Poll : Spanking Children

[Aquila76]

It worked fine for me. I wasn't spanked for everyday little things, but the things I did get a spanking for I'd probably get hit for today ayway.
I understand now the meaning behind the spankings I got; I wouldn't have then. You can't reason with children of young ages, so you use gentle force.

 

[captains]

beat the crap outta them...its whats wrong with these new generations... bad parenting and no beatings

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: slayer202
you people are pathetic, and unfortunatley for your kids, you are raising them to be the same way.

i dont know why, but you fail to see that if the only thing you can do to keep your kids under control is hit them you have done something wrong, and have failed as a parent. if you can not teach them what is right and wrong, and make them realize and believe it, and you need to inflict pain for them to stop doing whatever it is, then you are a bad parent, simple as that. if you cant teach them morals, hitting them will not help. pacfan, you may think your kids are fine, but i would disagree. i am glad you aren't my parent.

and gunslinger, do you hear what you are saying? yeah, its fine to hurt a little kid because you cant speak to them, but a grown man cant be punched for being a bad parent and hurting a child? oh yeah, I'M the moron....sad world we live in

I should know better than to even attempt to argue with you - someone who is what? 15? 16 years old? :roll:

Who the fvck said anything about "beating" kids, or repeatedly hitting them for all their mistakes? You can't just make up stupid, dumbfvck accusations like that and then try to argue agaisnt them. :roll: And how the FVCK do you "simply sit down and talk and teach morals" to a 2-3 year old?

Don't even fvkcing THINK of calling me a bad parent, you lazy, worthless troll. Just because you're precious mommy and daddy are too fvcking busy with their own selfish lives to actually try and effectively teach you right from wrong, don't try to put that lazy sh1t on the rest of us real parents who understand that kids come in a variety of shapes, sizes, and mental states, and require an extensive toolbox of equipment to help mold and shape them in something other that snot-nosed, wanna-be internet thugs like you and your ilk.

If you child magically responds to "No, No, honey-bunch, don't take that pencil and stab your baby sister with it," then more power to you. Feel feel free to sit down and have a deep and logical conversation on the morals of right and wrong with your 2 year old. If, instead - like the majority of toddlers - you have to repeatedly take it away from him, then ultimately swat his backside and issue a stern "No," then that's equally as fine.

Who the fvck are you to decide that "your way" should be the only way? Know-nothings like yourself have no place in ultimately deciding what non-endangering/damaging tools parents have at their disposal.

Dumb ass.

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: slayer202
you people are pathetic, and unfortunatley for your kids, you are raising them to be the same way.

i dont know why, but you fail to see that if the only thing you can do to keep your kids under control is hit them you have done something wrong, and have failed as a parent. if you can not teach them what is right and wrong, and make them realize and believe it, and you need to inflict pain for them to stop doing whatever it is, then you are a bad parent, simple as that. if you cant teach them morals, hitting them will not help. pacfan, you may think your kids are fine, but i would disagree. i am glad you aren't my parent.

and gunslinger, do you hear what you are saying? yeah, its fine to hurt a little kid because you cant speak to them, but a grown man cant be punched for being a bad parent and hurting a child? oh yeah, I'M the moron....sad world we live in

I should know better than to even attempt to argue with you - someone who is what? 15? 16 years old? :roll:

Who the fvck said anything about "beating" kids, or repeatedly hitting them for all their mistakes? You can't just make up stupid, dumbfvck accusations like that and then try to argue agaisnt them. :roll: And how the FVCK do you "simply sit down and talk and teach morals" to a 2-3 year old?

Don't even fvkcing THINK of calling me a bad parent, you lazy, worthless troll. Just because you're precious mommy and daddy are too fvcking busy with their own selfish lives to actually try and effectively teach you right from wrong, don't try to put that lazy sh1t on the rest of us real parents who understand that kids come in a variety of shapes, sizes, and mental states, and require an extensive toolbox of equipment to help mold and shape them in something other that snot-nosed, wanna-be internet thugs like you and your ilk.

