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OILFIELDTRASH said:
Just curious why no one is interested in the fact Bidens son was making 50k a month from an energy company? Also I can't remember the title of his job but it sounded very suspicious to say the least? I can't blame Trump for wanting to know more.
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Just so I understand...

You are wondering why someone seems to have gotten hooked up with a plush gig for which they are unqualified?

And you are asking why wouldn't Trump wants to know.

Do you realize the irony? No clues. I'll let your widdle brain figure it out.
 
HomerJS said:
Just so I understand...

You are wondering why someone seems to have gotten hooked up with a plush gig for which they are unqualified?

And you are asking why wouldn't Trump wants to know.

Do you realize the irony? No clues. I'll let your widdle brain figure it out.
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Trump's kids should be doing life if Biden's son committed an illegality, which he didn't. Meanwhile, Trump has people intimidated in Ukraine for political gain, illegally BTW. That's why Trump needs to be removed, because he's a criminal.
 
Hayabusa Rider said:
Trump's kids should be doing life if Biden's son committed an illegality, which he didn't. Meanwhile, Trump has people intimidated in Ukraine for political gain, illegally BTW. That's why Trump needs to be removed, because he's a criminal.
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It appears that Trump also wanted our own ambassador assassinated, so there is that, too.
 
OILFIELDTRASH said:
Yep. Nothing going on with a presidential candidates son drawing 50k a month from an energy company located in Ukraine. lol
Corrupt as hell, but you guys are trying to impeach the president because he wanted it investigated. So what he put a little pressure on Ukraine? That's what people in power do. He wasn't forcing someone to do sexual favors. He really wanted a little dirty laundry to air.
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What exact crime do you think Hunter broke?
 
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OILFIELDTRASH said:
Yep. Nothing going on with a presidential candidates son drawing 50k a month from an energy company located in Ukraine. lol
Corrupt as hell, but you guys are trying to impeach the president because he wanted it investigated. So what he put a little pressure on Ukraine? That's what people in power do. He wasn't forcing someone to do sexual favors. He really wanted a little dirty laundry to air.
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Trump messed with your mind, huh?
 
Hayabusa Rider said:
Do you have a link to that? I shouldn't be surprised but was it in the documentation?
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Part of the Lev Parnas, Hyde, McCarthy (I think) conversations that were leaked (Whatsapp, I think. ....lol, Whatsapp), where they were exchanging info regarding travel plans and security detail for Yovanovich, while they were over there working to get her out...apparently by "whatever means necessary." We didn't know that until today, right?

Well, this is what they were discussing. We also know that Parnas and Giulliani were over there only on Trump's orders, to do what Trump requested of them (as part of Giulliani's letter to Zalensky, which he quite plainly admitted to, working under all authority and wishes of POTUS).
 
zinfamous said:
It appears that Trump also wanted our own ambassador assassinated, so there is that, too.
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That's not honest. It was Hyde who hinted around about it with Parnas. He's a whackjob wannabee with money to give, so of course Trump & the GOP will indulge him a little to get it.
 
Jhhnn said:
That's not honest. It was Hyde who hinted around about it with Parnas. He's a whackjob wannabee with money to give, so of course Trump & the GOP will indulge him a little to get it.
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That was my take as well. Didn't seem like Parnas wanted to give him the time of day.
 
OILFIELDTRASH said:
Yep. Nothing going on with a presidential candidates son drawing 50k a month from an energy company located in Ukraine. lol
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There is literally nothing wrong with that. He is a private citizen and can take any job he damn well wants. There is literally no evidence or even suspicion that he was doing anything corrupt of illegal. At worst it is a bit of favoritism in order to schmooze a important person, something our current President nakedly engages in. His entire damn family has jobs with the administration. If companies trying to use money to influence politics is illegal or immoral then we have a huge problem in D.C, as there is literally an entire industry dedicated to doing just that.

Corrupt as hell, but you guys are trying to impeach the president because he wanted it investigated. So what he put a little pressure on Ukraine? That's what people in power do. He wasn't forcing someone to do sexual favors. He really wanted a little dirty laundry to air.
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He used the powers of his Office for personal gain. That is literally the definition of corruption. What he did was attempt to undermine our own electoral system. This is not run of the mill corruption, this is a serious danger to our entire form of government and can not be allowed to be normalized.
 
