Fraternities are not real life but the leadership learned in elected offices translates well to real life.
Anubis
No Lifer
this is funny but controlling 40 or so 12-20 year olds on a computer game is somewhat harder then most of you think it is
The same could be said for guild leaders.
Of all the arguments in this thread, this was probably the worst. Granted some Frats are actually academic or business, or science oriented, but a grand majority of them are party houses.
You are obviously a frat boy who took his pledge a bit too seriously and are getting pretty defensive.
Let's call a spade a spade here. Frats are great and they are a good time and they can do some really good stuff, but they are barely a club, and much more a group of acquaintances and friends.
Speaking as an Alum of a Huge Frat school
Sure, I took my pledging and time in the fraternity seriously. I'm an alumni brother of Alpha Phi Omega, a service fraternity. I spent my time in the elected offices making sure service projects were adequetly staffed and funded, organizing new projects, staying in contact with community leaders & other volunteer organizations, etc... You're damn right I took that seriously (and still do).
MMOs might not be real life, but you are still trying to manage a large group of REAL people, through voicechat to do one thing. it's easier than being in person, but if it is all the guy has got, it is a start.
Are people ACTUALLY arguing that a computer game is somehow equal to real life experiences?
If there are any politicians in here, take note of this, and BAN WoW. Do it NOW. These kids are f*cked.
If there are any politicians in here, take note of this, and BAN WoW. Do it NOW. These kids are f*cked.
I bet your castle walls didnt use uniform colors for its walls, and it would have failed fundamental foundation tests.
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EQTitan
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Leadership skills:
- 4years as a dungeon master for the 3rd series of Dungeons and dragons
- 12 years MMO Raid leader
- Sex Ed teacher for all my little gnome friends
Activites/Leadership Roles:
- Actively moving miniature figurines around a card board cut out
- Commanding 10~40 people around a virtual cave with 3D dragons
- Doinking all the princess maidens I could with my hoe made sheep skin condoms
References:
- Sleepy, Grumpy, Dopey, Happy, Jo-bob, & the guy who showered every week
- tig.guildomatic.com
- Princess Lilpuss of Airedire marsh
Enjoy!!!
- 4years as a dungeon master for the 3rd series of Dungeons and dragons
- 12 years MMO Raid leader
- Sex Ed teacher for all my little gnome friends
Activites/Leadership Roles:
- Actively moving miniature figurines around a card board cut out
- Commanding 10~40 people around a virtual cave with 3D dragons
- Doinking all the princess maidens I could with my hoe made sheep skin condoms
References:
- Sleepy, Grumpy, Dopey, Happy, Jo-bob, & the guy who showered every week
- tig.guildomatic.com
- Princess Lilpuss of Airedire marsh
Enjoy!!!
Yeah I think if he is able to get 40 people to be in raid on time, do their role, and control them on vent for 5 hours straight daily, then I will say at least he can talk pretty well and have a clear head. Don't dismiss him for putting it there but do ask him how big a guild he runs.
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I'm sorry, but I'm reading resumes right now, trying to fill a position, and if I saw that on any of the resumes I would laugh, and before throwing it out I would take it to my boss so we could both laugh together.
KT
KT
SneakyStuff
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Originally posted by: KaOTiK
I'd ask for a link to the guilds website, see how accomplished they are and go from there
Yes if the guild sucks you should beware :laugh:
Plenty of fraternities have been put on probation by campuses because they fucked up. Try not use movies and TV shows as your interpretations of the real world and get out there. You'd be surprised!
Anubis
No Lifer
we talking all schools or 1 school because if its all schools its very easy to get to 20
at my school which was small (2200 students) in my 4 years there 5 greek houses were booted off campus, which was like 1/3 of the total number of greek houses
1 had a national chapter review where they debrotherized like 90% of the frat
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News flash, everything you do in life whether it is on a computer, in person, or even in your mind hones different skills.
Part of the problem with a guild leadership is that a lot of guilds are completely useless. Your guild could have 400 people, but you've never accomplished a single useful thing. Your guild could have 5 people, but you've got the top 5 pvp players in the game with extremely good teamwork (although teamwork would be more impressive in an FPS). When you've got a guild spread across multiple time zones and you've instituted an effective DKP system and you've got people working together flawlessly and tackling content, yes you are doing a damn good job, probably better than 90% of the project managers I've dealt with, in fact, easily better. I knew some guilds in Everquest that were really run like a freaking organization. It's no surprise that guild leaders from EQ ended up working jobs in the gaming world.
Hell, there are many things I'm personally proud of that I've accomplished. But you'll never, ever see me put any of that shit on my resume. It's not because I'm embarrassed, it's because I realize the common person reading and evaluating this paper will either have negative preconceived notions or they simply won't know what the hell I'm talking about.
Part of the problem with a guild leadership is that a lot of guilds are completely useless. Your guild could have 400 people, but you've never accomplished a single useful thing. Your guild could have 5 people, but you've got the top 5 pvp players in the game with extremely good teamwork (although teamwork would be more impressive in an FPS). When you've got a guild spread across multiple time zones and you've instituted an effective DKP system and you've got people working together flawlessly and tackling content, yes you are doing a damn good job, probably better than 90% of the project managers I've dealt with, in fact, easily better. I knew some guilds in Everquest that were really run like a freaking organization. It's no surprise that guild leaders from EQ ended up working jobs in the gaming world.
Hell, there are many things I'm personally proud of that I've accomplished. But you'll never, ever see me put any of that shit on my resume. It's not because I'm embarrassed, it's because I realize the common person reading and evaluating this paper will either have negative preconceived notions or they simply won't know what the hell I'm talking about.
Anubis
No Lifer
polarmystery
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I think you just proved everyone wrong in this thread. Kudos :thumbsup:
(And yeah I used to play WoW but I gave my account away. There are mature facets to the game and being a guild leader I would think is one of them "if" and only "if" you were reputable like Nihilim or some other guild like that)
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