Porn sucks.

[fs5]

suprise surprise, this thing has turned into a flame fest about porn. wheeeeee

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: MillenniumBTW, for the second time ever I agree with Electric Amish and pretty much everyone else. You are a pussywhipped tool.

Ok, now look what this a-hole RedHotjrm has gone and done!!! WTF are we going to do if we all start agreeing with each other??!?!

Holy fvck. I just got back from eating and now I am sick. WTF is your deal? Please, we have enough of ffmcobalt as it is, we don't need another member of the moral freaking majority telling us what we do is wrong. I think you are stupid for NOT looking at porn and even stupider in not realizing you are a hypocrite(pre-marital sex).


It'll be complete and utter mayhem, I tell you!!!

"Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, mass hysteria!"

amish 😉

Its good to be back!
😀:beer:

 

[Jzero]

pr0n is A-OK.

 

[imported_Tomato]

Porn can be a fabulous enhancement to a relationship, and I believe it's perfectly healthy alone, whether you have a partner or not. I'm a 22-year-old female, and I enjoy watching an occasional DVD with Tia Bella, Aria Giovanni, or Sky Lopez... the images are very stimulating, and a nice way to escape from reality into fantasy.

I guess problems arise when you can no longer distinguish between fantasy and reality, or when your addiction to porn prevents you from going out or being in a relationship. If my partner wants to fantasize about other women, that's perfectly fine and I'll even provide the material... as long as it doesn't negatively affect our relationship, which it never has in the past.

 

[Freejack2]

Interesting. I don't see why porn is such a bad thing. As long as the people who are in the porn are willing there is no harm in it. If Ron Jeremy and some female porn star want to make a porno movie, more power to them. If people want to watch it where appropriate then I hope they enjoy themselves. It's a free country. If you don't like it then don't watch it.

Like anything else though it can be abused. There will be people who will force an unwilling person to be in porn or some sicko who will expose a kid to it. That's wrong. Porn is meant for willing and consenting adults only, not children or the unwilling.

 

[dquan97]

Originally posted by: SaltBoy
Wow... that took a lot of guts to post. I commend you for your integrity. 🙂

I truly admire your discipline and bravery for stating that!

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: Dezign
Porn can be a fabulous enhancement to a relationship, and I believe it's perfectly healthy alone, whether you have a partner or not. I'm a 22-year-old female, and I enjoy watching an occasional DVD with Tia Bella, Aria Giovanni, or Sky Lopez... the images are very stimulating, and a nice way to escape from reality into fantasy.

I guess problems arise when you can no longer distinguish between fantasy and reality, or when your addiction to porn prevents you from going out or being in a relationship. If my partner wants to fantasize about other women, that's perfectly fine and I'll even provide the material... as long as it doesn't negatively affect our relationship, which it never has in the past.

I can only imagine the large amounts of disgusting PM's you are receiving right about now 🙂

 

[Rufio]

Originally posted by: Redhotjrm

Originally posted by: Rufio

Originally posted by: Redhotjrm

Originally posted by: yayo
Are you mormon?

No, I'm a Christian and I'm not going to bring religion into this (that's a entirely different flame thread). All religion aside, I just don't think looking at porn is conducive to a healthy, loving relationship. We're kinky as hell and romantic as hell, but we would never look at other people having sex.

you must have a nasty girlfriend if she's with you.

AHAAHAH

Once again, you're not making any debateable point (debateable a word?)

i'm just using the same argument that you used.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: Redhotjrm

Originally posted by: 911paramedic

...we're mature...

You're 20, don't kid yourself.

Age is always the best indicator of maturity. Right!

No. It is an unignorably huge factor, though. I have heard many children claim that they are beyond their years in maturity. This ignores experience. You have to live a certian number of years before you have learned enough from experience. I don't care what you claim you have been through. I don't want to hear you claim you are an old soul or any of that crap. I am nearly 30, and I can say that I know very little. I think some of you older folks may agree with me on this one. Perhaps I can impart some of my experience to you. I have been married for four months. I can state unequivocally that my sexual appetite is quite defferent than my wife's. Sometimes I am in the mood and she is not. That is marriage. This will happen to you. Biologically, men and women are different. She will not always be willing to satisfy your every sexual whim. That is not to say that she does not love me. We have been together for 10 years. I have never cheated on her, even in a Clintonian sense. Having said that, I have looked at naked boobies on the internet. I see nothing wrong with it - in moderation. To have sexual fantasies is to be healthy. Otherwise, I believe that you become dead sexually. I think the fact that you are 20 and touting your self-proclaimed maturity just highlights your own immature naivete. You will change greatly over the next 10 years. Your viewpoints will change. You will either become more conservative or more liberal. I'm not sure how much more conservative you could become, but that possibility does exist. My hope is that you become more tolerant of other viewpoints.

you have no morals and must be possessed by satan😉

possessed != employed. 😛

Hell yes!

