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VRAMdemon

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It will forever blow my mind that there wasn’t a single solitary Republican rep who had the integrity to do the right thing.

The best outcome would be conviction by the Senate, of course. But second-best would be to leave Trump in limbo - impeached but not “exonerated” - forever.
 

VRAMdemon

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Gabbard runs as an independent in 2020, aided by Russian propaganda. Exactly what impact she would have on the race isn't clear, though. If and when she runs a conspiracy theory campaign, she might actually take away some votes from Trump.
 

Zivic

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If you think your facts can invalidate my facts then bring it, otherwise stop projecting.

Fact #1: in 2016 the dem candidate received more votes than trump.

Fact #2: in 2016 republicans turned out in record numbers and still only had 63 million votes.

Fact #3: in 2016 73 million people didn’t vote for trump.

Fact #4: trump’s electoral victory came from less than 80k total votes.

Fact #5: trumps approval rating among republicans has remained at 90% throughout his presidency while his overall approval rate has remained consistently low and around 40%.

What all this says is that trumps base isn’t going anywhere and that democrats have a much larger potential to gain more voters than they did in 2016, especially if voter turn out levels remain at 2018 levels which there is no reason to believe it won’t.

Let’s see your facts bubble boy.
1-4 are bs... He was elected by the process we have in place.

His approval ratings are increasing and exceed the 40% you claim. Going into the vote last night the polls show the majority of Americans opposed impeachment. I was reading that we currently have longest economic expansiob in history. Americans have it good right now and they know it.

At the end of the day the left has absolutely nothing... So much so they looked to impeachment as a hollow victory to take back home with them. Technically it "something".

There will be no conviction. Trump with win big in '20 and they will try to impeach him again. I joke that he will be impeached at least twice... Maybe that isn't funny?
 

ivwshane

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1-4 are bs... He was elected by the process we have in place.

His approval ratings are increasing and exceed the 40% you claim. Going into the vote last night the polls show the majority of Americans opposed impeachment. I was reading that we currently have longest economic expansiob in history. Americans have it good right now and they know it.

At the end of the day the left has absolutely nothing... So much so they looked to impeachment as a hollow victory to take back home with them. Technically it "something".

There will be no conviction. Trump with win big in '20 and they will try to impeach him again. I joke that he will be impeached at least twice... Maybe that isn't funny?

Ahahahahahaha!

More feels from triggered righties! Thanks for the laugh guy. You really showed me who has the command of the facts!

Enjoy your vodka.
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
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1-4 are bs... He was elected by the process we have in place.

His approval ratings are increasing and exceed the 40% you claim. Going into the vote last night the polls show the majority of Americans opposed impeachment. I was reading that we currently have longest economic expansiob in history. Americans have it good right now and they know it.

At the end of the day the left has absolutely nothing... So much so they looked to impeachment as a hollow victory to take back home with them. Technically it "something".

There will be no conviction. Trump with win big in '20 and they will try to impeach him again. I joke that he will be impeached at least twice... Maybe that isn't funny?
Newtons 3rd dude. Newtons 3rd.
 

brycejones

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1-4 are bs... He was elected by the process we have in place.

His approval ratings are increasing and exceed the 40% you claim. Going into the vote last night the polls show the majority of Americans opposed impeachment. I was reading that we currently have longest economic expansiob in history. Americans have it good right now and they know it.

At the end of the day the left has absolutely nothing... So much so they looked to impeachment as a hollow victory to take back home with them. Technically it "something".

There will be no conviction. Trump with win big in '20 and they will try to impeach him again. I joke that he will be impeached at least twice... Maybe that isn't funny?
It isn’t funny when the president doesn’t believe there are any limits on his powers and he continues to act in more and more extreme ways while members of his own party who would lose their shit if a Democrat did the same things continue to defend and allow him to continue.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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This whole thing took the GOP on the blindside. Dems have controlled the tempo & put it to Trump mercilessly. They have the goods on Trump & everybody knows it. Now it's time to deliver. To delay would just play into the narrative that it's political rather than an urgent need to cleanse the office of the criminal now occupying it.

Righteous indignation is what we need more of & this will provoke a lot of it.

Apparently Nancy doesn't agree with you.

Pelosi isn't going to commit to passing control to the Senate.
She seems to be concerned about premature delivery and seeks to do her duty well.
 

SteveGrabowski

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It will forever blow my mind that there wasn’t a single solitary Republican rep who had the integrity to do the right thing.

The best outcome would be conviction by the Senate, of course. But second-best would be to leave Trump in limbo - impeached but not “exonerated” - forever.

Why would it blow your mind that the GOP is a cess pool? Funny one of the big rats just announced he's fleeing their ship.

 

kage69

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Jul 17, 2003
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Treasonous repug acquittal in the Senate won't save him in 2020, but I'm OK with Pelosi denying them the opportunity. Republicans have been flouting rules and procedure for years now. What goes around comes around. Get your hanky Miss Lindsey, and I'll locate my quantum violin.

Oh and Merrick Garland sends his regards.
 
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HomerJS

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1-4 are bs... He was elected by the process we have in place.

His approval ratings are increasing and exceed the 40% you claim. Going into the vote last night the polls show the majority of Americans opposed impeachment. I was reading that we currently have longest economic expansiob in history. Americans have it good right now and they know it.

