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waggy

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Originally posted by: looker001Unlikely that i would be leaving in cuffs unless i refuse cops order to leave. As for common courtesy and sense, screw that.

IF the managment asked you to leave and you refuse you are trasspassing. And yes you can be arrested for it. IF you are nice about it (doubt it) you will be fine if not..


but really i think your just trolling. nobody can be that idiotic.
 

looker001

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: looker001Unlikely that i would be leaving in cuffs unless i refuse cops order to leave. As for common courtesy and sense, screw that.

IF the managment asked you to leave and you refuse you are trasspassing. And yes you can be arrested for it. IF you are nice about it (doubt it) you will be fine if not..


but really i think your just trolling. nobody can be that idiotic.

I am not idiotic, i just don't give a crap what other people think.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: looker001
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: looker001Unlikely that i would be leaving in cuffs unless i refuse cops order to leave. As for common courtesy and sense, screw that.

IF the managment asked you to leave and you refuse you are trasspassing. And yes you can be arrested for it. IF you are nice about it (doubt it) you will be fine if not..


but really i think your just trolling. nobody can be that idiotic.

I am not idiotic, i just don't give a crap what other people think.

And yet I bet you're the first one to bitch when people treat you like shit.

 

StinkyPinky

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Does this thread take the record for the number of times the word "Asshole" has appeared?
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: looker001
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: looker001Unlikely that i would be leaving in cuffs unless i refuse cops order to leave. As for common courtesy and sense, screw that.

IF the managment asked you to leave and you refuse you are trasspassing. And yes you can be arrested for it. IF you are nice about it (doubt it) you will be fine if not..


but really i think your just trolling. nobody can be that idiotic.

I am not idiotic, i just don't give a crap what other people think.

for someone who does not give a crap you sure are trying hard to prove it.


but uh huh..sure whatever. odds are you a little bitch trying to act all big on the forum when you live in your mothers basement.
 

episodic

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I'm curious - I know it would go over well - why don't more establishments have a 'no kids' under 14 policy or something. . . I'd would go - for sure :p

 

ja1484

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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: looker001
What do you want parents to do, sit home just because you have problem with it?

That would be fine, thanks!


Exactly. YOU made the choice to produce offspring, YOU suffer for it. Leave the rest of us out of it.

Children are like second hand smoke.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: episodic
I'm curious - I know it would go over well - why don't more establishments have a 'no kids' under 14 policy or something. . . I'd would go - for sure :p

yeap. all the bars have a under 21 policy! :D


actually one of the nice resturants does have a under 15 policy (nicest place in town). one of the movie theatres near Campus was thinking about doing the same for R moves (and wouldnt carry g or some PG).
 

Gothgar

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shit... before long I am sure the mods will have a forums for child related posts... since they have been coming up so much lately...


to the people with out of control kids: learn to be more of a parent and less of a d-bag
 

StinkyPinky

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Originally posted by: episodic
I'm curious - I know it would go over well - why don't more establishments have a 'no kids' under 14 policy or something. . . I'd would go - for sure :p

There's a reason almost none of them do. Because most people from 30 onwards are parents who like to take their kids out without being called assholes.

I'm sure there's a market for it though. You can all sit around and talk about each others shoes and discuss the finer points of what soy bean soup tastes better.
 

NFS4

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It just seems to be that all of the people here with kids that are saying that it's acceptable for their kids to scream/cry and annoy other patrons are just being selfish. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

What if you go to a nice restaurant to have an anniversary dinner with your wife. You're playing close to $100 a plate and everything is going wonderfully. Then some family comes in with a screaming baby one table over. The baby won't shut the heck up. Are you telling me that wouldn't annoy the hell out of you?

The same thing happens in church. Our church provides a room where parents can go that is soundproof and has chairs, benches, and nice accommodations for families to enjoy the service. Not only can they look out through the glass and see the preacher speaking, but they also have a big LCD TV hanging from the wall where they can watch and sound pumping through speakers -- it's a nice area.

