Porn sucks.

[NikPreviousAcct]

I think that people can have a very fruitful life without the trash. That's my opinion. If you don't agree, that's fine. If you do, that's fine. 🙂

 

[isaacmacdonald]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
I think that people can have a very fruitful life without the trash. That's my opinion. If you don't agree, that's fine. If you do, that's fine. 🙂

would society be a better place if everyone agreed with you?

 

[imported_Papi]

Originally posted by: gordy

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Because if they practiced what they preached, they wouldn't be in here telling him off in the first place.

wow, pwned...

says you

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
I think that people can have a very fruitful life without the trash. That's my opinion. If you don't agree, that's fine. If you do, that's fine. 🙂

would society be a better place if everyone agreed with you?

That would devastate free-thought. Obviously not.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: yayo

Originally posted by: gordy

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Because if they practiced what they preached, they wouldn't be in here telling him off in the first place.

wow, pwned...

says you

Why don't you actually contribute to this thread instead of vomiting this crap every time you open your mouth?

Sorry, it just came out that way.

 

[Red]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I'm glad I don't have your life or morals.

amish

"Why do you give a crap what other people do in thier own bedrooms? If you don't want to, fine. If they want to, how is it any skin off your back? "

"Why must you preach your views upon others. Worry about yourself and don't push your crap onto others."

Eh. Anyone who came in here to bash him for "forcing" his opinion on anyone else --or saying that the original poster shouldn't care what other people do in their own bedroom, is a hypocrite.

I agree =) I was driving home from work, sorry I couldn't jump in this. Anyway, the point is: look at if ya got it. If not, don't!

 

[isaacmacdonald]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
I think that people can have a very fruitful life without the trash. That's my opinion. If you don't agree, that's fine. If you do, that's fine. 🙂

would society be a better place if everyone agreed with you?

That would devastate free-thought. Obviously not.

bah.

by your, "everything's just fine no matter what you believe" statement, It sounds like you don't believe in any sort of universality. IE: what you believe is arbitrary and objectively valueless.

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
I think that people can have a very fruitful life without the trash. That's my opinion. If you don't agree, that's fine. If you do, that's fine. 🙂

would society be a better place if everyone agreed with you?

From everything I've ever seen him post, he certainly seems to think so. "I'm an angry young moral citizen, so I know everything I say must be right!"

 

[FeathersMcGraw]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Because if they practiced what they preached, they wouldn't be in here telling him off in the first place.

So you're advocating that people go watch porn instead of posting on ATOT?

At last, a viewpoint we can all subscribe to.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I'm glad I don't have your life or morals.

amish

"Why do you give a crap what other people do in thier own bedrooms? If you don't want to, fine. If they want to, how is it any skin off your back? "

"Why must you preach your views upon others. Worry about yourself and don't push your crap onto others."

Eh. Anyone who came in here to bash him for "forcing" his opinion on anyone else --or saying that the original poster shouldn't care what other people do in their own bedroom, is a hypocrite.

How?

Because if they practiced what they preached, they wouldn't be in here telling him off in the first place.

Telling him that I disagree is not telling him off.

Why does he care what people do in the privacy of their homes?

 

[isaacmacdonald]

to bring this back to earth- I'm concerned by the generally everything's fine attitude primarilly because it's passive. EG: I don't agree with the fascist guy that Jew's are the root of all of our problems, but he can believe what he wants. Or, I don't agree with that whole slavery thing, but those other guys can do what they like.

I would assume that for even the most ardent objectors, pornography isn't nearly as large a nemisis as slavery or anti-semitism. Nonetheless, passively dismissing all assertions as subjective and unimportant is a dangerous habit to get into.

 

[Need4Speed]

Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
I realize this is a computer forum with many single men and others who have had easy access to internet porn for years (such as myself), but there must be some of you out there who find it disgusting, even more so with a significant other.

I am a 20 year old male, and I have been online (first BBS, then internet) for years. I looked at porn from about age 13 to about 18... all the time. I have been engaged with my fiancee for a little over a year now, we've been together since I was 18, and I think it's horrible to look at porn when you're in a relationship. (Well, maybe MY relationship.)

