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Should Trump be Impeached?


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killster1

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Holy sh*t you're dumb as Fu*k.

Here's the formula I used to solve the mystery...

You don't watch news
You were homeless for a while
But here's the biggest most obvious clue... Every thing you say, every thought you express is just stupid. <--- I can leave all other clues out of the equation and that last one gives you away EVERY time.

Seriously dude, you're dumb.
wow its you again!! thanks for your name calling sounds like you are one of the ones on welfare and worried about everyone else!!! You the same person that thought yelling at someone abusing a child did something as apposed to reporting that person and helping them. Funny you just say what i express is stupid. :) :) go back to the welfare line and yell at some more people ;) your words are wasted with me.

Why doesnt someone just answer and say what he did wrong and the evidence? i love how everyone just dislikes him and says hes a liar.. My favorite lie was from BUSH when he said "READ MY LIPS NO MORE NEW TAXES!@!!!" hahahahaha they all lie non-stop but because you dont like trump well lets impeach for lies!!! :)
 

zinfamous

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OK dumbass, show me in the Constitution where a vote for a nominee is required over a certain time span? You can't and you won't. Nice lie though.

lol. not even trying. Dude, there are grenades that need tossing at innocent children. Why aren't you manning your post? Freedom needs you!
 

Younigue

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No, but i sure as hell know more than you, which was the basis for my question in the first place. It's not my fault you're so damn ignorant.
You can not still feel smart AND support Trump in anything. Those things cancel each other out.

You're such an depraved moron. You're a bad person taj. There's nothing good in you.
 

bermont33

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Sure past Presidents have lied. But do you not agree that Trump has taken it to a new extreme? If we want our government to improve we have to take a stand and demand a higher ethics from our officials. If we allow the argument 'others have done it too' we are just giving license for the corruption to continue and to just keep getting worse. Every time we excuse a new act we have let the bar slide a little lower and then we can use that argument to excuse a even lower bar next time. At some point we have to say enough is enough.

I'm perfectly okay with saying that if a President lies to the American people he is taking the risk that he will be impeached for it.
I'm perfectly okay with saying that yes others have gotten away with it, but not any more. That starting today we will no longer stand for this.
I'm perfectly okay with expecting improvement from our government and not being resigned to it getting worse.
Never has been and never will be a president who doesn't lie. Thats politics. The goverment as a whole is too far corrupted, and there is no end in sight. We the people are the fools that let them play these games on are dime and time.

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Younigue

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wow its you again!! thanks for your name calling sounds like you are one of the ones on welfare and worried about everyone else!!! You the same person that thought yelling at someone abusing a child did something as apposed to reporting that person and helping them. Funny you just say what i express is stupid. :) :) go back to the welfare line and yell at some more people ;) your words are wasted with me.

Why doesnt someone just answer and say what he did wrong and the evidence? i love how everyone just dislikes him and says hes a liar.. My favorite lie was from BUSH when he said "READ MY LIPS NO MORE NEW TAXES!@!!!" hahahahaha they all lie non-stop but because you dont like trump well lets impeach for lies!!! :)
Sure, we just don't like Trump. The poor little fella. It's a good thing he has a hoard of fu*king morons at his back.

So... You responded to me, my words weren't that wasted on you. <-- do you even understand what I mean by that? Well, it certainly has nothing to do with you being smart.

I'm for welfare but I personally would be too embarrassed to use it. My family used food stamps for 3 months when my mother was laid off for 3 months from the Shoe Shop and as a family we were mortified. My mother cried every time she had to use that book of stamps. Every time. It broke my heart for her.

So as for the woman I yelled at, she didn't physically abuse her child. I felt she was mentally abusing her child and I spoke up. I HOPE it resonated with her. I HOPE she changed her ways but no, I did not report her. I'm ok with it. How about you?