The room is easily big enough to fit about 10-15 families and it's usually half full. But what do the parents do? They STILL bring their crying babies into the sanctuary where they cry, scream, and generally make a scene. Then the parents get all embarrassed when people turn around and look at them. And then when the staring continues and the crying gets louder, they FINALLY leave to take the kid out.

Hey jerk, GO TO THE FAMILY ROOM IN THE FIRST PLACE!!
 
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Originally posted by: episodic
I'm curious - I know it would go over well - why don't more establishments have a 'no kids' under 14 policy or something. . . I'd would go - for sure :p

Those types of places are on the rise. Check out my earlier post in the thread, the one with all of the links. :p
 

SunnyD

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Originally posted by: NFS4
What if you go to a nice restaurant to have an anniversary dinner with your wife. You're playing close to $100 a plate and everything is going wonderfully. Then some family comes in with a screaming baby one table over. The baby won't shut the heck up. Are you telling me that wouldn't annoy the hell out of you?

How many "families" go to restaurants that charge ~$100/plate? Yeah, I think not. If you're going to bitch about a "family friendly restaurant" like Ruby Tuesdays or something of the sort, then you're pretty damn cheap and expecting way too much for your $20.
 

StinkyPinky

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Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven
Originally posted by: episodic
I'm curious - I know it would go over well - why don't more establishments have a 'no kids' under 14 policy or something. . . I'd would go - for sure :p

Those types of places are on the rise. Check out my earlier post in the thread, the one with all of the links. :p

Good. Now hopefully you will all stop bitching.
 
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Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

The topic of this thread is people taking their children to cafe/restaurants are assholes. That is the point of debate. Not how much they cry. Anyone with a kid is going to be offended by that comment.

Seriously - what do you expect us to do? Lock ourselves away for 18 years? Children crying is a part of life, and if you guys don't like it then so be it. They need to eat to. My childs welfare is far more important to me than you, so any filthy looks will just get ignored.

It's not, at least not for my argument, so you can either keep that in mind when responding or try to argue something that I'm not.

Yes, they do need to eat, however they do not need to eat at a restaurant, especially if they're just crying constantly or are acting out. I'm sorry, but not taking your child out to eat is not damaging their welfare in any way so you simply have no argument there.

Something else, why is it that the couple of you who are being particular about being inconsiderate keep harping on people not understanding because they don't have kids? Plenty of parents who have had several kids hate having to hear other people's kids cry their eyes out (in fact they're typically the ones that will tell the people to do something about their kid).

Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

There's a reason almost none of them do. Because most people from 30 onwards are parents who like to take their kids out without being called assholes.

There's plenty of parents that do take their kids out with them that get around that by just not being assholes. I know it seems to be a difficult concept for you to grasp, but then again, I suppose if it wasn't you wouldn't even be arguing.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

The topic of this thread is people taking their children to cafe/restaurants are assholes. That is the point of debate. Not how much they cry. Anyone with a kid is going to be offended by that comment.

Seriously - what do you expect us to do? Lock ourselves away for 18 years? Children crying is a part of life, and if you guys don't like it then so be it. They need to eat to. My childs welfare is far more important to me than you, so any filthy looks will just get ignored.

It's not, at least not for my argument, so you can either keep that in mind when responding or try to argue something that I'm not.

Yes, they do need to eat, however they do not need to eat at a restaurant, especially if they're just crying constantly or are acting out. I'm sorry, but not taking your child out to eat is not damaging their welfare in any way so you simply have no argument there.

Something else, why is it that the couple of you who are being particular about being inconsiderate keep harping on people not understanding because they don't have kids? Plenty of parents who have had several kids hate having to hear other people's kids cry their eyes out (in fact they're typically the ones that will tell the people to do something about their kid).

actually they do NEED to eat out at restaurants. that is how they learn.

BUT i think its silly to take a infant or young child to expensive places until they learn how to beahave (sorry 6 yr old should not be in a classy resaurant).

 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: NFS4
What if you go to a nice restaurant to have an anniversary dinner with your wife. You're playing close to $100 a plate and everything is going wonderfully. Then some family comes in with a screaming baby one table over. The baby won't shut the heck up. Are you telling me that wouldn't annoy the hell out of you?

