Quick note for parents who take their small children to restaurants and cafes...

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: NFS4
It just seems to be that all of the people here with kids that are saying that it's acceptable for their kids to scream/cry and annoy other patrons are just being selfish. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

What if you go to a nice restaurant to have an anniversary dinner with your wife. You're playing close to $100 a plate and everything is going wonderfully. Then some family comes in with a screaming baby one table over. The baby won't shut the heck up. Are you telling me that wouldn't annoy the hell out of you?

The same thing happens in church. Our church provides a room where parents can go that is soundproof and has chairs, benches, and nice accommodations for families to enjoy the service. Not only can they look out through the glass and see the preacher speaking, but they also have a big LCD TV hanging from the wall where they can watch and sound pumping through speakers -- it's a nice area.

The room is easily big enough to fit about 10-15 families and it's usually half full. But what do the parents do? They STILL bring their crying babies into the sanctuary where they cry, scream, and generally make a scene. Then the parents get all embarrassed when people turn around and look at them. And then when the staring continues and the crying gets louder, they FINALLY leave to take the kid out.

Hey jerk, GO TO THE FAMILY ROOM IN THE FIRST PLACE!!

Dude...this isn't fucking Star Trek and you aren't Mr. Fucking Spock. It's dinner...:laugh:

It's common sense. Why should the whole restaurant be inconvenienced over the crying of one kid?

Do you honestly think that it's a not a big deal if an otherwise tame and pleasant dining atmosphere is interrupted by crying/screaming?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: NFS4
It just seems to be that all of the people here with kids that are saying that it's acceptable for their kids to scream/cry and annoy other patrons are just being selfish. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

What if you go to a nice restaurant to have an anniversary dinner with your wife. You're playing close to $100 a plate and everything is going wonderfully. Then some family comes in with a screaming baby one table over. The baby won't shut the heck up. Are you telling me that wouldn't annoy the hell out of you?

The same thing happens in church. Our church provides a room where parents can go that is soundproof and has chairs, benches, and nice accommodations for families to enjoy the service. Not only can they look out through the glass and see the preacher speaking, but they also have a big LCD TV hanging from the wall where they can watch and sound pumping through speakers -- it's a nice area.

The room is easily big enough to fit about 10-15 families and it's usually half full. But what do the parents do? They STILL bring their crying babies into the sanctuary where they cry, scream, and generally make a scene. Then the parents get all embarrassed when people turn around and look at them. And then when the staring continues and the crying gets louder, they FINALLY leave to take the kid out.

Hey jerk, GO TO THE FAMILY ROOM IN THE FIRST PLACE!!

Dude...this isn't fucking Star Trek and you aren't Mr. Fucking Spock. It's dinner...:laugh:

It's common sense. Why should the whole restaurant be inconvenienced over the crying of one kid?

Do you honestly think that it's a not a big deal if an otherwise tame and pleasant dining atmosphere is interrupted by crying/screaming?

Your generalizations are showing.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
This thread bores me now. Although if we start talking about Star Trek it may become interesting....

What do you think they do in the Star Trek universe? Transport children into the teleporter buffer while dinner is in progress?

There are only children in the Star Trek universe when it adds to the story line and/or plot...and they are always perfectly well behaved and levitating objects with their advanced and well controlled minds.

Damn perv!

 

[looker001]

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

The topic of this thread is people taking their children to cafe/restaurants are assholes. That is the point of debate. Not how much they cry. Anyone with a kid is going to be offended by that comment.

Seriously - what do you expect us to do? Lock ourselves away for 18 years? Children crying is a part of life, and if you guys don't like it then so be it. They need to eat to. My childs welfare is far more important to me than you, so any filthy looks will just get ignored.

It's not, at least not for my argument, so you can either keep that in mind when responding or try to argue something that I'm not.

Yes, they do need to eat, however they do not need to eat at a restaurant, especially if they're just crying constantly or are acting out. I'm sorry, but not taking your child out to eat is not damaging their welfare in any way so you simply have no argument there.

