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The problem lies with people who pilot a boat, and do not know basic boat rules or safety. Whether its a boat owner, or someone who rents a boat, they need to know the rules, just like driving a car.

Last weekend a nature group that I am a member of made a canoe trip down a local river. There were people in bass boats that went flying past us, with little regard to their wakes.
 
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This seems appropriate for this thread:
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Cop: So you were hit by a drunk driver?

Cyclist: Yeah he came out of no where and took me out, good think this rented bike isnt too banged up.

Cop: Wait...you rented a bike? You pussy, laws don't apply to you, the drunk driver had the right to hit you. Hell he should have been going faster.

Cyclist: What? He hit me and it was clearly his fault!

Cop: No you don't understand, you rented a bike.

Cyclist: So?

Cop: Sir, you just don't understand the law. If you rent something all of your rights are null and void.


This is what I understood of Alky's arguments in this thread...
 
Scout Dorado 185 (18.5') w/ 90hp Honda.

See, I can claim to own stuff my dad has the title to as well.

Jules is completely right on the merits of renting v. owning in a situation like this. I don't think he's going out weekly and renting a 22ft'er and therefore the costs of owning a boat which requires a slip isn't justified. Hell, the only reason my dad has held onto our Scout was because it can be trailered. Right now it's sitting in my grandmother's driveway.
 
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Troll troll troll your boat...
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roguerower said:
Scout Dorado 185 (18.5') w/ 90hp Honda.

See, I can claim to own stuff my dad has the title to as well.

Jules is completely right on the merits of renting v. owning in a situation like this. I don't think he's going out weekly and renting a 22ft'er and therefore the costs of owning a boat which requires a slip isn't justified. Hell, the only reason my dad has held onto our Scout was because it can be trailered. Right now it's sitting in my grandmother's driveway.
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Indeed, and a trailerable 22' sailboat would require a pickup or SUV, so that's a no-go for jules 😀
 
skyking said:
Indeed, and a trailerable 22' sailboat would require a pickup or SUV, so that's a no-go for jules 😀
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Believe me, I've considered buying and trailering a boat but a) I have no way to tow it, and, b) I have nowhere to store it when it is not in use. Plus you have to factor in time to set the boat up to go in the water (put the mast up, take it down after etc). By renting I can just drive down to the marina, hop on the boat and we're off 15 minutes after we arrive.

If I bought a sailboat I'd probably go with one I could keep at a marina in the water all the time but for a 30' boat it would cost close to $500/month just for slip fees so I'd probably want to do a partnership with 1 or 2 friends if we did that.

To rent here I had to submit my sailing resume and take a written test that covers boating terminology, right of way questions, etc. It wasn't a long test but it did focus on those two topics mostly. They also had me sail the rental boat away from the dock, go out, come about, and sail back to the dock area just so that I would be aware of how they want it done when we returned at the end of the day.

A novice would be required to take one of their sailing courses and take one out with a skipper to demonstrate his/her ability to safely handle the boat before he/she would be allowed to do a bareboat rental. They rent sailboats up to 41' in length.
 
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Yeah probably best you just rent if $500 a month is going to be too much for a boat budget.

just fuel costs were hitting $400ish staying close to shore....storage about another few hundred (dry storage)...and of course drinks for everyone.

Those boat rental place classes are funny stuff though.

It's nice to be able to just go out on a whim and whenever you want and come back whenever you want.
 
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Yeah probably best you just rent if $500 a month is going to be too much for a boat budget.

just fuel costs were hitting $400ish staying close to shore....storage about another few hundred (dry storage)...and of course drinks for everyone.

Those boat rental place classes are funny stuff though.

It's nice to be able to just go out on a whim and whenever you want and come back whenever you want.
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That's just the slip fee after you buy a boat. A 30' sailboat would run anywhere between $10,000-50,000+ depending on age and condition plus $6000 a year in slip fees plus maintenance and upkeep. I could rent a lot of boats for that kind of change. I've rented sailboats 6 times this year (split the cost with a friend most of those times) for a total cost of around $400.

You're like the guy who goes out and buys a $70,000 motorhome because he goes camping once a year for a week at a time. You can rent those too by the way. If you don't use them, they are a total waste of money IMO...and many people don't use boats enough to justify the cost (that's the accountant in me I guess). Unless you live aboard or have ridiculous amounts of disposable income it just doesn't make sense.

I'm sure you light your cigars with $100 bills though so that's chump change for a baller like you.

Did you buy your M3 yet?
 
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That's just the slip fee after you buy a boat. A 30' sailboat would run anywhere between $10,000-50,000+ depending on age and condition plus $6000 a year in slip fees plus maintenance and upkeep. I could rent a lot of boats for that kind of change. I've rented sailboats 6 times this year (split the cost with a friend most of those times) for a total cost of around $400.

You're like the guy who goes out and buys a $70,000 motorhome because he goes camping once a year for a week at a time. You can rent those too by the way. If you don't use them, they are a total waste of money IMO...and many people don't use boats enough to justify the cost (that's the accountant in me I guess). Unless you live aboard or have ridiculous amounts of disposable income it just doesn't make sense.

I'm sure you light your cigars with $100 bills though so that's chump change for a baller like you.

Did you buy your M3 yet?
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Well no you see because if he rents the motorhome he no longer has any legal rights, cars could just slam into him because he is renting.
 
JulesMaximus said:
That's just the slip fee after you buy a boat. A 30' sailboat would run anywhere between $10,000-50,000+ depending on age and condition plus $6000 a year in slip fees plus maintenance and upkeep. I could rent a lot of boats for that kind of change. I've rented sailboats 6 times this year (split the cost with a friend most of those times) for a total cost of around $400.

You're like the guy who goes out and buys a $70,000 motorhome because he goes camping once a year for a week at a time. You can rent those too by the way. If you don't use them, they are a total waste of money IMO...and many people don't use boats enough to justify the cost (that's the accountant in me I guess). Unless you live aboard or have ridiculous amounts of disposable income it just doesn't make sense.

I'm sure you light your cigars with $100 bills though so that's chump change for a baller like you.

Did you buy your M3 yet?
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Not sure if I am getting an M3 or not...won't be home for a few more weeks though.

However; someone comparing traffic laws to boating laws clearly is a genius. You win the internet.
 
alkemyst said:
Yeah probably best you just rent if $500 a month is going to be too much for a boat budget.

just fuel costs were hitting $400ish staying close to shore....storage about another few hundred (dry storage)...and of course drinks for everyone.

Those boat rental place classes are funny stuff though.

It's nice to be able to just go out on a whim and whenever you want and come back whenever you want.
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You seem to mention drinks an awful lot. I can think of a lot of other expenses that would make things like drinks for everyone seem rather trivial.
 
lol fuck its amazing when someone is so fucking wrong. been proven wrong yet can't admit to being wrong.
 
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