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You got me beat brudda, I've been in maybe 20ft surf *mainland measurement* and that was with sandy bottom with rocks on the inside. Just make it big enough and pitchin' hard enough for me to get covered and I'm in nirvana. Florida guys ain't that picky, because we don't have the luxury 🙂

rbV5, it's the same footage. However it is very possible he was dropping a few frames since you can't really notice 1 here or there without the stats. I doubt it though, he has a 3ghz+ P4 HT setup and this looks to be another area it excels in.
 
I doubt it, he has a 3ghz+ P4 HT setup and this looks to be another area it excels in.
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Yea, I was wondering about the DRM on top of the demanding footage. I was reading a thread on AVSforum and the MS guy was claiming that DRM could use up to 25% of the CPU all by itself. It seems they were using the demo files to test the waters, and I also noticed that last time I checked none of the 1080p files w/DRM are up on the site anymore (the Scooby Doo 2 clip was more demanding than step into liquid IIRC)

My T-2 Extreme DVD has both 720p and 1080p files, as I'm guessing all of them do. apoppin, did you play the 1080p version? Did you have to have an internet connection to get the DRM licence?
 
Perhaps this is why they yanked the DRM content for now? There are links from there that get into it more too. Looks like the quality is poor though
It generally is lossy, because you are reencoding the decoded stream = generational loss.


But it's possible that the bits could be caught before decoding, and shunted into a custom-written filter that instead of decoding the bitstream, just writes it to a file after decryption.
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Originally posted by: apoppin

i love watching BIG waves (my own personal biggest best was "only" 25+' at the Pipe - top-to-botom - only "small/medium" by these guys standards) 😛
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Biggest for me was 15' Waimea (big, but small Waimea). 8-12' Pipe here (from the back). Had to drop in 😉 , it was a contest. Absolutely disturbing for a FL boy. All old news though, as that was 85-88.

DaP...

Live Playback System
 
Originally posted by: rbV5
I doubt it, he has a 3ghz+ P4 HT setup and this looks to be another area it excels in.
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Yea, I was wondering about the DRM on top of the demanding footage. I was reading a thread on AVSforum and the MS guy was claiming that DRM could use up to 25% of the CPU all by itself. It seems they were using the demo files to test the waters, and I also noticed that last time I checked none of the 1080p files w/DRM are up on the site anymore (the Scooby Doo 2 clip was more demanding than step into liquid IIRC)

My T-2 Extreme DVD has both 720p and 1080p files, as I'm guessing all of them do. apoppin, did you play the 1080p version? Did you have to have an internet connection to get the DRM licence?
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Well i really don't know if i really dropped any frames or not . . . DRM took forever to get the license off the 'net and after playing it once, it won't play again - don't know if it has to do with it being a rental - but i got it the day it was released . . . 😛

AFAIK there wasn't a choice to play at 720 or 1080 - but it was my 1st HiDef DVD, so i didn't know what to expect (excited and all with a new surf vid) . . . if i can get back 'in', i'll check it out (heck, i may BUY the DVD) . . . 😉 it DID look BETTER than a "normal" DVD ( a LOT better). 😉

My 2.80C is @ 3.31Ghz, Abit Ic7g/1GP PC3500/9800xt/WD 120GB . . . seems to play ok.
 
Originally posted by: gsellis
Originally posted by: apoppin

i love watching BIG waves (my own personal biggest best was "only" 25+' at the Pipe - top-to-botom - only "small/medium" by these guys standards) 😛
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Biggest for me was 15' Waimea (big, but small Waimea). 8-12' Pipe here (from the back). Had to drop in 😉 , it was a contest. Absolutely disturbing for a FL boy. All old news though, as that was 85-88.

DaP...

Live Playback System
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Waimea (pinballs) is HEAVY

I used to surf 8-12' Pipe regularly from '92-'99 (Hawaiian traditional scale - measured from the back - about 15'-20+' top-to-bottom). But 12-15' "backs" (20'-30') is ANOTHER realm - especially on the 1st reef, as big as it gets. The wave is TWICE as thick and when you wipeout, you hit bottom at least 3 times in a row; when you make it, it is the MOST exilarating eXperience EVAR - you get blasted out the TUBE with what feels like a shot from a fire hydrant/canon behind you and can pull as big an "air" as you dare. 😉

I used to live in the Yellow house behind Gerry Lopez' beach house at Pipe (got to know him, my neighbor in the early 90s) . . . you'd hear the surf all night building for a huge swell and the dishes would ratle with the booming on the 3rd reef . . . couldn't sleep those nights. 😉

now i a "stuck" in the SoCal HiDes . . . surfing the 'netand missing the overhead waves in La Jolla today and tomorrow. 😛

🙁
 
Originally posted by: gsellis
Originally posted by: apoppin

i love watching BIG waves (my own personal biggest best was "only" 25+' at the Pipe - top-to-botom - only "small/medium" by these guys standards) 😛
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Biggest for me was 15' Waimea (big, but small Waimea). 8-12' Pipe here (from the back). Had to drop in 😉 , it was a contest. Absolutely disturbing for a FL boy. All old news though, as that was 85-88.

DaP...

Live Playback System
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Time to start an AT sufing club, even spongers are welcome! 😀 Just don't forget to have it back in time for mom to do the dishes! 😛

That Live playback looks interesting, good to see they are really serious about making HD content more prevelant. I wonder if the XP media OS has anything for handling WMV HD ours doesn't?
 