Any way, you're a disease and a traitor and stupid as shit. As for what your personal life is? I don't care. You're saddled with being stupid regardless of what your life looks like on the outside you are scum on the inside. It's a heavy load ya got there little guy.
 

umbrella39

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Hell no! He will be re-elected That's for sure We might put him in for a third term just too piss all you scatterbrains off

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How many more sock puppets do you think it will take before your Mom issues you a blue ribbon for all the new friends you have...
 

compcons

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This o e I
Hell no! He will be re-elected That's for sure We might put him in for a third term just too piss all you scatterbrains off

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Concerned troll or alt-account? 2 whole posts since yesterday. Is AT Politics becoming famous or are the die-hard posters just feeling desperate?

That said, I am not holding my breath for impeachment. As much as Trump is clearly not fit to be president, he is just a distraction and a useful tool for the GOP to roll back protections for the environment, finance, and workers. We should still be up in arms about the tax break for the 1%/corporations and the inevitable roll-back of financial oversight. I have a feeling that they are queuing up all sorts of legislation in case they keep power after the mid-terms. While we bitch about dumb-ass-in-chief, they are cooking up the next financial crisis and ways to entrench themselves further.

Hell, the GOP has their scapegoat when the next crisis comes along. He is their useful idiot. We have months and we are distracted from replacing them because trumpannigans. Things look good for finding a whole lot more against that moron but it is irrelevant until after the mid-terms. Mueller is building an army of flippers which will continue to grow. I think they will eventually find something truly catastrophic that 70% of all Americans will find to be "too much". Even then, we still have a party hell bent on taking care of themselves and not the country. Even if Trump goes away, we get Pence? Even if we had a Dem President, we would have Obama's second term with a whole lots obstruction.

America has a one track mind at best, and we are worried about the wrong shit right now. Anti-trump is not going to win the mid terms. The focus needs to be on removing as much of the GOP as possible from congress and not on Trump.

Enjoy a few moments reflecting on how much more they will find on Trump and then move on.

WE.HAVE.TWO MONTHS.
 

brycejones

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Never has been and never will be a president who doesn't lie. Thats politics. The goverment as a whole is too far corrupted, and there is no end in sight. We the people are the fools that let them play these games on are dime and time.

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Oh cool another alt. Why are conservatives such cowards? If you are to afraid to own your own words that is a sign that even you know you are full of shit. Its time to change and stop being a coward.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Oh cool another alt. Why are conservatives such cowards? If you are to afraid to own your own words that is a sign that even you know you are full of shit. Its time to change and stop being a coward.

It could be an apolitical troll who goes to the alt-right sites too. Sometimes people troll without a cause. Just a possibility.
 

killster1

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Sure, we just don't like Trump. The poor little fella. It's a good thing he has a hoard of fu*king morons at his back.

So... You responded to me, my words weren't that wasted on you. <-- do you even understand what I mean by that? Well, it certainly has nothing to do with you being smart.

I'm for welfare but I personally would be too embarrassed to use it. My family used food stamps for 3 months when my mother was laid off for 3 months from the Shoe Shop and as a family we were mortified. My mother cried every time she had to use that book of stamps. Every time. It broke my heart for her.

So as for the woman I yelled at, she didn't physically abuse her child. I felt she was mentally abusing her child and I spoke up. I HOPE it resonated with her. I HOPE she changed her ways but no, I did not report her. I'm ok with it. How about you?

Any way, you're a disease and a traitor and stupid as shit. As for what your personal life is? I don't care. You're saddled with being stupid regardless of what your life looks like on the outside you are scum on the inside. It's a heavy load ya got there little guy.



YOu say so much but the question really was what did trump do and what evidence is there? :) you just go off on tangents always patting your self on the back, your opinion is the only one that matters right? and im a traitor because i just ask what he did wrong? sorry there wasn't a memo sent out to me i missed it, Im sure he has lots of gray area activity being a businessman and prez, at least he is not going for a new oil business right? heh so lets just focus on what was done and how to prove it show to the citizens to make a change. If i dont know about something and you cant tell me and just attack me how does that help me know? i only know that you dont want to focus on the topic and attack anyone who asks a question :)
 