Something else, why is it that the couple of you who are being particular about being inconsiderate keep harping on people not understanding because they don't have kids? Plenty of parents who have had several kids hate having to hear other people's kids cry their eyes out (in fact they're typically the ones that will tell the people to do something about their kid).

Do you need to eat at a restaurant? No one needs to eat at one. Again, what do you expect us to do? Lock them up until they're 18 and then release them into the public? Never ever take them out to a public eating area? That's taking the "kids should be seen and not heard" attitude a bit far don't you think?

My son enjoys eating out, just like the rest of us. I enjoy taking my family out for a family dinner. If the manager isn't happy, he can change his policy. But they wont - because we make them a lot of money.

I dont have a problem with kids as long as they're generally well behaved. If the kid is crying nonstop I think it's common courtesy to take hte kid outside to let it calm down before going back into the restaurant. And honestly no one said anything about locking them up until they're 18. Once your kid is old enough to understand you, they should be at the point where they can behave properly for 2 hours during a restaurant meal. Honestly the only sacrifice you would need to make is not taking them out during the very early years when they can jsut cry for no real reason.

I don't give a crap about common courtesy as last time I checked, no such law existed. So if i want to take my family to restaurant and my baby starts crying, you got two choices 1)deal with it or 2) leave. No, I don't care that you're being pissed off because you can't enjoy your $100 plate.

 

[JDawg1536]

http://childrenofcharacter.blo...taurant-etiquette.html

This is for your kids.


And this next one is your you selfish and inconsiderate douchebags-

http://www.metroactive.com/pap...06.00/dining-0001.html

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

The topic of this thread is people taking their children to cafe/restaurants are assholes. That is the point of debate. Not how much they cry. Anyone with a kid is going to be offended by that comment.

Seriously - what do you expect us to do? Lock ourselves away for 18 years? Children crying is a part of life, and if you guys don't like it then so be it. They need to eat to. My childs welfare is far more important to me than you, so any filthy looks will just get ignored.

It's not, at least not for my argument, so you can either keep that in mind when responding or try to argue something that I'm not.

Yes, they do need to eat, however they do not need to eat at a restaurant, especially if they're just crying constantly or are acting out. I'm sorry, but not taking your child out to eat is not damaging their welfare in any way so you simply have no argument there.

Something else, why is it that the couple of you who are being particular about being inconsiderate keep harping on people not understanding because they don't have kids? Plenty of parents who have had several kids hate having to hear other people's kids cry their eyes out (in fact they're typically the ones that will tell the people to do something about their kid).

Do you need to eat at a restaurant? No one needs to eat at one. Again, what do you expect us to do? Lock them up until they're 18 and then release them into the public? Never ever take them out to a public eating area? That's taking the "kids should be seen and not heard" attitude a bit far don't you think?

My son enjoys eating out, just like the rest of us. I enjoy taking my family out for a family dinner. If the manager isn't happy, he can change his policy. But they wont - because we make them a lot of money.

I dont have a problem with kids as long as they're generally well behaved. If the kid is crying nonstop I think it's common courtesy to take hte kid outside to let it calm down before going back into the restaurant. And honestly no one said anything about locking them up until they're 18. Once your kid is old enough to understand you, they should be at the point where they can behave properly for 2 hours during a restaurant meal. Honestly the only sacrifice you would need to make is not taking them out during the very early years when they can jsut cry for no real reason.

I don't give a crap about common courtesy as last time I checked, no such law existed. So if i want to take my family to restaurant and my baby starts crying, you got two choices 1)deal with it or 2) leave. No, I don't care that you're being pissed off because you can't enjoy your $100 plate.

I have a third choice: 3)Have the management make you leave.

I've done it more than once and I'd do it for an asshole like you in a heart beat.

 

[JDawg1536]

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

The topic of this thread is people taking their children to cafe/restaurants are assholes. That is the point of debate. Not how much they cry. Anyone with a kid is going to be offended by that comment.

Seriously - what do you expect us to do? Lock ourselves away for 18 years? Children crying is a part of life, and if you guys don't like it then so be it. They need to eat to. My childs welfare is far more important to me than you, so any filthy looks will just get ignored.