How many "families" go to restaurants that charge ~$100/plate? Yeah, I think not. If you're going to bitch about a "family friendly restaurant" like Ruby Tuesdays or something of the sort, then you're pretty damn cheap and expecting way too much for your $20.

Try coming to Cary, NC. It's always listed in the top 20 places to live in the United States. These rich folk have no qualms about bringing their little crying babies anywhere they go -- including fancy restaurants.

My problem is not with kids being in restaurants. It's loud, crying babies that annoy the hell out of me. If your baby is quiet, that's perfectly fine.

YOU are immune to your baby's crying/screaming -- other people aren't. Show a little common courtesy.
 

StinkyPinky

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Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

The topic of this thread is people taking their children to cafe/restaurants are assholes. That is the point of debate. Not how much they cry. Anyone with a kid is going to be offended by that comment.

Seriously - what do you expect us to do? Lock ourselves away for 18 years? Children crying is a part of life, and if you guys don't like it then so be it. They need to eat to. My childs welfare is far more important to me than you, so any filthy looks will just get ignored.

It's not, at least not for my argument, so you can either keep that in mind when responding or try to argue something that I'm not.

Yes, they do need to eat, however they do not need to eat at a restaurant, especially if they're just crying constantly or are acting out. I'm sorry, but not taking your child out to eat is not damaging their welfare in any way so you simply have no argument there.

Something else, why is it that the couple of you who are being particular about being inconsiderate keep harping on people not understanding because they don't have kids? Plenty of parents who have had several kids hate having to hear other people's kids cry their eyes out (in fact they're typically the ones that will tell the people to do something about their kid).

Do you need to eat at a restaurant? No one needs to eat at one. Again, what do you expect us to do? Lock them up until they're 18 and then release them into the public? Never ever take them out to a public eating area? That's taking the "kids should be seen and not heard" attitude a bit far don't you think?

My son enjoys eating out, just like the rest of us. I enjoy taking my family out for a family dinner. If the manager isn't happy, he can change his policy. But they wont - because we make them a lot of money.

 

Mo0o

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Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
Originally posted by: darkswordsman17
Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

The topic of this thread is people taking their children to cafe/restaurants are assholes. That is the point of debate. Not how much they cry. Anyone with a kid is going to be offended by that comment.

Seriously - what do you expect us to do? Lock ourselves away for 18 years? Children crying is a part of life, and if you guys don't like it then so be it. They need to eat to. My childs welfare is far more important to me than you, so any filthy looks will just get ignored.

It's not, at least not for my argument, so you can either keep that in mind when responding or try to argue something that I'm not.

Yes, they do need to eat, however they do not need to eat at a restaurant, especially if they're just crying constantly or are acting out. I'm sorry, but not taking your child out to eat is not damaging their welfare in any way so you simply have no argument there.

Something else, why is it that the couple of you who are being particular about being inconsiderate keep harping on people not understanding because they don't have kids? Plenty of parents who have had several kids hate having to hear other people's kids cry their eyes out (in fact they're typically the ones that will tell the people to do something about their kid).

Do you need to eat at a restaurant? No one needs to eat at one. Again, what do you expect us to do? Lock them up until they're 18 and then release them into the public? Never ever take them out to a public eating area? That's taking the "kids should be seen and not heard" attitude a bit far don't you think?

My son enjoys eating out, just like the rest of us. I enjoy taking my family out for a family dinner. If the manager isn't happy, he can change his policy. But they wont - because we make them a lot of money.

I dont have a problem with kids as long as they're generally well behaved. If the kid is crying nonstop I think it's common courtesy to take hte kid outside to let it calm down before going back into the restaurant. And honestly no one said anything about locking them up until they're 18. Once your kid is old enough to understand you, they should be at the point where they can behave properly for 2 hours during a restaurant meal. Honestly the only sacrifice you would need to make is not taking them out during the very early years when they can jsut cry for no real reason.
 