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fskimospy

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YOu say so much but the question really was what did trump do and what evidence is there? :) you just go off on tangents always patting your self on the back, your opinion is the only one that matters right? and im a traitor because i just ask what he did wrong? sorry there wasn't a memo sent out to me i missed it, Im sure he has lots of gray area activity being a businessman and prez, at least he is not going for a new oil business right? heh so lets just focus on what was done and how to prove it show to the citizens to make a change. If i dont know about something and you cant tell me and just attack me how does that help me know? i only know that you dont want to focus on the topic and attack anyone who asks a question :)

His personal lawyer has presented to the court in a sworn statement that Trump ordered him to commit multiple felonies on his behalf. The CFO of his company has been granted immunity in order to provide information on these felonies. You only get immunity if you can incriminate someone bigger than yourself so that’s very likely to be Trump.

It is highly likely that if Trump were not currently the president he would be under indictment. That’s pretty bad, no? Is that the sort of person we should lower our standards to?
 

HomerJS

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Fu*king idiot! Of course violence isn't ok but fighting racism/white supremacy is absolutely necessary!
He would call the Allies during WW2 fascists as well. After all they did commit violence against Nazis
 

killster1

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His personal lawyer has presented to the court in a sworn statement that Trump ordered him to commit multiple felonies on his behalf. The CFO of his company has been granted immunity in order to provide information on these felonies. You only get immunity if you can incriminate someone bigger than yourself so that’s very likely to be Trump.

It is highly likely that if Trump were not currently the president he would be under indictment. That’s pretty bad, no? Is that the sort of person we should lower our standards to?


Ok Ok Yes SOUNDS bad.. but ummm what are the facts? he said she said so far? what was the felonies? Seems like people have lawyers do things with out asking them so its impossible to get in trouble right. then the lawyer says Hey hey i did really bad things for you remember!?

So whats the proof?
 
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Josephus312

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Ok Ok Yes SOUNDS bad.. but ummm what are the facts? he said she said so far? what was the felonies? Seems like people have lawyers do things with out asking them so its impossible to get in trouble right. then the lawyer says Hey hey i did really bad things for you remember!?

So whats the proof?

You don't think they can get the actual transfers to prove that Trump violated campaign finance laws? With a witness ready to testify and those documents I'd say that they have an open and shut case which cannot be prosecuted as long as he remains in office.

That is the problem.
 

fskimospy

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Ok Ok Yes SOUNDS bad.. but ummm what are the facts? he said she said so far? what was the felonies? Seems like people have lawyers do things with out asking them so its impossible to get in trouble right. then the lawyer says Hey hey i did really bad things for you remember!?

So whats the proof?

You’re saying eyewitness testimony isn’t proof?
 

BonzaiDuck

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Yes . . of course . . . because . . . and "but" . . .

There are two standards for arriving at the Truth. A scientific standard accepts solid inferences about facts as well as the facts themselves, and a scientific standard allows for Truth to exist as a "theory." The theory, even if it seems reliable, must contain elements that would allow a test that can disprove that very theory. Further, the Truth must exist with some degree of uncertainty. If it were a matter of running twenty or thirty "tests" or testing a proposition for which there is a population of similarly defined observations, the uncertainty involves a statistical scatter, and statistical tests can always show anomalies that yield Alpha or Beta errors: the error that the test failed to prove the hypothesis when the hypothesis is actually True, and the error that the test proved True when the hypothesis was actually false.

The second standard -- or another standard -- is a legal standard based on the rules of evidence and the notion of "reasonable doubt." These factors are part of a legal system skewed toward accepting one type of error as True to a greater degree than accepting the other type of error. Better to let a guilty man go free than to punish an innocent.

Here is the objective meaning of the expression "Witch Hunt."

In ordinary criminal investigation, you have usually the situation of a consensus that a crime has been committed and some degree of certainty for it. You don't have the evidence that meets a legal standard yet as to the culpability for the crime -- which is the objective to prove through a criminal investigation. You make some hypotheses; you look for more evidence by which that evidence would prove one of those hypotheses before proceeding with more hypotheses and evidence discovery; you develop a list of suspects based on motive and opportunity; you make hypotheses about those suspects and search for more evidence to prove or disprove.

