate, stop your lameass bitching.
its for a good cause... it helps people donate, go flush your face in a toilet.
Don't put words in my mouth, please. It is exactly because of the fact that the bracelets can and should hold personal value to someone that I am sick of them - because too many people wear them who have no clue and are not even all that interested in the cause. It's for that reason that I would never consider wearing one despite the fact that it might actually symbolize something to me - I don't feel like it would mean anything anymore. It's the same thing with the stupid ribbons, which have now grown into huge ribbons that are placed on the back of a car. How many people actually support our troops in any way beyond putting a ribbon on their car?
batmang
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but isnt the point, to get one of the bracelets or magnets, that you have to donate?
if it turns into a fashion thing, so WHAT!? at least people are donating, and the idiots who normally do not donate, ARE donating cause they want to fit in with the bracelet or car magnet.
its a good way of marketing a donation, and its working reallllllly well from what i cant see.
if it turns into a fashion thing, so WHAT!? at least people are donating, and the idiots who normally do not donate, ARE donating cause they want to fit in with the bracelet or car magnet.
its a good way of marketing a donation, and its working reallllllly well from what i cant see.
I'm sure you can think of a way, if you really are interested, which you are not. The bracelets generate marginal profit. If as you said the intent was to raise awareness of the program, in order to get more donations and money, then the trendiness of it is interfering with this, because people aren't being made aware. If you see 10 people with a bracelet and 9 don't know crap about it in any way that would make you likely to donate, I'd say that's worse than if 1 person wears it out of 10 and they know about the organization and actually are interested in getting you involved.
Phoenix86
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If one person donates to the fund because it's trendy, the fund still benefits.
People wearing yellow, or other trendy things doesn't hurt me, perhaps that's your problem Torpid.
Your upset because people follow a trend which benefits cancer research.... Why? Who cares what other people think about fashion, and how does that accect you? It doesn't now please STFU. No one cares how trendy it becomes because it benefits CHARITY.
People wearing yellow, or other trendy things doesn't hurt me, perhaps that's your problem Torpid.
Your upset because people follow a trend which benefits cancer research.... Why? Who cares what other people think about fashion, and how does that accect you? It doesn't now please STFU. No one cares how trendy it becomes because it benefits CHARITY.
SP33Demon
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So in essence, your real rant should have been: "I hate trendy posers who disrespect the real cause the ribbons represent." Can you honestly tell someone who has been affected personally, such as yourself, or like Modeps that he's stupid b/c he/she chooses to wear a ribbon as an expression of their grief? When they, in fact, are not posers and wear the bands for the cause they are supposed to represent? I doubt it.
1) Each bracelet = $1 for Livestrong. It has raised millions. They actually ended up making even more bracelets as the first batch sold out.
2) Generalizing based on people you see has no bearing on the program as a whole, sorry. Please try again.
moshquerade
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and those 3 CLOSE RELATIVES are rolling over in their graves hearing you bitch about something that is making money for cancer research.
for the record, my father died of cancer 2 1/2 yrs ago. viva la LiveStrong Bracelets! they are making money, and only with money are we gonna find a cure.
The only problem I have with the yellow bracelets is if the bearers do not know what they are wearing them for. If they wear it specifically because they support cancer research, then props to them. If they wear it for fashion, they need to get with the program.
Im glad that sports figures like Lance Armstrong are willing to fund important research like this. Since people do look up to him (and other sports figures), this is an excellent way to draw in the community to also help fund research that they may not have known about otherwise.
Im glad that sports figures like Lance Armstrong are willing to fund important research like this. Since people do look up to him (and other sports figures), this is an excellent way to draw in the community to also help fund research that they may not have known about otherwise.
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