Question on child pron

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

yes

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: broon
Yes. There is currently a case (no link) about a 15 year old girl that has been charged with distribution and they were videos of herself.

I remember this one too.. I don't know if I could find the link. I thought it was pretty idiotic.

 

[jiwq]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: broon
Yes. There is currently a case (no link) about a 15 year old girl that has been charged with distribution and they were videos of herself.

I remember this one too.. I don't know if I could find the link. I thought it was pretty idiotic.

idiotic on her part or on the part of the police?

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Reck

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Reck
people are such hypocrites in america.

Yup, just here.. nowhere else. Guess you should move out.

i can't think of a single country that makes such a big deal out of teens having sex as america. if you ask people why they feel the way they do, they won't give an argument based upon valid reasoning(like stds, teen pregnancy etc.), but on puritan values and social conditioning. as demonstrated in this thread.

how many of these same americans enjoyed traci lords though? from what i understand she was quite popular in america.

I'll give you a hint.

Alilililililliilili *fires AK47 in the air*

- M4H

*ksssht*

"Terrorists win."

 

[ZoomStop]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: AcidBath
Even 18-20 is really young to allow these girls to begin selling their innocence legally.

Damn, why don't you just go off and join the Taliban, and force women to wear burqas...?

Wow, Taliban? That is harsh. All I meant is, how many dumb things did you do when you were 18/19? Any maybe not their innocence but at least their humility.
A girl can still be in highschool but can perform in a porno?
I'm a pretty conservative guy on issues like these but I don't see how it can be legal for a woman to have sex on video for money when she is still three years shy of buying a legal beer (in the US at least).

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: waggy
yeap. child porn is child porn. does not matter how old you are when released. it matters how old you are when you make it

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: SithSolo1
Not saying it's right but age of concent in GA is 16 so she'd be safe.

age of consent is way different than child porn

 

[sao123]

In the US, the age for which is legally required to pose nude for photographs or participate in any form of recorded pornography is 21.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: AcidBath

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: AcidBath
Even 18-20 is really young to allow these girls to begin selling their innocence legally.

Damn, why don't you just go off and join the Taliban, and force women to wear burqas...?

Wow, Taliban? That is harsh. All I meant is, how many dumb things did you do when you were 18/19? Any maybe not their innocence but at least their humility.
A girl can still be in highschool but can perform in a porno?
I'm a pretty conservative guy on issues like these but I don't see how it can be legal for a woman to have sex on video for money when she is still three years shy of buying a legal beer (in the US at least).

She is a legal adult at 18, and legally allowed to have sex. I have no problem with it whatsoever.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: jiwq

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: broon
Yes. There is currently a case (no link) about a 15 year old girl that has been charged with distribution and they were videos of herself.

I remember this one too.. I don't know if I could find the link. I thought it was pretty idiotic.

idiotic on her part or on the part of the police?

A little of both. IIRC, she posted the pictures to some chat group or something like that. But, then, how do you charge someone with posting nudie pics of themselves, even if they're underage? No victim, no crime.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: sao123
In the US, the age for which is legally required to pose nude for photographs or participate in any form of recorded pornography is 21.

Its 18, actually. Take a look at the disclaimer on just about any porn site.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: AcidBath

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: AcidBath
Even 18-20 is really young to allow these girls to begin selling their innocence legally.

Damn, why don't you just go off and join the Taliban, and force women to wear burqas...?

Wow, Taliban? That is harsh. All I meant is, how many dumb things did you do when you were 18/19? Any maybe not their innocence but at least their humility.
A girl can still be in highschool but can perform in a porno?
I'm a pretty conservative guy on issues like these but I don't see how it can be legal for a woman to have sex on video for money when she is still three years shy of buying a legal beer (in the US at least).

Doesn't mean the other law is any more right (thanks SADD/MADD :confused...

Why is sex the loss of innocence anyway, are all women like deer in the headlights when you pass?

Chicks today are pretty sexually aggressive. They have learned sex is fun and you don't have to be in love or a relationship to enjoy it.

To the main topic...any sex act portraying minors is illegal whether or not the person in the tape is legally of age now. If a third party were to distribute it, then the 'actor/actress' wouldn't be accountable, but if they distributed themselves (even if they were ok during the making of it...it is a crime).

Howver, I think a lot of the laws concerning those 15-16 and older are ironic considering how parents are bringing up their kids.

I dated a lot later in life, and even in 21+ clubs/bars you run into the 16+? girl passing for easily over 18. You can't really tell them to whip out their license, but if you ask the right questions you can get an idea how old they really are.

When I was 18ish I was a hip thrust from nailing a girl that just turned 13, that both my friend (19ish) and his g/f (16) said was 16. She mentioned 'when I get old enough to drive, I want a car like this....' it sucked after that. She was great looking, but still the age thing.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

When I was 18ish I was a hip thrust from nailing a girl that just turned 13, that both my friend (19ish) and his g/f (16) said was 16. She mentioned 'when I get old enough to drive, I want a car like this....' it sucked after that. She was great looking, but still the age thing.

that close, fully naked and you couldnt tell she was 13?
woah.

drink much?

 

[jiwq]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: AcidBath

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: AcidBath
Even 18-20 is really young to allow these girls to begin selling their innocence legally.

Damn, why don't you just go off and join the Taliban, and force women to wear burqas...?

Wow, Taliban? That is harsh. All I meant is, how many dumb things did you do when you were 18/19? Any maybe not their innocence but at least their humility.
A girl can still be in highschool but can perform in a porno?
I'm a pretty conservative guy on issues like these but I don't see how it can be legal for a woman to have sex on video for money when she is still three years shy of buying a legal beer (in the US at least).

