Racism in ATOT

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Jeff7181

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What you perceive as a hatred of black people is probably more of a hatred of the hip-hop culture. Many people feel that the hip-hop culture promotes sexism, violence, drug use, and further mutilation of the English language. It's simply a coincidence that a large portion of blacks are part of the hip-hop culture, but there are also whites such as Eminem who I hate just as much as 50 Cent.
 

sisq0kidd

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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
What you perceive as a hatred of black people is probably more of a hatred of the hip-hop culture. Many people feel that the hip-hop culture promotes sexism, violence, drug use, and further mutilation of the English language. It's simply a coincidence that a large portion of blacks are part of the hip-hop culture, but there are also whites such as Eminem who I hate just as much as 50 Cent.

But ATOT embraces rock and roll, which perpetuates the same sexism, violence, drug use etc...
 

imported_KirbsAw

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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
What you perceive as a hatred of black people is probably more of a hatred of the hip-hop culture. Many people feel that the hip-hop culture promotes sexism, violence, drug use, and further mutilation of the English language. It's simply a coincidence that a large portion of blacks are part of the hip-hop culture, but there are also whites such as Eminem who I hate just as much as 50 Cent.

I dont like to think of hip hop culture as black culture, its so commercial and manufactured. I guess everything is like that though.
 

rh71

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I know of a couple members who are purely pro-whitey (and everyone else gets underhanded comments)... you can tell in their responses. I wouldn't say this is the case for a lot of AT though.
 

brigden

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Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
What you perceive as a hatred of black people is probably more of a hatred of the hip-hop culture. Many people feel that the hip-hop culture promotes sexism, violence, drug use, and further mutilation of the English language. It's simply a coincidence that a large portion of blacks are part of the hip-hop culture, but there are also whites such as Eminem who I hate just as much as 50 Cent.

But ATOT embraces rock and roll, which perpetuates the same sexism, violence, drug use etc...

Ooh. He's got a point there.
 
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fvck the canucks!
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eigen

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"There is no racial bigotry here. I do not look down on n!ggers, k!kes, wops or greasers. Here you are all equally worthless."--Gunnery Sergeant Hartman
 

Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
What you perceive as a hatred of black people is probably more of a hatred of the hip-hop culture. Many people feel that the hip-hop culture promotes sexism, violence, drug use, and further mutilation of the English language. It's simply a coincidence that a large portion of blacks are part of the hip-hop culture, but there are also whites such as Eminem who I hate just as much as 50 Cent.

But ATOT embraces rock and roll, which perpetuates the same sexism, violence, drug use etc...

And athiesm, devil worship, blah blah blah... you have a point. But "drugs, sex, and rock and roll" has been changed to "drugs, sex, and rap" because hip-hop is the current fad. Maybe in 20 or 30 years the country music stars will be the downfall of society. ;)
 

HamburgerBoy

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Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
But ATOT embraces rock and roll, which perpetuates the same sexism, violence, drug use etc...

Maybe the more Satanic music does, but Iron Maiden for example is pretty clean compared to alot of other music.
 

tweakmm

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Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Originally posted by: Chraticn
If you mean that we echo stereotypes such as "bling-bling" often, it's because some of those stereotypes are (for the most part) true. Others may not be, however.

Perfect example of what I am talking about...
Are you going to sit there and say that most stereotypes are wrong for most of the population? Stereotypes don't just come out of nowhere, they have a large basis in real life. While it's certainly not fair to judge someone based on stereotypes, for pure statistical purposes one can assume that the majority of each race adheres to their respective stereotype. You can call me racist if you want(against all races because I think stereotypes are about as accurate for all races) but at least I'm not lying to myself about what I observe each and every day.
 

Yossarian

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omg Omarosa finally registered here!!! the pot has called the kettle BLACK and Jesse Jackson is pissed.
 

UsandThem

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Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
I was wondering why people here in ATOT are so racist... People here are so anti-johnny cochran, anti-jesse jackson... just anti-black period... any thread with any celebrity black person soon becomes an instant kkk-fest... the "bling-bling" comments ensue and the thread goes down the crapper... yeah yeah i'm not perfect myself... From an outsider's POV, you all are overtly racist whether you think so or not... It seems as if the majority here are old, lonely white men who hate life/minorities/women/anything non-computer related...

/rant

Just because you hate the @ssholes of any particular race does not make you racist.

 

CarlKillerMiller

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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Originally posted by: Chraticn
If you mean that we echo stereotypes such as "bling-bling" often, it's because some of those stereotypes are (for the most part) true. Others may not be, however.

Perfect example of what I am talking about...
Are you going to sit there and say that most stereotypes are wrong for most of the population? Stereotypes don't just come out of nowhere, they have a large basis in real life. While it's certainly not fair to judge someone based on stereotypes, for pure statistical purposes one can assume that the majority of each race adheres to their respective stereotype. You can call me racist if you want(against all races because I think stereotypes apply are about as accurate for all races) but at least I'm not lying to myself.

This is very true. It's not like someone woke up one day and said "Hey! Oriental people have a hard time driving!" or "Hey! Black people love fried chicken and grape kool-aid!" or "Hey! White people are rich!"

These stereotypes are based in reality.
 

sisq0kidd

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Originally posted by: tweakmm
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Originally posted by: Chraticn
If you mean that we echo stereotypes such as "bling-bling" often, it's because some of those stereotypes are (for the most part) true. Others may not be, however.

Perfect example of what I am talking about...
Are you going to sit there and say that most stereotypes are wrong for most of the population? Stereotypes don't just come out of nowhere, they have a large basis in real life. While it's certainly not fair to judge someone based on stereotypes, for pure statistical purposes one can assume that the majority of each race adheres to their respective stereotype. You can call me racist if you want(against all races because I think stereotypes apply are about as accurate for all races) but at least I'm not lying to myself about what I observe each and every day.

Stereotypically speaking, you are a racist then...
 

Jeff7181

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People are just oversensative about racism. If I hate you, and you're black, why does it HAVE to be a race issue? Maybe I just don't like you... maybe a lot of people don't like you... maybe I'm an asshole and hate everyone... and maybe I am racist. But why is it always assumed that if race is a possibility, it must be the ONLY possibility?
 

erikistired

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Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
I was wondering why people here in ATOT are so racist... People here are so anti-johnny cochran, anti-jesse jackson... just anti-black period... any thread with any celebrity black person soon becomes an instant kkk-fest... the "bling-bling" comments ensue and the thread goes down the crapper... yeah yeah i'm not perfect myself... From an outsider's POV, you all are overtly racist whether you think so or not... It seems as if the majority here are old, lonely white men who hate life/minorities/women/anything non-computer related...

/rant

somehow i doubt being anti-jackson/cochran has anything to do with race.