Gstanfor, I'm going to make some cliff notes for you here. You seem to think that redbox and I need to be kicked out of the thread just because we don't agree with you. Let's examine the core claims that have been thrown and see who is overreacting and acting ridiculous.
[*] keysplayer2003 shared an opinion that
perhaps Nvidia is withholding from releasing good drivers until the R600.
[*] You quickly nodded with agreement, saying that:
...the last few driver releases haven't resolved many bugs present in most of them - I think nvidia is hoarding its driver improvements to deliver them as one big package.
[*] jim1976, redbox, thilan29, and myself thought that if that was indeed their
plan then it wasn't a very consumer-friendly business practice.
[*] I then explained how such a scenario could indeed happen, but felt that they *should* first fix the many problems that are existent throughout the newest Nvidia products. (i.e. Vista/XP-Pro 64-bit support, 680i+G80 SLI sound issues, basic rendering problems, faulty resistors, etc.)
[*] You didn't like the fact that people think certain problems should be fixed and immediately began implying that XP-Pro 64-bit shouldn't be supported:
Well, hardly anyone supports XP-Pro 64-bit anyway...The 64 bit extension may as well not even exist...For 99.99% of comsumers XP-Pro 64 bit is irrelevant and that isn't about to change. I'd much rather nvidia focus on XP 32 bit and DX9 at the moment, since thats what consumers have and use. The future will look after itself.
[*] I claimed that just because it is a minority for gamers doesn't mean it isn't a problem. I referenced the fact that SLI and G80's themselves aren't exactly "popular" and if such products had zero support Nvidia would be working around the clock to fix that.
[*] Next, I gave
a real example as to what potential problems can occur with one utilizing the best of the market right now. I gave a link to
this thread to show that there are indeed problems even on operating systems that are supported such as XP-Pro 32-bit.
*Recap*
--You yourself claimed earlier that there are:
...bugs present in most of them - I think nvidia is hoarding its driver improvements to deliver them as one big package.
This is why I said I agreed with you, "they should fix things with XP-Pro 32-bit. A lot of things
"
[*] Your reply was "Fanatic." You also wanted to talk about other unrelated threads.
[*] I then asked, what exactly your argument was, since there wasn't any reason I could tell as to why you were disagreeing with me. Afterall,
you said:
...the last few driver releases haven't resolved many bugs present in most of them - I think nvidia is hoarding its driver improvements to deliver them as one big package.
[*] You don't answer and claim that the user experiencing the issues wasn't utilizing his hardware correctly. (i.e. not using both power connectors on each card)
[*] I took that as a valid reason for the instability the user was experiencing, yet didn't see how using both power connectors on each card would fix the sound symptoms he was also having.
[*] You returned saying that redbox, thilan29, and I tried to:
...crucify nvidia over lack of an XP-Pro 64 driver.
You also said that I implied
everyone using G80 SLI on the 680i chipset is experiencing problems.
And you claimed that redbox and I should:
...shut the f*ck up and get out of a thread that doesn't concern you (you don't currently own anything nvidia).
[*] redbox and myself replied to this uneducated ramble with our latest Nvidia purchases (all outweighing ATi ones) and how we both still use one of their popular chipsets (the nF4).
[*] Meanwhile, you also say that as far as you know, patching Double Agent and turning off AA should fix most of the problems described by jim1976 and thilan29, even though the patch was specifically intended to let users force AA.
*Recap*
...The Clown in your thread is merely suffering from a good dose of PEBKAC...The clueless dweeb that you linked to didn't plug both PCi-e power connectors in like theprodigalrebel pointed out on page 2 of the thread... Most experienced users have had no trouble with G80 & 680i - the posts you see on the nvidia forums are 99.99% clueless newb with no clue how to properly build a highend system.
Someone forgetting to use both power connectors on the G80 is PEBKAC but you recommending to patch a game then disable all of the options the patch brought is just plain idiocy.
[*] You then backpedal and contradict your original statement of:
...the last few driver releases haven't resolved many bugs present in most of them
to
...nvidia's current drivers seem fine for the most part to me.
[*] Next, you tell redbox that:
99% of other GF8 SLI owners DON't share his [malfunctioning sound] experience!
only to have him
provide a link proving that even knowledgeable users experience it.
He even linked an
XtremeSystems thread that encompasses several other users' identical problems.
[*] After he proves you wrong, you continue your immaturity by saying:
But don't let that stop you from trolling like the fuckwitted fantic you are, will you?
[*] Your primary arguement for me which I asked for several pages ago is:
You are nothing but scum Josh. No better than whover is busily impersonating ChrisRay...You ought to go work for ATi's PR team if you don't already - you, huddy and baumann would make a great team...
I'm still in awe at your intelligence and reading comprehension. Really, it has sooo much to do with Nvidia's needed driver improvments and possible chipset bios revisions.....
[*] You still keep your eyes and ears closed to redbox's links and say:
There aren't any real problems with SLI'd GeForce 8's (at least not amongst those who know how to properly build a machine).
Because afterall, they're just
fake problems and
fake pictures, right?
Other sensible people who aren't normally in your "fanatic" list (nitromullet) are even realizing that Nvidia's 680i+G80SLI systems are really only being talked about in trouble shooting forums or Nvidia's PR pages. Not to mention your only source of evidence for someone having a correctly-functioning 680i+G80SLI is The Inquirer.
[*] You continue to ramble about how redbox and I should be removed from this thread for asking legit questions about your skewed logic.
[*] When other posters realize your ineptitude, you dig up some completely retarded proctology analogy that only you bothered to remember thinking it will do damage.
Drop your Ad-Hominem side-steps and answer me what specifically was so wrong in saying that Nvidia needs to improve on a few things, namely drivers.