 

[Fausto]

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: Fausto1

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: Redhotjrm

Originally posted by: 911paramedic

...we're mature...

You're 20, don't kid yourself.

Age is always the best indicator of maturity. Right!

No. It is an unignorably huge factor, though. I have heard many children claim that they are beyond their years in maturity. This ignores experience. You <STRONG>have</STRONG> to live a certian number of years before you have learned enough from experience. I don't care what you claim you have been through. I don't want to hear you claim you are an old soul or any of that crap. I am nearly 30, and I can say that I know very little. I think some of you older folks may agree with me on this one. Perhaps I can impart some of my experience to you. I have been married for four months. I can state unequivocally that my sexual appetite is quite defferent than my wife's. Sometimes I am in the mood and she is not. That is marriage. This will happen to you. Biologically, men and women are different. She will not always be willing to satisfy your every sexual whim. That is not to say that she does not love me. We have been together for 10 years. I have never cheated on her, even in a Clintonian sense. Having said that, I have looked at naked boobies on the internet. I see nothing wrong with it - in moderation. To have sexual fantasies is to be healthy. Otherwise, I believe that you become dead sexually. I think the fact that you are 20 and touting your self-proclaimed maturity just highlights your own immature naivete. You will change greatly over the next 10 years. Your viewpoints will change. You will either become more conservative or more liberal. I'm not sure how much more conservative you could become, but that possibility does exist. My hope is that you become more tolerant of other viewpoints.

you have no morals and must be possessed by satan😉

possessed != employed. 😛

Hell yes!

So to speak....

😛

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: Millennium
Holy fvck. I just got back from eating and now I am sick. WTF is your deal? Please, we have enough of ffmcobalt as it is, we don't need another member of the moral freaking majority telling us what we do is wrong. I think you are stupid for NOT looking at porn and even stupider in not realizing you are a hypocrite(pre-marital sex).

BTW, for the second time ever I agree with Electric Amish and pretty much everyone else. You are a pussywhipped tool.

This pretty much echoes my thoughts.

 

[Rufio]

Originally posted by: Mani

Originally posted by: Millennium
Holy fvck. I just got back from eating and now I am sick. WTF is your deal? Please, we have enough of ffmcobalt as it is, we don't need another member of the moral freaking majority telling us what we do is wrong. I think you are stupid for NOT looking at porn and even stupider in not realizing you are a hypocrite(pre-marital sex).

BTW, for the second time ever I agree with Electric Amish and pretty much everyone else. You are a pussywhipped tool.

This pretty much echoes my thoughts.

same here.

 

[gordy]

Originally posted by: boyRacer

i don't think its the porn they're defending... its you telling them what's right and wrong. but hey for what its worth i respect people's opinions... yours and everyone elses. 🙂

classic! lmoa

so if he pontificated that the PzKpfw VI Ausf B was really called the King Tiger and not the Royal Tiger..

it'all about the porn silly

 

[isaacmacdonald]

hardee har har.

the intital post reminds me of what my parents attempted to instill in me after years of pat robertson indoctrination.

"if your sexual needs are anything more than what your partner can happilly fullfill, you're either with the wrong person, or you're mentally sick"

that's pragmatic. I mean we all know that most successfull marriages are just a big bowl of cherries. That's because the reason for their success isn't hard work and patience, it's that the "soul mates" just naturally fit perfectly together 100% of the time.

"porn objectifies sex"

that's true isn't it? It reminds me of how the terminator objectifies violence, how friday objectifies humor, and how everybody loves raymond objectifies middle class suburban ennui. It's kind of like how my gf objectifies her co workers when she relates funny little anecodtes about work.

that's funny isn't it?

the truth is life isn't a sacred golden calf to be worshiped. it's meant to be lived. sex is part of life, and is made into a sacred idol by those who are in fact obsessed with coitus and it's phantasmal signifigance.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald
hardee har har.

the intital post reminds me of what my parents attempted to instill in me after years of pat robertson indoctrination.