First of all, if the relationship is not sexually satisfying enough with just you and your partner... then either you're not meant to be, or you're placing too much emphasis on sex in the relationship, or you've got an obessive personality with porn, etc....

Moreover, it objectifies sex, which we feel is very sacred and personal to us.... it is also degrading to women/men. Even though I'm sure if you asked a porn star if they feel degraded, they'd so no because they don't have many morals to feel degraded with.

And on a personal note, I wouldn't want to be with my fiancee if she didn't feel the same way. I wouldn't date a girl who (1) thought sex was just sex and doesn't care about watching other people do it and two (2) a girl who doesn't have the berries to tell me she doesn't feel comfortable with it or doesn't want me to watch it anyway.

As previously referenced, I understand many of you are age 16-25 males with no soulmate yet, so rubbing one off everynight probably doesn't seem like a big deal, but I hope you can understand my point and decide not to continue your habit once you're with the person you LOVE.

hey! whats wrong with looking at porn with your wife...

 

[Legendary]

?All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.? (Edmund Burke)

I believe this highly, and while it doesn't apply directly to this post (someone not liking porn is not evil in any sense, it's something they have a right to believe) I think anyone who has the standpoint that "If you don't agree, don't say/do anything" is against social progress, indirectly at the very least.

 

[isaacmacdonald]

Originally posted by: Legendary
?All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.? (Edmund Burke)

I believe this highly, and while it doesn't apply directly to this post (someone not liking porn is not evil in any sense, it's something they have a right to believe) I think anyone who has the standpoint that "If you don't agree, don't say/do anything" is against social progress, indirectly at the very least.

that quote paraphrases exactly what I was attempting to communicate in the last post. And while it's true that the quote doesn't apply directly for the majority of ATOT, the inverse is not true. If you really believe that pronography is a substantial social ill, yet do nothing to convince other people of it, you are indeed allowing evil to triumph.

 

[Red]

Originally posted by: Legendary
?All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.? (Edmund Burke)

I believe this highly, and while it doesn't apply directly to this post (someone not liking porn is not evil in any sense, it's something they have a right to believe) I think anyone who has the standpoint that "If you don't agree, don't say/do anything" is against social progress, indirectly at the very least.

I agree with you as well. Many ATOTs often say (ie, read many posts in this thread) ... let me do whatever the hell I want, worry about yourself, yada yada. This post, just like any post in ATOT, is not to push my values on anyone else, you all are going to do whatever you want anyway. I just made an off topic post about why I think pornography is unhealthy for a relationship. I'm glad people entertained my thread and stirred some ideas. But with any ATOT, people are going to throw in irrelevant crap ("you're a pussy" "you're holier than thou" "you're yada") because either (1) they are trying to get other ATOTs to agree and/or generate some type of humor or (2) trolling/assing out threads.

So once again, I feel that in my relationship, porn is not conducive to a happiner or better relationship. If porn makes your relationship better, I respectfully disagree with your decision to watch it, but so be it.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald
to bring this back to earth- I'm concerned by the generally everything's fine attitude primarilly because it's passive. EG: I don't agree with the fascist guy that Jew's are the root of all of our problems, but he can believe what he wants. Or, I don't agree with that whole slavery thing, but those other guys can do what they like.

I would assume that for even the most ardent objectors, pornography isn't nearly as large a nemisis as slavery or anti-semitism. Nonetheless, passively dismissing all assertions as subjective and unimportant is a dangerous habit to get into.

I do not think sexually explicit material is bad, wrong, or a danger to civilization. I think we live in a sexual repressive culture which is a source of a lot of problems. I think that everybody would be a lot healthier emotionally and physically if they came to terms with their sexuality instead of trying to repress it.

I hope everything works out well for the author of this thread. But I think he is being naive in his position concerning the importance and the reality of sex in marriage. As someone wrote. Come back in six years and tell us all about.

 

[isaacmacdonald]

Originally posted by: Redhotjrm

Originally posted by: Legendary
?All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.? (Edmund Burke)

I believe this highly, and while it doesn't apply directly to this post (someone not liking porn is not evil in any sense, it's something they have a right to believe) I think anyone who has the standpoint that "If you don't agree, don't say/do anything" is against social progress, indirectly at the very least.