It's not, at least not for my argument, so you can either keep that in mind when responding or try to argue something that I'm not.

Yes, they do need to eat, however they do not need to eat at a restaurant, especially if they're just crying constantly or are acting out. I'm sorry, but not taking your child out to eat is not damaging their welfare in any way so you simply have no argument there.

Something else, why is it that the couple of you who are being particular about being inconsiderate keep harping on people not understanding because they don't have kids? Plenty of parents who have had several kids hate having to hear other people's kids cry their eyes out (in fact they're typically the ones that will tell the people to do something about their kid).

Do you need to eat at a restaurant? No one needs to eat at one. Again, what do you expect us to do? Lock them up until they're 18 and then release them into the public? Never ever take them out to a public eating area? That's taking the "kids should be seen and not heard" attitude a bit far don't you think?

My son enjoys eating out, just like the rest of us. I enjoy taking my family out for a family dinner. If the manager isn't happy, he can change his policy. But they wont - because we make them a lot of money.

I dont have a problem with kids as long as they're generally well behaved. If the kid is crying nonstop I think it's common courtesy to take hte kid outside to let it calm down before going back into the restaurant. And honestly no one said anything about locking them up until they're 18. Once your kid is old enough to understand you, they should be at the point where they can behave properly for 2 hours during a restaurant meal. Honestly the only sacrifice you would need to make is not taking them out during the very early years when they can jsut cry for no real reason.

I don't give a crap about common courtesy as last time I checked, no such law existed. So if i want to take my family to restaurant and my baby starts crying, you got two choices 1)deal with it or 2) leave. No, I don't care that you're being pissed off because you can't enjoy your $100 plate.

Yeah, but would you care if I kept coming over to your table and farting in your face while you were trying to eat? Or what if I started criticizing you, making fun of your appearance, and directing racial slurs toward you? Is there a law against where I can fart of what I'm allowed to say?

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

The topic of this thread is people taking their children to cafe/restaurants are assholes. That is the point of debate. Not how much they cry. Anyone with a kid is going to be offended by that comment.

Seriously - what do you expect us to do? Lock ourselves away for 18 years? Children crying is a part of life, and if you guys don't like it then so be it. They need to eat to. My childs welfare is far more important to me than you, so any filthy looks will just get ignored.

It's not, at least not for my argument, so you can either keep that in mind when responding or try to argue something that I'm not.

Yes, they do need to eat, however they do not need to eat at a restaurant, especially if they're just crying constantly or are acting out. I'm sorry, but not taking your child out to eat is not damaging their welfare in any way so you simply have no argument there.

Something else, why is it that the couple of you who are being particular about being inconsiderate keep harping on people not understanding because they don't have kids? Plenty of parents who have had several kids hate having to hear other people's kids cry their eyes out (in fact they're typically the ones that will tell the people to do something about their kid).

Do you need to eat at a restaurant? No one needs to eat at one. Again, what do you expect us to do? Lock them up until they're 18 and then release them into the public? Never ever take them out to a public eating area? That's taking the "kids should be seen and not heard" attitude a bit far don't you think?

My son enjoys eating out, just like the rest of us. I enjoy taking my family out for a family dinner. If the manager isn't happy, he can change his policy. But they wont - because we make them a lot of money.

I dont have a problem with kids as long as they're generally well behaved. If the kid is crying nonstop I think it's common courtesy to take hte kid outside to let it calm down before going back into the restaurant. And honestly no one said anything about locking them up until they're 18. Once your kid is old enough to understand you, they should be at the point where they can behave properly for 2 hours during a restaurant meal. Honestly the only sacrifice you would need to make is not taking them out during the very early years when they can jsut cry for no real reason.

