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Poll : Spanking Children

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If your kids are not listening, talking back, or arguing with you, you've already blown it. Discipline/learning starts as an infant. A child reared in the Montessori method will already have developed good, lifelong habits by the time they're kindergarten age.

Can you imagine a 3 or 4 year old putting toys away on their own? Can you imagine them going to bed without having to tell them twice? That's EXACTLY the way our boys were raised. No shouting, arguing or physical violence of any kind, and no need for it. Imagine your child doing what they're told the first time and every time. Too hard to believe? Suit yourself. It's easily achievable with a little education on the parent's part.

What do you do when your 2 or 3 year old wants to play with the VCR or TV? After you've told them NO for the tenth time, you end up spanking or punishing them in some way, right? When my boys wanted to mess with that equipment, I showed them exactly how to use it. No yelling, hitting or crying involved. Kids have an amazing aptitude if you'll only give them a chance. They WANT to learn! My sons learned to turn on the TV, select the input, turn on the VCR, select a tape, insert it, watch it, rewind it, and put it away when they were done... every time! And, that's just one small example of their everyday routines.

Again, if you want to go through the hassle of arguing, yelling and hitting, day after day for your kid's entire childhood, suit yourself, but there are viable alternatives THAT WORK!
 
Originally posted by: Ornery
If your kids are not listening, talking back, or arguing with you, you've already blown it. Discipline/learning starts as an infant. A child reared in the Montessori method will already have developed good, lifelong habits by the time they're kindergarten age.

Can you imagine a 3 or 4 year old putting toys away on their own? Can you imagine them going to bed without having to tell them twice? That's EXACTLY the way our boys were raised. No shouting, arguing or physical violence of any kind, and no need for it. Imagine your child doing what they're told the first time and every time. Too hard to believe? Suit yourself. It's easily achievable with a little education on the parent's part.

What do you do when your 2 or 3 year old wants to play with the VCR or TV? After you've told them NO for the tenth time, you end up spanking or punishing them in some way, right? When my boys wanted to mess with that equipment, I showed them exactly how to use it. No yelling, hitting or crying involved. Kids have an amazing aptitude if you'll only give them a chance. They WANT to learn! My sons learned to turn on the TV, select the input, turn on the VCR, select a tape, insert it, watch it, rewind it, and put it away when they were done... every time! And, that's just one small example of their everyday routines.

Again, if you want to go through the hassle of arguing, yelling and hitting, day after day for your kid's entire childhood, suit yourself, but there are viable alternatives THAT WORK!



man just stfu. my kids do all those things, no hassles. you want to equate spanking to abuse, and parents that spank as ignorant failures. if you could read wtf most are saying you would realize that most dont spank their kids 15 times a day.

go back and read. not even 10 spankings for both kids, and the last one 3 years ago in my case. but no, were all dumbasses that abuse our children.....

go hump mrs montessori some more....
 
Originally posted by: Ornery

  1. im done here :roll:


cant let those idiotic insults pass from some pompous ass who claims his children do no wrong, ever, all because hes never spanked them. im sure theyve never talked back, done everything the first time when told, and have halos and wings, and on and on and on.

maybe you could address the issues that were brought up, that you choose to ignore, instead of making veiled insults to those that choose to do things differently than you. oh i forgot, those methods are just plain wrong according to the "experts" such as yourself.
 
I never got spanked.
For some reason I never had a reason to do mischivieous things. I never reallyg ot pleasure from doing bad things.

Maybe because I was a "laid back saying w/e to everything that was supposed to bother me" type of child.

 
wow, the vast majority agrees with it. you people are crazy. get out of the trailer park. why do you think your kids hate you and you raised a worthless child
 
Originally posted by: slayer202
wow, the vast majority agrees with it. you people are crazy. get out of the trailer park. why do you think your kids hate you and you raised a worthless child
The ones that are more prone to be worthless are the timeout babies who never learn respect.

Big problem in today's America.