Jhhnn said:
That's not honest. It was Hyde who hinted around about it with Parnas. He's a whackjob wannabee with money to give, so of course Trump & the GOP will indulge him a little to get it.
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In the TRMS interview last night, Parnas did indeed try to separate himself from Mr. Hyde. I might believe him, but he was very circumspect in his answers to this particular subject because I think Ms. Yavanovich is going to have quite the civil suit against him and who else was involved.
 
ch33zw1z said:
Seems reporters are now being restricted in their access. I have to say, this is definitely the most transparent admin, ever. /s

www.npr.org

Reporters Challenge New Restrictions In Trying To Cover Senate Impeachment Trial

Authorities are cracking down on the places correspondents may go, with whom they may talk and for how long. News outlets don't want to go along.
www.npr.org www.npr.org
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I actually like the idea of some isolation from the press to try to keep Senators focused on their duty and isolated (relatively) from the influence of public opinion where it conflicts with said duty and the interest of the country. Of course, nothing about what Republican leadership in the Senate has said or done leads me to believe that this is their interest in taking such a step. Rather, it seems they seek to isolate the public from their dereliction of duty.
 
OILFIELDTRASH said:
Yep. Nothing going on with a presidential candidates son drawing 50k a month from an energy company located in Ukraine. lol
Corrupt as hell, but you guys are trying to impeach the president because he wanted it investigated. So what he put a little pressure on Ukraine? That's what people in power do. He wasn't forcing someone to do sexual favors. He really wanted a little dirty laundry to air.
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He didn't want it investigated. He wanted Ukraine to only announce an investigation into the Bidens, his main political rival. Can you understand that he is using whatever means possible to win re-election, including illegal means? Can you name one other instance where the president is concerned about corruption, and is actively having it investigated? Can you tell me what the president is directing his intelligence services to do to try and stop further election meddling by the Russians? Do you understand that election meddling is not okay, and not everyone does it?
 
interchange said:
I actually like the idea of some isolation from the press to try to keep Senators focused on their duty and isolated (relatively) from the influence of public opinion where it conflicts with said duty and the interest of the country. Of course, nothing about what Republican leadership in the Senate has said or done leads me to believe that this is their interest in taking such a step. Rather, it seems they seek to isolate the public from their dereliction of duty.
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Ideally, the isolation would mean they're working hard for the electorate. Realistically, yea...you know.
 
interchange said:
I actually like the idea of some isolation from the press to try to keep Senators focused on their duty and isolated (relatively) from the influence of public opinion where it conflicts with said duty and the interest of the country. Of course, nothing about what Republican leadership in the Senate has said or done leads me to believe that this is their interest in taking such a step. Rather, it seems they seek to isolate the public from their dereliction of duty.
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Yessir, the more The People know about Trump's crimes against them the more it hurts McConnell's chances of ramrodding his kangaroo court agenda down everyone's throats.

There isn't a single shred of actual hard evidence that the Repubs could produce in the House inquiry in defense of Trump and the crimes he was shown in convincing fashion to have committed. I suspect the same thing will happen in his Senate trial.
 
tweaker2 said:
Yessir, the more The People know about Trump's crimes against them the more it hurts McConnell's chances of ramrodding his kangaroo court agenda down everyone's throats.

There isn't a single shred of actual hard evidence that the Repubs could produce in the House inquiry in defense of Trump and the crimes he was shown in convincing fashion to have committed. I suspect the same thing will happen in his Senate trial.
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Exactly why they want to conduct a trial without any witnesses, as any honest witnesses would destroy every ounce of defense Trump "thinks" he has.
 
NWRMidnight said:
Exactly why they want to conduct a trial without any witnesses, as any honest witnesses would destroy every ounce of defense Trump "thinks" he has.
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That and also the terrifying horrific idea of Trump's own inner circle of capodecinas being swore in to tell the truth when the truth will incriminate them the moment they get put on the grill and speak nothing but the truth, plead the 5th or lie their asses off in pre-planned concerted fashion.