I agree with you as well. Many ATOTs often say (ie, read many posts in this thread) ... let me do whatever the hell I want, worry about yourself, yada yada. This post, just like any post in ATOT, is not to push my values on anyone else, you all are going to do whatever you want anyway. I just made an off topic post about why I think pornography is unhealthy for a relationship. I'm glad people entertained my thread and stirred some ideas. But with any ATOT, people are going to throw in irrelevant crap ("you're a pussy" "you're holier than thou" "you're yada") because either (1) they are trying to get other ATOTs to agree and/or generate some type of humor or (2) trolling/assing out threads.

So once again, I feel that in my relationship, porn is not conducive to a happiner or better relationship. If porn makes your relationship better, I respectfully disagree with your decision to watch it, but so be it.

Cheers for someone who (though I disagree with) believes that his POV is worth sharing.

 

[blakeatwork]

Bah... there's nothing one with "rubbing one off" every now and then when you're in a relationship/married... I have yet to know a guy who doesn't masturbate at least once a week...

It's all well and good for you to have morals and such, but don't impose those morals on anyne and everyone... I don't know if you're religious or not, but it would be like someone forcing you to go to Church... or read the bible or whatnot..

get my point??

 

[stormbv]

I don't really like porn that much, either. My imagination is much more interesting. 😛

 

[Trevelyan]

Originally posted by: LordThing

Originally posted by: SaltBoy
Wow... that took a lot of guts to post. I commend you for your integrity. 🙂

It doesn't take integrity to get up on a soapbox and preach to others about how you think everyone else should live their life. Integrity is when you stand up for what you believe in while others are telling how you should believe or act. If anything, it takes integrity to tell him to shove it up his @ss.

As for the guts statement, it would take guts to say that in the middle of a porn convention, not post about it on an open forum for nerds. Especially when the opinion wasn't even asked for.

As for Redhotjrm, you are a hypocrite for looking at porn all that time then telling everyone else it's bad because you don't do it anymore. That's not having morals, that's just being a blowhard.

Well it seems to me that everyone is yelling at him for saying what he believes, so I think its cool he still stands up for what he thinks and his mind isn't changed by anyone...

And man, people here sure love to get real pissed off the minute someone says something about beliefs... because apparently its cool to speak your mind about cars and money to people, but the minute you say something about what you believe you are "preaching" or "shoving your views down everyone else's throat"... man, some people are very insecure if they think by posting text in a public message board on the internet is shoving beliefs down their throat...

 

[PhlashFoto]

Lighten up bro about the porn... thats all it is.. just porn.... nothing wrong with it.... give yourself to the dark side.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I'm glad I don't have your life or morals.

amish

"Why do you give a crap what other people do in thier own bedrooms? If you don't want to, fine. If they want to, how is it any skin off your back? "

"Why must you preach your views upon others. Worry about yourself and don't push your crap onto others."

Eh. Anyone who came in here to bash him for "forcing" his opinion on anyone else --or saying that the original poster shouldn't care what other people do in their own bedroom, is a hypocrite.

How?

Because if they practiced what they preached, they wouldn't be in here telling him off in the first place.

Telling him that I disagree is not telling him off.

Why does he care what people do in the privacy of their homes?

Why do you care what he thinks?

 

[nemesismk2]

Porn? Nope never touch the stuff myself (quickly hides his Playboy mags under his desk!)

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Edit: Some women enjoy making porn movies, and enjoy men getting off on them. Let's not go against their wishes.

LOL, you are so delusional. :beer:

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: Redhotjrm

Originally posted by: notfred
Why do you give a crap what other people do in thier own bedrooms? If you don't want to, fine. If they want to, how is it any skin off your back?

I don't want to have a daughter one day that is raised by the 18-25 yr old males in here that are raised with open buckle bunnies.

I'd be proud as hell if my daughter made it big in the porn industry!!!

Damn! I could get free porn and actually meat (😉) some real porn actresses.

amish

You would probably whack off to her video as well. 😉