 
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: slayer202
wow, the vast majority agrees with it. you people are crazy. get out of the trailer park. why do you think your kids hate you and you raised a worthless child
The ones that are more prone to be worthless are the timeout babies who never learn respect.

Big problem in today's America.

theres a difference between proper punishment and pushover parents, and between proper punishment and spanking. how can you teach a kid any morals if you spank them? it basically justifies harming other people
 
Originally posted by: shimsham
Originally posted by: Ornery

  1. im done here :roll:
cant let those idiotic insults pass from some pompous ass who claims his children do no wrong, ever, all because hes never spanked them.

They learned good habits very young because of MY parenting education. Nothing to do with corporal punishment one way or the other.

im sure theyve never talked back, done everything the first time when told, and have halos and wings, and on and on and on.

They had no reason to "talk back". They learned very young that their parents meant what they said, and followed through.

maybe you could address the issues that were brought up, that you choose to ignore,

You screw offs are the ones avoiding answering questions about why it's OK for YOU to use corporal punishment, but NOT our public schools. Or, how dumb animals can be successfully trained without being smacked, yet YOUR kids can't.

instead of making veiled insults to those that choose to do things differently than you. oh i forgot, those methods are just plain wrong according to the "experts" such as yourself.

Some people feel they have to hit babies, toddlers and young children to teach them, and some don't. Both camps have success and failure, but I'll always choose the side that achieves success without the hitting, yelling and arguing... suit yourself.
 
Originally posted by: Ornery
Originally posted by: shimsham
Originally posted by: Ornery

  1. im done here :roll:
cant let those idiotic insults pass from some pompous ass who claims his children do no wrong, ever, all because hes never spanked them.

They learned good habits very young because of MY parenting education. Nothing to do with corporal punishment one way or the other.

im sure theyve never talked back, done everything the first time when told, and have halos and wings, and on and on and on.

They had no reason to "talk back". They learned very young that their parents meant what they said, and followed through.

maybe you could address the issues that were brought up, that you choose to ignore,

You screw offs are the ones avoiding answering questions about why it's OK for YOU to use corporal punishment, but NOT our public schools. Or, how dumb animals can be successfully trained without being smacked, yet YOUR kids can't.

instead of making veiled insults to those that choose to do things differently than you. oh i forgot, those methods are just plain wrong according to the "experts" such as yourself.

Some people feel they have to hit babies, toddlers and young children to teach them, and some don't. Both camps have success and failure, but I'll always choose the side that achieves success without the hitting, yelling and arguing... suit yourself.

yes :thumbsup:

and Ornery was right, if your kids don't listen and do what you tell them, you are already doomed before you spank them. the spanking just adds to your failure as a parent and as a human being. someone should come punch you in the face
 
Originally posted by: slayer202


yes :thumbsup:

and Ornery was right, if your kids don't listen and do what you tell them, you are already doomed before you spank them. the spanking just adds to your failure as a parent and as a human being. someone should come punch you in the face

So spanking a child for misbehaving is wrong, but punching someone in the face isn't? I'm confused.

 
Originally posted by: thebigdude
Originally posted by: slayer202


yes :thumbsup:

and Ornery was right, if your kids don't listen and do what you tell them, you are already doomed before you spank them. the spanking just adds to your failure as a parent and as a human being. someone should come punch you in the face

So spanking a child for misbehaving is wrong, but punching someone in the face isn't? I'm confused.

if something things spanking their kid is ok, im saying they deserve to be punched in the face, because i dont see a difference
 
Originally posted by: slayer202
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: slayer202
wow, the vast majority agrees with it. you people are crazy. get out of the trailer park. why do you think your kids hate you and you raised a worthless child
The ones that are more prone to be worthless are the timeout babies who never learn respect.

Big problem in today's America.

theres a difference between proper punishment and pushover parents, and between proper punishment and spanking. how can you teach a kid any morals if you spank them? it basically justifies harming other people

No it doesn't. Kids aren't that smart when young. Spanking is a last resort, but necessary at times. It doesn't teach kids that harming anyone is okay, it teaches them that there is a time to straighten up and do what they're told..or else. Doesn't have to be used much, but it has to be a possibility.