I don't give a crap about common courtesy as last time I checked, no such law existed. So if i want to take my family to restaurant and my baby starts crying, you got two choices 1)deal with it or 2) leave. No, I don't care that you're being pissed off because you can't enjoy your $100 plate.

lets see. throw out 1 rude family who is bothering many others. or have a bunch of complaints and lose business from others. wich do you think the manager is going to pick? not the ones complaining because you think your shit don't stink.

go ahead and put on a show for t hem to see. continue to post how you don't care and you would make them call the cops to drag you out. for someone who does nto care about what people think you keep trying to show how much of a badass you (wish you were) are.

as i said. odds are you are a little twat living in the basement of his parents.

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

The topic of this thread is people taking their children to cafe/restaurants are assholes. That is the point of debate. Not how much they cry. Anyone with a kid is going to be offended by that comment.

Seriously - what do you expect us to do? Lock ourselves away for 18 years? Children crying is a part of life, and if you guys don't like it then so be it. They need to eat to. My childs welfare is far more important to me than you, so any filthy looks will just get ignored.

It's not, at least not for my argument, so you can either keep that in mind when responding or try to argue something that I'm not.

Yes, they do need to eat, however they do not need to eat at a restaurant, especially if they're just crying constantly or are acting out. I'm sorry, but not taking your child out to eat is not damaging their welfare in any way so you simply have no argument there.

Something else, why is it that the couple of you who are being particular about being inconsiderate keep harping on people not understanding because they don't have kids? Plenty of parents who have had several kids hate having to hear other people's kids cry their eyes out (in fact they're typically the ones that will tell the people to do something about their kid).

Do you need to eat at a restaurant? No one needs to eat at one. Again, what do you expect us to do? Lock them up until they're 18 and then release them into the public? Never ever take them out to a public eating area? That's taking the "kids should be seen and not heard" attitude a bit far don't you think?

My son enjoys eating out, just like the rest of us. I enjoy taking my family out for a family dinner. If the manager isn't happy, he can change his policy. But they wont - because we make them a lot of money.

I dont have a problem with kids as long as they're generally well behaved. If the kid is crying nonstop I think it's common courtesy to take hte kid outside to let it calm down before going back into the restaurant. And honestly no one said anything about locking them up until they're 18. Once your kid is old enough to understand you, they should be at the point where they can behave properly for 2 hours during a restaurant meal. Honestly the only sacrifice you would need to make is not taking them out during the very early years when they can jsut cry for no real reason.

I don't give a crap about common courtesy as last time I checked, no such law existed. So if i want to take my family to restaurant and my baby starts crying, you got two choices 1)deal with it or 2) leave. No, I don't care that you're being pissed off because you can't enjoy your $100 plate.

Because you're an ass. This is why we have stupid ass laws regulating the minutia of human behavior. Because folks are too god damned self-centered to practice common courtesy or consider the effects of their actions on others. Example: The only reason we have smoking laws is because smokers are jackasses. If smokers would treat others with respect out of a sense of decency we wouldn't need smoking laws. Since smokers have demonstrated over the decades that they are total dick-smacks the decent people passed laws to rein in the little butt munchers.

 

[Brainonska511]

If you're kids are too young to sit still in a restaurant, don't take them to a fancier place. If you take them anywhere, make sure they have a little quiet thing to keep them occupied at times. Once they can sit still for longer time frames without needing constant attention, you can start going back to the nicer places. I've seen plenty of well-behaved children sitting in restaurants and plenty of crazy children screaming.

No need for the ridiculously harsh attitudes towards all parents with small children.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
If you're kids are too young to sit still in a restaurant, don't take them to a fancier place. If you take them anywhere, make sure they have a little quiet thing to keep them occupied at times. Once they can sit still for longer time frames without needing constant attention, you can start going back to the nicer places. I've seen plenty of well-behaved children sitting in restaurants and plenty of crazy children screaming.

No need for the ridiculously harsh attitudes towards all parents with small children.

to many feel its a all or nothing situation. You have some that think NO children should be allowed in the resturant. then you have idiots like looker that figure fuck you i will do what i want and ruin the night out for others.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

The topic of this thread is people taking their children to cafe/restaurants are assholes. That is the point of debate. Not how much they cry. Anyone with a kid is going to be offended by that comment.