A "Witch Hunt" is more likely a search for a crime or wrongdoing, given a variety of causes for some unfortunate event. The Hunters already have a Witch in mind -- a person of interest, a suspect. That is, there is a suspect, but no certainty of a crime.

Since an impeachment proceeding is also a trial of sorts, one could meet the legal standards during the proceeding, and you wouldn't need to do so simply for initiating the impeachment. But a scientific standard applied to a likely crime would equally justify the impeachment.

The National Security Apparatus produced evidence of a crime beginning late 2016 -- in that the Kremlin had pursued a psy-war strategy to influence the election. This could include other crimes -- for instance -- the two school terror hoaxes that occurred with perfect timing that preceded major media political debates. One would say "There is definitely a crime." Did it only involve the Russians? Or did it involve other persons of interest?

Trump's behavior and actions since the campaign could almost rise to the standard of impeachable. But why not wait for Mueller to reveal what he already knows, and what he can further develop as evidence to meet the legal standard until his search path runs out -- hoping for an impeachment and conviction?

What about the mere $130,000 -- $420,000, actually -- and the $150,000 in hush-money payments? Gee! It's only a campaign financing violation! Why -- the Obama administration paid fines for campaign financing violations! It's such a relatively small amount of money! He did it for his wife! But that dog don't hunt: he and Cohen admitted that he did it to influence the election. "But you can't prove that it had an impact on the election!" Of course: you'd want a statistical test of "before and after," and it might be difficult or impossible. Doesn't matter: the candidate expressed his intent in committing the campaign finance crime. And of course -- it didn't matter if "it was his money." He was supposed to declare it under FEC law and regs. The crime is what it is -- a felony -- given the intent.

That brings a different way of looking at the size of those payments. The magnitude of payment only proves that Trump has been one of the most efficient Frauds in our history. He only used $550,000 to withhold information from the electorate that would have likely lost him the White House. "Likely" doesn't matter here -- he had the intent. No statistical proof necessary. That's not just a "technical" violation. It would've been massive fraud against the American People even if he'd only bought off Stormy and Karen with a Franklin each.

There are probably several other "issues" that deserve exploration as impeachable. But these represent my views.

Some Democrats are aflutter about using Impeachment as a campaign issue. Some Republicans think the Dems SHOULD use it as a campaign issue. Whether midterm or presidential campaign, it IS a campaign issue, whether it is used in campaign promotions or not.

But it is no hypocrisy to avoid speaking to Impeachment as a goal or objective, while speaking about "Good government."

And the country might as well wait for Mueller's result, unless he's fired. Firing Mueller would be grounds for impeachment.
 
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killster1

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You don't think they can get the actual transfers to prove that Trump violated campaign finance laws? With a witness ready to testify and those documents I'd say that they have an open and shut case which cannot be prosecuted as long as he remains in office.

That is the problem.
You’re saying eyewitness testimony isn’t proof?

i can testify i saw you kill your mom, does it mean you did it? is it proof? no. I wonder also which candidate in history has not mis-used funds. really we should crack down on everyone with this. Isnt clinton super guilty of this exact thing? taking so much donations for her charity by selling off nuclear items? ;) Down with them all! put robots in charge that we can fully trust! I dont trust any human
 

Amused

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i can testify i saw you kill your mom, does it mean you did it? is it proof? no. I wonder also which candidate in history has not mis-used funds. really we should crack down on everyone with this. Isnt clinton super guilty of this exact thing? taking so much donations for her charity selling off nuclear items? ;) Down with them all! put robots in charge that we can fully trust! I dont trust any human

It does if you have tapes of him ordering it, and a paper and money trail proving payment.

But yeah, keep claiming it's just Cohen's word devoid of any other evidence. It fits your narrative better.
 

killster1

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It does if you have tapes of him ordering it, and a paper and money trail proving payment.

But yeah, keep claiming it's just Cohen's word devoid of any other evidence. It fits your narrative better.
I DIDNT claim anything. i asked the proof they said its one person's testimony that is the PROOF.. hahahah like no one has lied on the stand? Now if you said there are videos then yea that is proof.