At the end of the day the left has absolutely nothing... So much so they looked to impeachment as a hollow victory to take back home with them. Technically it "something".

There will be no conviction. Trump with win big in '20 and they will try to impeach him again. I joke that he will be impeached at least twice... Maybe that isn't funny?
Bolded is an outright lie. Interesting you seem to think it is ok for a President using taxpayer money and the power of his office to extort a foreign leader to obtain political dirt on an opponent. I guess if Obama had held up aid to Israel in 2016 until the Mousad got a copy of the Trump pee u cool wit dat?
 

fskimospy

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1-4 are bs... He was elected by the process we have in place.

His approval ratings are increasing and exceed the 40% you claim. Going into the vote last night the polls show the majority of Americans opposed impeachment. I was reading that we currently have longest economic expansiob in history. Americans have it good right now and they know it.

You realize Trump is the most enduringly unpopular president in history, right?

At the end of the day the left has absolutely nothing... So much so they looked to impeachment as a hollow victory to take back home with them. Technically it "something".

There will be no conviction. Trump with win big in '20 and they will try to impeach him again. I joke that he will be impeached at least twice... Maybe that isn't funny?

At the end of the day what the left has is that Trump tried to use the powers of his office to have foreign powers investigate his political rivals. Anyone with a shred of dignity and loyalty to their country should immediately recognize that is a gross abuse of power and that anyone who does that should be removed from office.

This isn’t complicated, the president is a criminal and criminals shouldn’t be president.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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1-4 are bs... He was elected by the process we have in place.

His approval ratings are increasing and exceed the 40% you claim. Going into the vote last night the polls show the majority of Americans opposed impeachment. I was reading that we currently have longest economic expansiob in history. Americans have it good right now and they know it.

At the end of the day the left has absolutely nothing... So much so they looked to impeachment as a hollow victory to take back home with them. Technically it "something".

There will be no conviction. Trump with win big in '20 and they will try to impeach him again. I joke that he will be impeached at least twice... Maybe that isn't funny?

Those aren't BS. they are unassailable facts. Counting numbers is counting numbers.

do you disagree?

Also, polling shows a majority that supports impeachment. That is a fact.

So in your post:

--decided that a quantifiable number is not a number.
--lied about another number

I wonder from where you source your information, because you aren't dealing with the one set of facts that we have to deal with.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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When this becomes your argument, I'd say you're on the losing side of the issue. And you've decidedly lost the plot.

one issue with this insane statement, is claiming that Jesus was "falsely accused" of Treason. That's fucking horseshit. It was absolute treason. In the Roman Empire, the Emperor is god. (or perhaps more like the Pope, but more better...)

Jesus' crime of claiming to be God, and the son of God, and to speak for God, and all that convoluted jibber-jabber, was absolute treason as defined by Roman law. There is no false accusation, it was very much a high crime--WHICH IS THE FUCKING POINT OF JESUS.

Fucking Christ: Republicans are the most ignorant, illiterate, pretenders to everything they claim to hold dear.
 

IronWing

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Jul 20, 2001
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I think Trump should refuse to sign the continuing resolution until the House advances the impeachment bill against him. :p

Edit: I guess the Senate hasn't passed the CR yet.
 

HomerJS

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Feb 6, 2002
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Nancy should end run Mitch go directly to Trump and say "You want exoneration? Bringing on fact witnesses is your best chance. What do ya say Donnie."
 

[DHT]Osiris

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I think Trump should refuse to sign the continuing resolution until the House advances the impeachment bill against him. :p
That's fine. The house is effectively not able to get anything accomplished as long as the great turtle refuses to put any house bills to the senate, so might as well just gridlock the whole fucking thing until 2020.

Can't be worse than what we've got now.
 
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fskimospy

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So Trump just brought up his son Barron during his rally last night and in an actually disparaging way, unlike what the witness during the impeachment hearing did.

Surely Starbuck and conservatives here will be rushing to condemn Trump for this.
 

kage69

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Jul 17, 2003
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The guy who publicly stated he doesn't want to hear evidence is bitching?

Quite the supporter of oversight, checks and balances, isn't he? Totally. Yep, the guy who breaks Senate Judiciary Rules to push an anti-asylum effort thinks this is all really unfair to him and his traitor boss. The repug affliction of no self-awareness, their addiction to utter hypocrisy and projection, just, wow. NIH should be studying these people.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Honestly, I'm fine with it at this point. Let them take it to the SCOTUS. They wanted the judicial branch involved, right?

Yep they wanted shit but now they have it. On what Constitutional basis would the SCOTUS force, and force is important, to not follow it's own path when "The House shall have the sole power of Impeachment"? This is merely part of that power and there's no mandate they comply with Graham's wishes.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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I think Trump should refuse to sign the continuing resolution until the House advances the impeachment bill against him. :p

Edit: I guess the Senate hasn't passed the CR yet.

I expect they won't and that will certainly make Trump and Mitch even more popular/s
 

ewdotson

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That's fine. The house is effectively not able to get anything accomplished as long as the great turtle refuses to put any house bills to the senate, so might as well just gridlock the whole fucking thing until 2020.

Can't be worse than what we've got now.
You mean, except for the millions of federal employees and contractors who wouldn't be getting paid, right?