How about this: Raise your kids the way you want, and I'll raise mine the way I want.
My kids are fine, and are going to turn out fine. They will be good people.
If they do take a wrong turn somewhere down the line, it won't be because they got a few spankings along the way.
 
Originally posted by: slayer202
Originally posted by: thebigdude
Originally posted by: slayer202


yes :thumbsup:

and Ornery was right, if your kids don't listen and do what you tell them, you are already doomed before you spank them. the spanking just adds to your failure as a parent and as a human being. someone should come punch you in the face

So spanking a child for misbehaving is wrong, but punching someone in the face isn't? I'm confused.

if something things spanking their kid is ok, im saying they deserve to be punched in the face, because i dont see a difference

If you "don't see the difference" between spanking a child and punching someone in the face, I pray to FSM that your retarded ass never encounters an opportunity to breed. Where the FVCK do morons like you come from? :disgust:
 
you people are pathetic, and unfortunatley for your kids, you are raising them to be the same way.

i dont know why, but you fail to see that if the only thing you can do to keep your kids under control is hit them you have done something wrong, and have failed as a parent. if you can not teach them what is right and wrong, and make them realize and believe it, and you need to inflict pain for them to stop doing whatever it is, then you are a bad parent, simple as that. if you cant teach them morals, hitting them will not help. pacfan, you may think your kids are fine, but i would disagree. i am glad you aren't my parent.

and gunslinger, do you hear what you are saying? yeah, its fine to hurt a little kid because you cant speak to them, but a grown man cant be punched for being a bad parent and hurting a child? oh yeah, I'M the moron....sad world we live in
 
Originally posted by: slayer202
you people are pathetic, and unfortunatley for your kids, you are raising them to be the same way.

i dont know why, but you fail to see that if the only thing you can do to keep your kids under control is hit them you have done something wrong, and have failed as a parent. if you can not teach them what is right and wrong, and make them realize and believe it, and you need to inflict pain for them to stop doing whatever it is, then you are a bad parent, simple as that. if you cant teach them morals, hitting them will not help. pacfan, you may think your kids are fine, but i would disagree. i am glad you aren't my parent.

and gunslinger, do you hear what you are saying? yeah, its fine to hurt a little kid because you cant speak to them, but a grown man cant be punched for being a bad parent and hurting a child? oh yeah, I'M the moron....sad world we live in


What you don't seem to be understanding is that they weren't saying they beat the hell out of their kids every day. Pacfanweb said "Doesn't have to be used much, but it has to be a possibility."
 
It's a very subjective area, a whack on the butt to get their attention is something a do time to time ..... but all out cheek lashing is out of the question.
 
kids need a good leather belt across the ass more times than not..

bust that ass they wont repeat the issue.
 
spanking teaches kids cause and effect. u hit your sister, u get beat. later in life, u steal, u go to jail.
 
Originally posted by: CVSiN
kids need a good leather belt across the ass more times than not..

bust that ass they wont repeat the issue.

you have to teach them WHY and make them believe you are right, not just scare them from doing whatever it is...

let me ask you crazy ****** this...I am very curious to how you answer it. I am betting it will just be a lot of OMG YOU ARE DU BMM1~!~

How can you justify spanking a child to get a point across, where others can do it just as well WITHOUT spanking, and by actually parenting? If you kid really does not listen no matter what you tell them, it is either A) you are not talking to them correctly or you are getting angry or whatever, or B) your child is stupid, and guess why, its because you are stupid, and guess why, your dad hit you as a kid, and why? BECAUSE HE WAS STUPID. and it goes on and on
 
I was spanked as a kid. My parents were generally very fair, didn't spank overly hard and always talked to me about why they were doing it first. That anticipation while sitting through the talk was always worse than the spanking itself.
 
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