Seriously - what do you expect us to do? Lock ourselves away for 18 years? Children crying is a part of life, and if you guys don't like it then so be it. They need to eat to. My childs welfare is far more important to me than you, so any filthy looks will just get ignored.

It's not, at least not for my argument, so you can either keep that in mind when responding or try to argue something that I'm not.

Yes, they do need to eat, however they do not need to eat at a restaurant, especially if they're just crying constantly or are acting out. I'm sorry, but not taking your child out to eat is not damaging their welfare in any way so you simply have no argument there.

Something else, why is it that the couple of you who are being particular about being inconsiderate keep harping on people not understanding because they don't have kids? Plenty of parents who have had several kids hate having to hear other people's kids cry their eyes out (in fact they're typically the ones that will tell the people to do something about their kid).

Do you need to eat at a restaurant? No one needs to eat at one. Again, what do you expect us to do? Lock them up until they're 18 and then release them into the public? Never ever take them out to a public eating area? That's taking the "kids should be seen and not heard" attitude a bit far don't you think?

My son enjoys eating out, just like the rest of us. I enjoy taking my family out for a family dinner. If the manager isn't happy, he can change his policy. But they wont - because we make them a lot of money.

I dont have a problem with kids as long as they're generally well behaved. If the kid is crying nonstop I think it's common courtesy to take hte kid outside to let it calm down before going back into the restaurant. And honestly no one said anything about locking them up until they're 18. Once your kid is old enough to understand you, they should be at the point where they can behave properly for 2 hours during a restaurant meal. Honestly the only sacrifice you would need to make is not taking them out during the very early years when they can jsut cry for no real reason.

I don't give a crap about common courtesy as last time I checked, no such law existed. So if i want to take my family to restaurant and my baby starts crying, you got two choices 1)deal with it or 2) leave. No, I don't care that you're being pissed off because you can't enjoy your $100 plate.

If it were me personally, I wouldn't take a newborn to a $100/plate restaurant and if I did and he/she started crying I'd probably excuse myself and deal with it outside so as not to annoy anyone else.

I've had a few instances where my son was misbehaving. I give him a few warnings and when he went too far I excused myself and took him outside until he felt that he could rejoin society. I definitely wouldn't just let him scream his head off through the entire meal or act like a monkey climbing all over everything in the place either.

Then again, the places where we went through this with him weren't 5 star restaurants either...they were places like Chili's or Islands.

A child acting up is nothing to be overly annoyed by. We're all human and part of life is procreation and dealing with the young animals we create. If the child does this through the entire dinner and the parents do nothing about it? Yeah, that would annoy me and I'd fully support tossing them. Teaching children how to behave in situations like this is part of growing up though. A little leeway should be given IMO.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
If it were me personally, I wouldn't take a newborn to a $100/plate restaurant and if I did and he/she started crying I'd probably excuse myself and deal with it outside so as not to annoy anyone else.

I've had a few instances where my son was misbehaving. I give him a few warnings and when he went too far I excused myself and took him outside until he felt that he could rejoin society. I definitely wouldn't just let him scream his head off through the entire meal or act like a monkey climbing all over everything in the place either.

Then again, the places where we went through this with him weren't 5 star restaurants either...they were places like Chili's or Islands.

A child acting up is nothing to be overly annoyed by. We're all human and part of life is procreation and dealing with the young animals we create. If the child does this through the entire dinner and the parents do nothing about it? Yeah, that would annoy me and I'd fully support tossing them. Teaching children how to behave in situations like this is part of growing up though. A little leeway should be given IMO.

exactly.

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: looker001
Kiss my ass, seriously if you got problem with it, than don't got to that restaurant or that cafe. What do you want parents to do, sit home just because you have problem with it?

Nice logic. So, what do you propose if say they've just put my food on the table and someone brings in a screeching baby?

Yes, they should stay at home, or I don't know, offload the little runt instead. You shouldn't be feeding babies what you get in these places anyway. If you're kid is old enough but is still an annoyance then you should be doing something about it.

The worst are the assholes who bring in ones that are teething or have an infection (ear) that makes them cry constantly.