StinkyPinky

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Originally posted by: NFS4
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Originally posted by: NFS4
What if you go to a nice restaurant to have an anniversary dinner with your wife. You're playing close to $100 a plate and everything is going wonderfully. Then some family comes in with a screaming baby one table over. The baby won't shut the heck up. Are you telling me that wouldn't annoy the hell out of you?

How many "families" go to restaurants that charge ~$100/plate? Yeah, I think not. If you're going to bitch about a "family friendly restaurant" like Ruby Tuesdays or something of the sort, then you're pretty damn cheap and expecting way too much for your $20.

Try coming to Cary, NC. It's always listed in the top 20 places to live in the United States. These rich folk have no qualms about bringing their little crying babies anywhere they go -- including fancy restaurants.

My problem is not with kids being in restaurants. It's loud, crying babies that annoy the hell out of me. If your baby is quiet, that's perfectly fine.

YOU are immune to your baby's crying/screaming -- other people aren't. Show a little common courtesy.

Take a look at the OP's profile and see where he lives. I'll let you in on something, he lives in a city where I had the misfortune to live in for about 8 months ten or so years ago.

That place is the redneck shitheap of the South Pacific. A real blight on an otherwise fine country. KKK could start a chapter there and recruit 90% of the population. The only restaurants there are McDonalds and Pizza Hutt. He's not talking about high end restaurants, I assure you.
 
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Originally posted by: StinkyPinky

Do you need to eat at a restaurant? No one needs to eat at one. Again, what do you expect us to do? Lock them up until they're 18 and then release them into the public? Never ever take them out to a public eating area? That's taking the "kids should be seen and not heard" attitude a bit far don't you think?

My son enjoys eating out, just like the rest of us. I enjoy taking my family out for a family dinner. If the manager isn't happy, he can change his policy. But they wont - because we make them a lot of money.

So, you're just going to ignore what I'm talking about then? Ok, well, have fun arguing with yourself. I've made my point (and iterated specifically what I'm talking about) enough that the argument is just going to be cyclical (actually past that point already, but whatever).

Originally posted by: Mo0o

I dont have a problem with kids as long as they're generally well behaved. If the kid is crying nonstop I think it's common courtesy to take hte kid outside to let it calm down before going back into the restaurant. And honestly no one said anything about locking them up until they're 18. Once your kid is old enough to understand you, they should be at the point where they can behave properly for 2 hours during a restaurant meal.

This sums up my point pretty well. Apparently the number of times I've mentioned it is not enough for some people to understand.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: NFS4
It just seems to be that all of the people here with kids that are saying that it's acceptable for their kids to scream/cry and annoy other patrons are just being selfish. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

What if you go to a nice restaurant to have an anniversary dinner with your wife. You're playing close to $100 a plate and everything is going wonderfully. Then some family comes in with a screaming baby one table over. The baby won't shut the heck up. Are you telling me that wouldn't annoy the hell out of you?

The same thing happens in church. Our church provides a room where parents can go that is soundproof and has chairs, benches, and nice accommodations for families to enjoy the service. Not only can they look out through the glass and see the preacher speaking, but they also have a big LCD TV hanging from the wall where they can watch and sound pumping through speakers -- it's a nice area.

The room is easily big enough to fit about 10-15 families and it's usually half full. But what do the parents do? They STILL bring their crying babies into the sanctuary where they cry, scream, and generally make a scene. Then the parents get all embarrassed when people turn around and look at them. And then when the staring continues and the crying gets louder, they FINALLY leave to take the kid out.

Hey jerk, GO TO THE FAMILY ROOM IN THE FIRST PLACE!!

Dude...this isn't fucking Star Trek and you aren't Mr. Fucking Spock. It's dinner...:laugh:
 

StinkyPinky

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This thread bores me now. Although if we start talking about Star Trek it may become interesting....

What do you think they do in the Star Trek universe? Transport children into the teleporter buffer while dinner is in progress?
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
This thread bores me now. Although if we start talking about Star Trek it may become interesting....

What do you think they do in the Star Trek universe? Transport children into the teleporter buffer while dinner is in progress?

There are only children in the Star Trek universe when it adds to the story line and/or plot...and they are always perfectly well behaved and levitating objects with their advanced and well controlled minds.