I dated a lot later in life, and even in 21+ clubs/bars you run into the 16+? girl passing for easily over 18. You can't really tell them to whip out their license, but if you ask the right questions you can get an idea how old they really are.

That makes me wonder... if you nail a chick that you met in a 21+ club/bar that checks ID and it turns out that it's a 16 y/o girl with fake ID, are there still grounds to charge you with statutory rape?

 

[axnff]

Originally posted by: jiwq
[...]

That makes me wonder... if you nail a chick that you met in a 21+ club/bar that checks ID and it turns out that it's a 16 y/o girl with fake ID, are there still grounds to charge you with statutory rape?

There was a case in the news (Local or National? Can't remember) about that same thing. The person was charged, I don't remember the outcome. I think they go for plea-bargains and soft sentences (probation, 1k hours community service, etc) in cases like that. But you will most certainly get charged if her parents find out....

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: jiwq

That makes me wonder... if you nail a chick that you met in a 21+ club/bar that checks ID and it turns out that it's a 16 y/o girl with fake ID, are there still grounds to charge you with statutory rape?

yes...but in florida 16-24 years old is fair game.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: sao123

that close, fully naked and you couldnt tell she was 13?
woah.

drink much?

Drinking had nothing to do with it. Meet many girls in your time? Age is not so easy to tell.

She was 13, but at least B cupped and developed. Make up goes a long way in adding and taking away age in women.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: broon
Yes. There is currently a case (no link) about a 15 year old girl that has been charged with distribution and they were videos of herself.

I remember this one too.. I don't know if I could find the link. I thought it was pretty idiotic.

Yeah, it was pretty stupid. So she is both the victim and abuser in this case?

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: AcidBath

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: AcidBath
Even 18-20 is really young to allow these girls to begin selling their innocence legally.

Damn, why don't you just go off and join the Taliban, and force women to wear burqas...?

Wow, Taliban? That is harsh. All I meant is, how many dumb things did you do when you were 18/19? Any maybe not their innocence but at least their humility.
A girl can still be in highschool but can perform in a porno?
I'm a pretty conservative guy on issues like these but I don't see how it can be legal for a woman to have sex on video for money when she is still three years shy of buying a legal beer (in the US at least).

18 is the age one becomes an adult and legally responsible for their actions, you can't reasonably heap the responsibility of adulthood on some one while denying them any of its rights or priveledges. If that is what a woman wants to do, that is her choice. The beer thing is not a good example, because logically that should also be 18.

Now if you want to argue whether 18 is an age some one should be legally an adult or not, thats a different matter entirely.

 

[jiwq]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: sao123

that close, fully naked and you couldnt tell she was 13?
woah.

drink much?

Drinking had nothing to do with it. Meet many girls in your time? Age is not so easy to tell.

She was 13, but at least B cupped and developed. Make up goes a long way in adding and taking away age in women.

so you were naked in bed with her and inches away from jailtime, then she tells you she wants a car when she's old enough to drive?

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: alkemyst

When I was 18ish I was a hip thrust from nailing a girl that just turned 13, that both my friend (19ish) and his g/f (16) said was 16. She mentioned 'when I get old enough to drive, I want a car like this....' it sucked after that. She was great looking, but still the age thing.

that close, fully naked and you couldnt tell she was 13?
woah.

drink much?

Do you live in a cave somewhere? Have you seen some of the 13 year olds out there? He didn't say she was 4. Girls seem to be developing earlier and earlier these days, and they certainly aren't dressing more conservatively.

 

[ZoomStop]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: AcidBath

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: AcidBath
Even 18-20 is really young to allow these girls to begin selling their innocence legally.

Damn, why don't you just go off and join the Taliban, and force women to wear burqas...?

Wow, Taliban? That is harsh. All I meant is, how many dumb things did you do when you were 18/19? Any maybe not their innocence but at least their humility.
A girl can still be in highschool but can perform in a porno?
I'm a pretty conservative guy on issues like these but I don't see how it can be legal for a woman to have sex on video for money when she is still three years shy of buying a legal beer (in the US at least).

18 is the age one becomes an adult and legally responsible for their actions, you can't reasonably heap the responsibility of adulthood on some one while denying them any of its rights or priveledges. If that is what a woman wants to do, that is her choice. The beer thing is not a good example, because logically that should also be 18.

Now if you want to argue whether 18 is an age some one should be legally an adult or not, thats a different matter entirely.

You make a good point on this, and it is logical at that.
lol, maybe I just disagree with porn in general

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: jiwq

so you were naked in bed with her and inches away from jailtime, then she tells you she wants a car when she's old enough to drive?

I was in my car with her.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: broon
Yes. There is currently a case (no link) about a 15 year old girl that has been charged with distribution and they were videos of herself.

I remember this one too.. I don't know if I could find the link. I thought it was pretty idiotic.

Yeah, it was pretty stupid. So she is both the victim and abuser in this case?

Not all those in child porn are 'victims'. However, portraying it in public is believed to help cause some become victims due to demand.

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: AcidBath

Originally posted by: Astaroth33

Originally posted by: AcidBath
Even 18-20 is really young to allow these girls to begin selling their innocence legally.

Damn, why don't you just go off and join the Taliban, and force women to wear burqas...?

Wow, Taliban? That is harsh. All I meant is, how many dumb things did you do when you were 18/19? Any maybe not their innocence but at least their humility.
A girl can still be in highschool but can perform in a porno?
I'm a pretty conservative guy on issues like these but I don't see how it can be legal for a woman to have sex on video for money when she is still three years shy of buying a legal beer (in the US at least).

Because US drinking laws are CRAPPY.

Koing