There are still 720p demo files with DRM, so I doubt that "supposed" workaround is related. They are probably trying different forms of DRM, and noticed the 1080p files with DRM were performing very poorly and perhaps affect sales of the DVD's that are now coming out? I dunno?
 
Originally posted by: rbV5
There are still 720p demo files with DRM, so I doubt that "supposed" workaround is related. They are probably trying different forms of DRM, and noticed the 1080p files with DRM were performing very poorly and perhaps affect sales of the DVD's that are now coming out? I dunno?
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I hear ya, about all I can say with any feeling of confidence is that P4 HT CPUs are the best choice for WMV HD content@this time. I'd love to see the PVP fully functional and prove it can reduce the CPU load while providing flawless playback, but that's just pie-in-the-sky right now :frown:
 
Watched this film recently. Good schtuff. Fetched the HD trailer and played it with MPC using WMV9 codecs and Overlay mixer (fastest available) with no apparent dropped frames -although the stats were not working, CPU usage was never maxed out (70-90%). P2.4 @ 2.9 (HT disabled), R9500/9700.

More importantly, why was it incorrectly encoded with a 1.33:1 aspect ratio instead of 1.85:1? It is not even 1080 vertical but around 1440x810 after AR correction and allowing for included matting (otherwise more like 778 vertical of actual content). Fortunately MPC or DivX Player allow manual correction. Does WMP9+ do this automatically or are you fools just oblivious? 😛
 
I used to surf 8-12' Pipe regularly from '92-'99 (Hawaiian traditional scale - measured from the back - about 15'-20+' top-to-bottom). But 12-15' "backs" (20'-30') is ANOTHER realm - especially on the 1st reef, as big as it gets. The wave is TWICE as thick and when you wipeout, you hit bottom at least 3 times in a row; when you make it, it is the MOST exilarating eXperience EVAR - you get blasted out the TUBE with what feels like a shot from a fire hydrant/canon behind you and can pull as big an "air" as you dare.
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LOL, you guys are making me want to get back in the water. I've never surfed the Islands (or even warm water) but plenty of large surf up here in the Northwest (nothing like THAT though) over the years....How about a surfboard icon for AT?
 
are you fools just oblivious?
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That would be me 😀 Seriously though, playing it with another player or adjusting the ratio isn't the point here, at least not for me, it's about how hard it is on even some very powerful systems around here, and attempting to determine if the PVP on my 6800GT was working. BTW, if you are a HD/Home entertaiment Guru, you better watch out or you will have to add me to your ignore list to keep all the PMs I'll send you from flooding your in-box 😉
 
Does WMP9+ do this automatically or are you fools just oblivious?
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Actually, WMP is horrible for watching the clip (theater mode is OK) I use Jetaudio myself, which is very good and supports DRM. WMP for testing is OK and gives you feedback with the statistics.
 
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Time to start an AT sufing club, even spongers are welcome! 😀 Just don't forget to have it back in time for mom to do the dishes! 😛
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Surf is too small for big guys here in Va Beach, I'm stuck on a boogie board. Am I welcome? 😱
 
Originally posted by: Megatomic
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Time to start an AT sufing club, even spongers are welcome! 😀 Just don't forget to have it back in time for mom to do the dishes! 😛
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Surf is too small for big guys here in Va Beach, I'm stuck on a boogie board. Am I welcome? 😱
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You can head up the Spongers=Boogie boarders squad 😀 I've been strictly a longboarder the last decade myself. Too small for short boarding 90% of the time given I'm a mook myself. When I was doing both long and short and it was big enough, I would spend most the session trying to readjust to my shortboard. Now I just Longboard regardless of conditions, it makes for a grueling paddle out when it's big&choppy but that's life.

On the plus side, when you smack the lip *yeah I'm old school* and nearly 9ft of board is showing over the back, it looks pretty impressive and normally draws a few hoots 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
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Now try it with Step into Liquid, as not all are as demanding. Try and capture the screenshot about 5sec from the end too, thanks Zebo 🙂
 
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
[Time to start an AT sufing club, even spongers are welcome! 😀 Just don't forget to have it back in time for mom to do the dishes! 😛

That Live playback looks interesting, good to see they are really serious about making HD content more prevelant. I wonder if the XP media OS has anything for handling WMV HD ours doesn't?
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Glad you said spongers welcome 😀 Guilty. I used to hang at Sebastion until I moved to Atlanta in late 87. Did the Morey contest twice at Pipe. Had the most bounding wipeout at Pipe and had to sit on the beach for an hour until the ringing stopped 😉

I cannot think of anything in Media Center that would make it better than XP Pro for playback. Most of the code appears to be interface stuff (My objectives for this year include creating a custom build of it for internal corp usage.)
 
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: Zebo
My results Link
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Now try it with Step into Liquid, as not all are as demanding. Try and capture the screenshot about 5sec from the end too, thanks Zebo 🙂
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Click again still no frames skipped...
 
cannot think of anything in Media Center that would make it better than XP Pro for playback. Most of the code appears to be interface stuff (My objectives for this year include creating a custom build of it for internal corp usage.)
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MCE has a different allocator/presenter which apparently handles VMR9 differently. Here's a Link where its being discussed on Inmatrix Forums (Blight is the author of zoomplayer).
 
The workstation in my rigs... 20-30% max average with 1 CPU above/below 60%. No frames dropped.

For the really lazy, CPU 1 is a Xeon 3.06. The vid card is a Sapphire 9600XT. 1280x1024. Was able to skip 4 frames opening Task Manager over it while at 200% 😉
 
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