What law requires me to keep my kid at home because you don't like how the kid is behaving? Oh ye, that is right no law. So basically you will just have to deal with it. Don't expect people to put their lifes on hold just to live up to your standard.

We don't have problems with your kids so long as they are behaving, if they aren't, it's also a reflection of you being a shitty parent and lacking respect for others around you.

Because you have a kid does not entitle you to ruin the experience of the people around you.

Asshole.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
If it were me personally, I wouldn't take a newborn to a $100/plate restaurant and if I did and he/she started crying I'd probably excuse myself and deal with it outside so as not to annoy anyone else.

I've had a few instances where my son was misbehaving. I give him a few warnings and when he went too far I excused myself and took him outside until he felt that he could rejoin society. I definitely wouldn't just let him scream his head off through the entire meal or act like a monkey climbing all over everything in the place either.

Then again, the places where we went through this with him weren't 5 star restaurants either...they were places like Chili's or Islands.

A child acting up is nothing to be overly annoyed by. We're all human and part of life is procreation and dealing with the young animals we create. If the child does this through the entire dinner and the parents do nothing about it? Yeah, that would annoy me and I'd fully support tossing them. Teaching children how to behave in situations like this is part of growing up though. A little leeway should be given IMO.

I can live with that

 

[SunnyD]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
If it were me personally, I wouldn't take a newborn to a $100/plate restaurant and if I did and he/she started crying I'd probably excuse myself and deal with it outside so as not to annoy anyone else.

I've had a few instances where my son was misbehaving. I give him a few warnings and when he went too far I excused myself and took him outside until he felt that he could rejoin society. I definitely wouldn't just let him scream his head off through the entire meal or act like a monkey climbing all over everything in the place either.

Then again, the places where we went through this with him weren't 5 star restaurants either...they were places like Chili's or Islands.

A child acting up is nothing to be overly annoyed by. We're all human and part of life is procreation and dealing with the young animals we create. If the child does this through the entire dinner and the parents do nothing about it? Yeah, that would annoy me and I'd fully support tossing them. Teaching children how to behave in situations like this is part of growing up though. A little leeway should be given IMO.

I don't think it could have been said any better. I suppose I neglected to ask whether the parents in the OP's rant were doing ANYTHING to try to diffuse the situation. If they were just letting there kids run amok (which I personally detest), then yeah, I'm on board. My 4 kids behave relatively well in restaurants, that includes my 9 month old. But I'm also not going to take my kids to a formal restaurant either.

 

[StinkyPinky]

Originally posted by: JDawg1536
http://childrenofcharacter.blo...taurant-etiquette.html

This is for your kids.


And this next one is your you selfish and inconsiderate douchebags-

http://www.metroactive.com/pap...06.00/dining-0001.html

Yeah, but that's written by some metrosexual childless asshole who doesn't like Star Trek.

 

[IronWing]

Maybe I should bring my cats to a fancy restaurant. They could race around yowling, running through the asparagus-with-red-wine-mustard-reduction-glaze, stealing food off people's plates, pissing on the drapes, and still not be as annoying as "well-behaved" children.

 

[JDawg1536]

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

Originally posted by: JDawg1536
http://childrenofcharacter.blo...taurant-etiquette.html

This is for your kids.


And this next one is your you selfish and inconsiderate douchebags-

http://www.metroactive.com/pap...06.00/dining-0001.html

Yeah, but that's written by some metrosexual childless asshole who doesn't like Star Trek.

Metro is the name of the publication, not the sexual orientation. Star Trek = WoW for an earlier generation.

 

[Mo0o]

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

The topic of this thread is people taking their children to cafe/restaurants are assholes. That is the point of debate. Not how much they cry. Anyone with a kid is going to be offended by that comment.

Seriously - what do you expect us to do? Lock ourselves away for 18 years? Children crying is a part of life, and if you guys don't like it then so be it. They need to eat to. My childs welfare is far more important to me than you, so any filthy looks will just get ignored.

It's not, at least not for my argument, so you can either keep that in mind when responding or try to argue something that I'm not.

