Quick note for parents who take their small children to restaurants and cafes...

[Phokus]

Restaurants need to build cages for kids that don't stfu

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: looker001

Originally posted by: Mo0o

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

The topic of this thread is people taking their children to cafe/restaurants are assholes. That is the point of debate. Not how much they cry. Anyone with a kid is going to be offended by that comment.

Seriously - what do you expect us to do? Lock ourselves away for 18 years? Children crying is a part of life, and if you guys don't like it then so be it. They need to eat to. My childs welfare is far more important to me than you, so any filthy looks will just get ignored.

It's not, at least not for my argument, so you can either keep that in mind when responding or try to argue something that I'm not.

Yes, they do need to eat, however they do not need to eat at a restaurant, especially if they're just crying constantly or are acting out. I'm sorry, but not taking your child out to eat is not damaging their welfare in any way so you simply have no argument there.

Something else, why is it that the couple of you who are being particular about being inconsiderate keep harping on people not understanding because they don't have kids? Plenty of parents who have had several kids hate having to hear other people's kids cry their eyes out (in fact they're typically the ones that will tell the people to do something about their kid).

Do you need to eat at a restaurant? No one needs to eat at one. Again, what do you expect us to do? Lock them up until they're 18 and then release them into the public? Never ever take them out to a public eating area? That's taking the "kids should be seen and not heard" attitude a bit far don't you think?

My son enjoys eating out, just like the rest of us. I enjoy taking my family out for a family dinner. If the manager isn't happy, he can change his policy. But they wont - because we make them a lot of money.

I dont have a problem with kids as long as they're generally well behaved. If the kid is crying nonstop I think it's common courtesy to take hte kid outside to let it calm down before going back into the restaurant. And honestly no one said anything about locking them up until they're 18. Once your kid is old enough to understand you, they should be at the point where they can behave properly for 2 hours during a restaurant meal. Honestly the only sacrifice you would need to make is not taking them out during the very early years when they can jsut cry for no real reason.

I don't give a crap about common courtesy as last time I checked, no such law existed. So if i want to take my family to restaurant and my baby starts crying, you got two choices 1)deal with it or 2) leave. No, I don't care that you're being pissed off because you can't enjoy your $100 plate.

Why does there need to be a law for you to do something? A constantly crying child isnt an ordinary thing at a nice restaurant and it's something MOST people find aggravating. So you're telling me if you're eating at a restaurant and yo'ure sitting behind someone else kid with a diaper full of shit thats just wafting into your nostrils, you wouldnt be bothered in the slightest?

Stop feeding the fucking troll!
:roll:

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: darkswordsman17

Originally posted by: zinfamous

what are you, 12? You got a lot to learn, chump.

What? So, if you're baby is crying nonstop, you can't pick it up and take it somewhere else where it wouldn't be bothering probably 20-50 other people? Is it really that difficult to understand?

well, had you quoted your comment in this bit, mine would make more sense. I was not responding to some idea that one should be expected to take their bratty kid outside if they can't behave.

I was responding to this:

Yes, but you can do something about it, acting like you have no part in it is unfathomable. If your baby is crying excessively, you should be doing something about it (like figuring out why?).

freaking naive. There is no figuring out "why" a kid is being a brat. They just want to be a brat. Giving in to their tantrums merely insures they'll keep throwing them.

I'm not commenting on them doing it in public. Thing is, it depends on the public situation.
I used to be the type that got excessively angry about this situation. And while I don't have kids....I got older? There are bigger fish to fry in life? I don't know, it does annoy me a bit when I see this, but not like it used to. It's also a bit more rare when I go out. I suppose I've found the times, and places to go where dipshit parents aren't going to bringing their dipshit kids? Doesn't mean it doesn't still happen....

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
Take a look at the OP's profile and see where he lives. I'll let you in on something, he lives in a city where I had the misfortune to live in for about 8 months ten or so years ago.

That place is the redneck shitheap of the South Pacific. A real blight on an otherwise fine country. KKK could start a chapter there and recruit 90% of the population. The only restaurants there are McDonalds and Pizza Hutt. He's not talking about high end restaurants, I assure you.