The truth of the matter at hand and getting it exposed is what The People deserve, but it's something Moscow Mitch and his merry band of Repub colleagues and their sympathetic constituencies absolutely do not want revealed in all its incriminating glory.
 
www.politico.com

Trump finally gets his TV-ready lawyers — thanks to impeachment

The president tapped a lineup of celebrity lawyers, including some who spent years needling the Clintons, for his Senate impeachment trial.
www.politico.com www.politico.com

It’s a who’s-who list of legal heavyweights, including former Bill Clinton special prosecutors Kenneth Starr and Robert Ray, plus retired Harvard constitutional law professor Alan Dershowitz. Each will have specific speaking roles during the upcoming trial, which begins in earnest on Tuesday, while serving as clean-up hitters behind White House counsel Pat Cipollone and Jay Sekulow, Trump’s longtime personal attorney.
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The bottom of the sewer has been trudged up.

I bet $100 worth of Russian hooker pee that Trump will issue the following orders to these steaming bags of shit:
"Ken, you need to tell them how Clinton, is guilty, OK? Explain to all the people who are watching this witch hunt, that Clinton, OK, Clinton is guilty. Tell them."

"Alan. You have to got to tell everybody who is watching this, that without a doubt, I am not a pedophile, nor did I order the execution of Jeff Epstein - I don't even know him! Everyone is wondering why I am being brought up with Jeff in the same sentence! It's crazy how the Democrats have started this lie of how Melania is a former prostitute that I met and married through Epstein... I mean, there is NO proof that I know Jeff! Tell them Alan!"
 
ShookKnight said:
www.politico.com

Trump finally gets his TV-ready lawyers — thanks to impeachment

The president tapped a lineup of celebrity lawyers, including some who spent years needling the Clintons, for his Senate impeachment trial.
www.politico.com www.politico.com



The bottom of the sewer has been trudged up.
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Yeah..what a murderer's row we have in the new additions to Trump's dream legal team.

Allen Dershowitz - who luckily 'kept his underwear on' for all those massages with Jeffery Epstein. Did a heckuva job leading Epstein's defense. Epstein was never found guilty. So he's got that going for him.

Ken Starr - who called White House window washers and a dentist in for questioning in the Clinton affair. The same guy is now saying no new material witnesses should be allowed. Added bonus - Baylor rape coverup, and of course, another attorney for Jeffery Epstein.

Pamela Bondi - infamous for being the Fla. AG who dismissed the case against the fraudulent Trump University, shortly after receiving 25k from Trump's fraudulent charitable foundation. Buddy of Lev Parnas, because why not.

Robert Ray - took over the various investigations of Clinton from Ken Starr. Arrested in 2006 for stalking a former companion.

The crime syndicate is closing ranks, as expected. Seems like a reputation-laundering operation to me. Senate republicans abdicate their duty and cancel the impeachment, and these dirtbags are rehabilitated as defenders of justice.
 
VRAMdemon said:
Yeah..what a murderer's row we have in the new additions to Trump's dream legal team.

Allen Dershowitz - who luckily 'kept his underwear on' for all those massages with Jeffery Epstein. Did a heckuva job leading Epstein's defense. Epstein was never found guilty. So he's got that going for him.

Ken Starr - who called White House window washers and a dentist in for questioning in the Clinton affair. The same guy is now saying no new material witnesses should be allowed. Added bonus - Baylor rape coverup, and of course, another attorney for Jeffery Epstein.

Pamela Bondi - infamous for being the Fla. AG who dismissed the case against the fraudulent Trump University, shortly after receiving 25k from Trump's fraudulent charitable foundation. Buddy of Lev Parnas, because why not.

Robert Ray - took over the various investigations of Clinton from Ken Starr. Arrested in 2006 for stalking a former companion.

The crime syndicate is closing ranks, as expected. Seems like a reputation-laundering operation to me. Senate republicans abdicate their duty and cancel the impeachment, and these dirtbags are rehabilitated as defenders of justice.
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The guy that likes to strip down to his underoos while young girls message him isn't defending trump, he's defending the constitution.




The Russian constitution😛
 
Ds should call Rs bluff and let them subpeona Hunter if they can call Lev and Bolton.

Don't act afraid. Play to win
 
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