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esquared said:
Another bit of praise from some I didnt expect.
GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz praised Democrats' impeachment presentation and skewered Trump's defense as looking like 'an 8th-grade book report'

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GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz praised Democrats' impeachment presentation and skewered Trump's defense as looking like 'an 8th-grade book report'

"Actually, no, I take that back," Gaetz told Politico, adding that an eighth-grader would know how to use PowerPoint and iPads.
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Meanwhile, the defense team's case looked like "an eighth-grade book report," Gaetz told Politico. "Actually, no, I take that back," he said, adding that an eighth-grader would know how to use PowerPoint and iPads.
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What to watch for next:
"If the President had had a competent defense team, this thing wouldn't look so awful. I can't convict simply because the President was denied an adequate defense."
 
Make sure you call the Washington DC offices of the Senators from your state. Demand a vote for documents and witnesses. Phone numbers easy to find. Overwhelming their offices is the most effective way of communicating the opinion of citizens.

If you can't find your specific number the Capital switchboard is (202) 224-3121. They will connect you to the office of choice.

Do it ASAP. Vote on witnesses and documents will likely happen after defense presentation next week
 
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UNCjigga said:
Not sure how sincere this quote really is. Sen. Kennedy is a proven POS liar and is likely to not mean a word of this 5 minutes later. But for the moment, he speaks truth:

www.rawstory.com

Conservative senator hints impeachment trial may be moving Republicans: GOP caucus has ‘learned a lot’

Senate Republicans are learning a great deal during the impeachment trial, according to one conservative senator. Nicholas Fandos spoke with Sen. John Kennedy (R-LA) during a break in the trial.Kennedy is one of Trump's biggest defenders, even though he ran for Lousiana attorney general, state...
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“I’ve learned a lot. Everybody has. Senators didn’t know the case,” Kennedy admitted. “They really didn’t.”
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[referencing the House proceedings] “We didn’t stay glued to the television. We haven’t read the transcripts,” he explained.

“Those of you who have sat through a trial before know that there are peaks and valleys. A trial is a narrative. It’s a story and to really evaluate the consequences of the story you have to get the story,” he added.
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Which channel did he say this on? If this was for CNN I can see him saying that...if it was on Fox...no way lol
 
UNCjigga said:
I know that. You know that. Graham hasn’t changed his mind and will vote to acquit Trump. But the brainless chuds see a Republican respecting a Democrat and they can’t have it.
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That is because Trump has been hammering in that Democrats are not just the opposition, nor are they merely wrong, they are the enemy and are evil. Conservitives now view what Graham did like congratulating an enemy general for a masterful attack on our forces.
 
Roberts has listened for days to members of Trump's defense team speaking outright lies.:

During his opening remarks at the Senate removal trial of Donald Trump, White House Counsel Pat Cipollone lied. Repeatedly. Cipollone said that Republicans were not allowed in the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility to participate in depositions taken during the House’s impeachment investigation. That is a demonstrable lie. He accused Representative Adam Schiff of having “manufactured” a “false version” of Trump’s phone call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky. That’s not true. He played fast and loose with the timeline around the Zelensky call, alleging a controversy over the first phone call that never happened. ...

... we haven’t seen the Trump people lie so brazenly in court, or something that appears to be court. We haven’t seen them lie after oaths have been taken. A lot of people thought that a trial presided over by the chief justice of the United States would be the moment where the lying stopped....

If you read the rules for this trial, as transmitted by Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell, you’ll note that there’s no penalty for “lying.” There is not even a procedure to determine if somebody has lied.

In a normal trial, the judge is empowered to stop advocates like Cipollone from openly and obviously lying to the court and the jury. In a normal trial, the judge would have been empowered to cut Cipollone off, mid-lie if necessary, and demand that he “approach the bench.” There, he’d be admonished for lying to the jury. If he continued with the lie or did it again, a judge could hold Cipollone in contempt, or even declare a “mistrial” and force the whole process to start again.

Chief Justice John Roberts has no such power here.
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https://www.thenation.com/article/cipollone-impeachment-lies/

In addition to the blatant lying, Roberts is also witnessing the Senators' contempt for the 'stay silent' instructions read out by the Sergeant at Arms each day. They may not be gabbing in the chamber, but they're gabbing plenty outside, including giving FoxNews interviews. Plus he gets to watch them get up and leave, or if seated, play with fidget spinners or work crossword puzzles.

So I'm hoping that Roberts is disgusted and can't imagine anyone conducting themselves this way in a Supreme Court oral-argument session
 
VRAMdemon said:
Roberts has listened for days to members of Trump's defense team speaking outright lies.:



https://www.thenation.com/article/cipollone-impeachment-lies/

In addition to the blatant lying, Roberts is also witnessing the Senators' contempt for the 'stay silent' instructions read out by the Sergeant at Arms each day. They may not be gabbing in the chamber, but they're gabbing plenty outside, including giving FoxNews interviews. Plus he gets to watch them get up and leave, or if seated, play with fidget spinners or work crossword puzzles.

So I'm hoping that Roberts is disgusted and can't imagine anyone conducting themselves this way in a Supreme Court oral-argument session
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I am betting on Roberts being just as willing to save us as Mueller was.
 
Moreover, this contention that what Trump did is perfectly normal foreign policy is at odds with the sworn testimony of Trump’s own ambassadors and foreign policy advisors who testified, under oath, that the policy (as well as the phone call) was so troubling that they contacted lawyers, threatened to resign, and were publicly critical of it.

I guess i'm forgetting that Sondman et al. are deep state anti-Trump moles or something. Trump has never met them and barely knows them!
 
dank69 said:
I am betting on Roberts being just as willing to save us as Mueller was.
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That’s only slightly unfair—he went into the process with one foot out the door, and wants to be as removed from the politics as possible. He doesn’t believe his role should have any influence on the debate or decisions—he’s merely there to facilitate the process. He’s basically equivalent to the Parliamentarian of the House in terms of his influence.
 
UNCjigga said:
Let’s see if they get hoisted with their own retards.
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Hoisted with their own retards? Wait a minute..

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...never mind.
 
TheOnlySuperdog said:
Maybe, but how can you have an "impartial" jury when the jurors are constantly being threatened? This is what bugs me most about all of this. Not just the pressure from their party, but by the defendant himself.

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You would think it was a story out of Russia........ sorry. Too soon?
 
“I’ve learned a lot. Everybody has. Senators didn’t know the case,” Kennedy admitted. “They really didn’t.”



Riiiight...

"Doing our fucking jobs; we really weren't"
 
VRAMdemon said:
Roberts has listened for days to members of Trump's defense team speaking outright lies.:
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To be fair Trump's defense team has taken no oath to be truthful, and as this is not even a legal proceeding but a political one, there is not even the normal requirements that they argue in good faith and not knowingly contend something they know to be untrue.

So I'm hoping that Roberts is disgusted and can't imagine anyone conducting themselves this way in a Supreme Court oral-argument session
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Oral arguments before the SCOTUS are legal proceedings and as such require that the lawyers follow a set of rules of conduct laid down in law and by the BAR association.
 
amp.cnn.com

Letter shows White House wouldn’t provide documents to agency investigating Ukraine aid | CNN Politics

The White House refused to provide documents to a nonpartisan congressional watchdog investigating President Donald Trump’s decision to withhold US security aid to Ukraine, according to documents released by Democratic Sen. Chris Van Hollen of Maryland on Thursday.
amp.cnn.com amp.cnn.com

Remember, next time you murder someone at home and the police come knocking.... Just refuse to open the door. Problem solved.
 
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