First of all, I switch between living in Tauranga and Christchurch, and I'm only in Christchurch to study. Secondly, I doubt you know a thing about the city if that's what you think. It is an extremely multicultural area, and racism as America knows it simply doesn't exist here (in New Zealand) as far as I have seen. But whatever, I'm not a big fan of Christchurch so I won't put too much energy into defending it.

 

[Lounatik]

Originally posted by: Paladin3
Father of three here. I could be at an inner-city McDonald's on $.99 Big Mac day I still wouldn't allow my kids to make a fuss at the expense of other diners. Call me old fashioned, but my children were taught at a young age how to behave in public.

My wife and I were blessed with kids who are naturally pretty well behaved, but when they were too young to know any better and acted up in public we took them outside and resolved the issue or simply left. I know, shocking idea, huh?

Yep, same here. I can't tell you how many times I have left with my kids after they started to make a scene. I do not let it escalate at all.One warning, maybe two and then we go outside for a little meeting with God. Behavior continues and away we go. I'll pay my bill if the food hasn't arrived and be gone. I refuse to let my children ruin other peoples dinner and my 6 year old gets it. Now, it is taking my 3 tear old some "persuading" but he too is coming around.

We were in Chick-Fil-A on one of my kids scool spirit nights and my 3 year old started to berserk in front of his entire class. He got his one chance to behave and blew it and we left without him playing with his friends. Harsh? No, I don't think that being cosiderate is harsh at all.

As to the posters above me who are sounding like incosiderate jerks, I think most of them are pullling your leg because they don't like the tone of your post.


Peace

Lounatik

 

[Number1]

MADD has a stupid commercial on TV depicting a baby who, for the purpose of the commercial, is crying because he has lost his mother to a drunk driver.

FUCK YOU MADD.

 

[Hammer]

wow, there are some real douchebag parents in these threads. and people wonder why society is so fscked up.

 

[moparacer]

We have been in theaters and restaurants and our 5 year old acts up. I tell her once then I drag her butt to the car.....

Oh ya and she gets her ass spanked when she gets home too....

Hows that for you "give your kid a time out" folks?

 

[child of wonder]

My kids are 6 and 4. We got out to eat with them at least once a month. Overall, they behave well. If they don't behave and scream, cry, etc. then I try to hush them in the restaurant. If that doesn't work, we go for a walk to the car for a short time out. If that doesn't work, ask to have our food boxed up and go.

Do I do this out of concern for fellow patrons? No. I do this to teach my children to behave. It's not my responsibility to make anyone else's dining experience a pleasurable one. I will do my best out of politeness to keep them quiet but I won't shut in my family for the fear of upsetting someone else. If we never take them out to eat, how will they ever learn how to behave in a restaurant?

Those that don't like noisy kids? My suggestion is to take it up with the establishment. Speak with your money. Let them know you don't care for the noise and are leaving. That's your right.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Hammer
wow, there are some real douchebag parents in these threads. and people wonder why society is so fscked up.

No kidding. These parents have raised some internet pussies who are so antisocial and fucked in the head, they routinely post on messageboards about how they'd punch a crying baby in the face for interrupting their precious meal.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Ban kids from eating. Problem solved.

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: looker001
Kiss my ass, seriously if you got problem with it, than don't got to that restaurant or that cafe. What do you want parents to do, sit home just because you have problem with it?

then

 

[StinkyPinky]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Hammer
wow, there are some real douchebag parents in these threads. and people wonder why society is so fscked up.

No kidding. These parents have raised some internet pussies who are so antisocial and fucked in the head, they routinely post on messageboards about how they'd punch a crying baby in the face for interrupting their precious meal.

Disturbing alright. Some of them need a bid dose of reality.

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Hammer
wow, there are some real douchebag parents in these threads. and people wonder why society is so fscked up.

No kidding. These parents have raised some internet pussies who are so antisocial and fucked in the head, they routinely post on messageboards about how they'd punch a crying baby in the face for interrupting their precious meal.

Disturbing alright. Some of them need a bid dose of reality.

There is a book I just read called "The self-esteem trap. Raising compassionate kids in an age of self-importance". I think almost everyone is this thread needs to read it, parent or not.

 

[oiprocs]

Originally posted by: Hammer
wow, there are some real douchebag parents in these threads. and people wonder why society is so fscked up.

Old but not so old thread, but after reading all these replies, I have to wonder if some of these parents regret having kids in the first place. Lot of pent up anger from both sides, but more so from the parents.