"if your sexual needs are anything more than what your partner can happilly fullfill, you're either with the wrong person, or you're mentally sick"

that's pragmatic. I mean we all know that most successfull marriages are just a big bowl of cherries. That's because the reason for their success isn't hard work and patience, it's that the "soul mates" just naturally fit perfectly together 100% of the time.

"porn objectifies sex"

that's true isn't it? It reminds me of how the terminator objectifies violence, how friday objectifies humor, and how everybody loves raymond objectifies middle class suburban ennui. It's kind of like how my gf objectifies her co workers when she relates funny little anecodtes about work.

that's funny isn't it?

the truth is life isn't a sacred golden calf to be worshiped. it's meant to be lived. sex is part of life, and is made into a sacred idol by those who are in fact obsessed with coitus and it's phantasmal signifigance.

Thank you for your OPINION. I'm glad that I do not share it. 🙂

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I'm glad I don't have your life or morals.

amish

"Why do you give a crap what other people do in thier own bedrooms? If you don't want to, fine. If they want to, how is it any skin off your back? "

"Why must you preach your views upon others. Worry about yourself and don't push your crap onto others."

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I'm glad I don't have your life or morals.

amish

"Why do you give a crap what other people do in thier own bedrooms? If you don't want to, fine. If they want to, how is it any skin off your back? "

"Why must you preach your views upon others. Worry about yourself and don't push your crap onto others."

Eh. Anyone who came in here to bash him for "forcing" his opinion on anyone else --or saying that the original poster shouldn't care what other people do in their own bedroom, is a hypocrite.

 

[imported_Papi]

says you, bud

 

[isaacmacdonald]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Thank you for your OPINION. I'm glad that I do not share it. 🙂

the last line was certainly opinion, but the rest would best be classified as assertions.

while I whole heartedly embrace the whole apathy POV, I don't think it's necessary to assume that everything is subjective. logical relationships can be established and debated. dismissing everything as "opinion" and therefore irrelevant seems a bit close minded to me.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I'm glad I don't have your life or morals.

amish

"Why do you give a crap what other people do in thier own bedrooms? If you don't want to, fine. If they want to, how is it any skin off your back? "

"Why must you preach your views upon others. Worry about yourself and don't push your crap onto others."

Eh. Anyone who came in here to bash him for "forcing" his opinion on anyone else --or saying that the original poster shouldn't care what other people do in their own bedroom, is a hypocrite.

How?

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Thank you for your OPINION. I'm glad that I do not share it. 🙂

the last line was certainly opinion, but the rest would best be classified as assertions.

while I whole heartedly embrace the whole apathy POV, I don't think it's necessary to assume that everything is subjective. logical relationships can be established and debated. dismissing everything as "opinion" and therefore irrelevant seems a bit close minded to me.

See, whether to watch porn or not and how people view it's impact on individuals and society as a whole is all an opinion. There's nothing scientific, factual, whatever about it.

 

[Lyfer]

Porn is god.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
I'm glad I don't have your life or morals.

amish

"Why do you give a crap what other people do in thier own bedrooms? If you don't want to, fine. If they want to, how is it any skin off your back? "

"Why must you preach your views upon others. Worry about yourself and don't push your crap onto others."

Eh. Anyone who came in here to bash him for "forcing" his opinion on anyone else --or saying that the original poster shouldn't care what other people do in their own bedroom, is a hypocrite.

How?

Because if they practiced what they preached, they wouldn't be in here telling him off in the first place.

 

[gordy]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Because if they practiced what they preached, they wouldn't be in here telling him off in the first place.

wow, pwned...

 

[isaacmacdonald]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: isaacmacdonald

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Thank you for your OPINION. I'm glad that I do not share it. 🙂

the last line was certainly opinion, but the rest would best be classified as assertions.

while I whole heartedly embrace the whole apathy POV, I don't think it's necessary to assume that everything is subjective. logical relationships can be established and debated. dismissing everything as "opinion" and therefore irrelevant seems a bit close minded to me.

See, whether to watch porn or not and how people view it's impact on individuals and society as a whole is all an opinion. There's nothing scientific, factual, whatever about it.

you feel the effects of non-reproductive expressions of sexuality are completely random or free from scientific inquery or basis in fact?

whether or not it has a negative, positive, or any impact at all is completely bound by individual subjectivity?

that's a pretty post modern point of view (typical of what I would expect on atot)-