Yes, they do need to eat, however they do not need to eat at a restaurant, especially if they're just crying constantly or are acting out. I'm sorry, but not taking your child out to eat is not damaging their welfare in any way so you simply have no argument there.

Something else, why is it that the couple of you who are being particular about being inconsiderate keep harping on people not understanding because they don't have kids? Plenty of parents who have had several kids hate having to hear other people's kids cry their eyes out (in fact they're typically the ones that will tell the people to do something about their kid).

Do you need to eat at a restaurant? No one needs to eat at one. Again, what do you expect us to do? Lock them up until they're 18 and then release them into the public? Never ever take them out to a public eating area? That's taking the "kids should be seen and not heard" attitude a bit far don't you think?

My son enjoys eating out, just like the rest of us. I enjoy taking my family out for a family dinner. If the manager isn't happy, he can change his policy. But they wont - because we make them a lot of money.

I dont have a problem with kids as long as they're generally well behaved. If the kid is crying nonstop I think it's common courtesy to take hte kid outside to let it calm down before going back into the restaurant. And honestly no one said anything about locking them up until they're 18. Once your kid is old enough to understand you, they should be at the point where they can behave properly for 2 hours during a restaurant meal. Honestly the only sacrifice you would need to make is not taking them out during the very early years when they can jsut cry for no real reason.

I don't give a crap about common courtesy as last time I checked, no such law existed. So if i want to take my family to restaurant and my baby starts crying, you got two choices 1)deal with it or 2) leave. No, I don't care that you're being pissed off because you can't enjoy your $100 plate.

Why does there need to be a law for you to do something? A constantly crying child isnt an ordinary thing at a nice restaurant and it's something MOST people find aggravating. So you're telling me if you're eating at a restaurant and yo'ure sitting behind someone else kid with a diaper full of shit thats just wafting into your nostrils, you wouldnt be bothered in the slightest?

 

[Iron Woode]

Originally posted by: JDawg1536
http://childrenofcharacter.blo...taurant-etiquette.html

This is for your kids.


And this next one is your you selfish and inconsiderate douchebags-

http://www.metroactive.com/pap...06.00/dining-0001.html

reminds me of that old MSNBC article: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14136994/

 

[IGBT]

..fusk yous. it's my right to bring my rude screaming brats and ALL their dirty diaper friends to any restaurant I please. If they let me in the door, I'll stay as long as I please. And if I feel like changing a few nugget loaded diapers on the dinner table in your full view well, that's just the way it goes. consider it a side show complete with dirty diaper aroma.

 

[JDawg1536]

Originally posted by: IGBT
..fusk yous. it's my right to bring my rude screaming brats and ALL their dirty diaper friends to any restaurant I please. If they let me in the door, I'll stay as long as I please. And if I feel like changing a few nugget loaded diapers on the dinner table in your full view well, that's just the way it goes. consider it a side show complete with dirty diaper aroma.

So can I change Grandmas diaper on the table as well?

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

If it were me personally, I wouldn't take a newborn to a $100/plate restaurant and if I did and he/she started crying I'd probably excuse myself and deal with it outside so as not to annoy anyone else.

I've had a few instances where my son was misbehaving. I give him a few warnings and when he went too far I excused myself and took him outside until he felt that he could rejoin society. I definitely wouldn't just let him scream his head off through the entire meal or act like a monkey climbing all over everything in the place either.

Then again, the places where we went through this with him weren't 5 star restaurants either...they were places like Chili's or Islands.

A child acting up is nothing to be overly annoyed by. We're all human and part of life is procreation and dealing with the young animals we create. If the child does this through the entire dinner and the parents do nothing about it? Yeah, that would annoy me and I'd fully support tossing them. Teaching children how to behave in situations like this is part of growing up though. A little leeway should be given IMO.

Well holy hell, I agree with Jules.

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: looker001
What do you want parents to do, sit home just because you have problem with it?

That would be fine, thanks!

You DIAF would be fine, thanks!

You could also stop posting, that would make me also