If you child magically responds to "No, No, honey-bunch, don't take that pencil and stab your baby sister with it," then more power to you. Feel feel free to sit down and have a deep and logical conversation on the morals of right and wrong with your 2 year old. If, instead - like the majority of toddlers - you have to repeatedly take it away from him, then ultimately swat his backside and issue a stern "No," then that's equally as fine.

Who the fvck are you to decide that "your way" should be the only way? No-nothings like yourself have no place in ultimately deciding what non-endangering/damaging tools parents have at their disposal.

Dumb ass.

Know-nothings

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: dainthomas

Know-nothings

Aye. Corrected.

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: slayer202

Originally posted by: CVSiN
kids need a good leather belt across the ass more times than not..

bust that ass they wont repeat the issue.

you have to teach them WHY and make them believe you are right, not just scare them from doing whatever it is...

let me ask you crazy ****** this...I am very curious to how you answer it. I am betting it will just be a lot of OMG YOU ARE DU BMM1~!~

How can you justify spanking a child to get a point across, where others can do it just as well WITHOUT spanking, and by actually parenting? If you kid really does not listen no matter what you tell them, it is either A) you are not talking to them correctly or you are getting angry or whatever, or B) your child is stupid, and guess why, its because you are stupid, and guess why, your dad hit you as a kid, and why? BECAUSE HE WAS STUPID. and it goes on and on

personally Im sick and tired of these new generation of spoiled little brats..
todays kids have no respect for adults.. they mouth off they misbehave and they generally show no manners..

time outs do not work.. grounding does not work.. the only way to make a child understand is to train them... just like an animal.
Children in past generations before all these bleeding heart liberals came and said that spanking is abuse.. were way better behaved.

i weep for the future..

 

[slayer202]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: slayer202

Originally posted by: CVSiN
kids need a good leather belt across the ass more times than not..

bust that ass they wont repeat the issue.

you have to teach them WHY and make them believe you are right, not just scare them from doing whatever it is...

let me ask you crazy ****** this...I am very curious to how you answer it. I am betting it will just be a lot of OMG YOU ARE DU BMM1~!~

How can you justify spanking a child to get a point across, where others can do it just as well WITHOUT spanking, and by actually parenting? If you kid really does not listen no matter what you tell them, it is either A) you are not talking to them correctly or you are getting angry or whatever, or B) your child is stupid, and guess why, its because you are stupid, and guess why, your dad hit you as a kid, and why? BECAUSE HE WAS STUPID. and it goes on and on

personally Im sick and tired of these new generation of spoiled little brats..
todays kids have no respect for adults.. they mouth off they misbehave and they generally show no manners..

time outs do not work.. grounding does not work.. the only way to make a child understand is to train them... just like an animal.
Children in past generations before all these bleeding heart liberals came and said that spanking is abuse.. were way better behaved.

i weep for the future..

you confuse good parents with pushover parents. just because someone doesnt cause harm to their child means their kids have no respect? wow, nice logic.

and gunslinger, you surprised me even more. tell me what a 2 year old does to deserve spanking. jesus christ, 2 years old??? i'm glad to tell you, but you are a bad parent. i fail to see what a 2 year old can do to deserve spanking...crying? ya, lets hit him so he stops crying :roll:

you are a joke, and people like you shouldnt be allowed to have children.

 

[Finalnight]

Originally posted by: Buck Armstrong
3. Its much funner to spank my wife.

:camera: Pics of said spanking?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Originally posted by: slayer202
and gunslinger, you surprised me even more. tell me what a 2 year old does to deserve spanking. jesus christ, 2 years old??? i'm glad to tell you, but you are a bad parent. i fail to see what a 2 year old can do to deserve spanking...crying? ya, lets hit him so he stops crying :roll:

Your two year old tries crawling in a street, touching an oven, or causing other such harm to itself. A spanking is in order when it involves a situation that could end the toddler's life.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy

Originally posted by: slayer202
and gunslinger, you surprised me even more. tell me what a 2 year old does to deserve spanking. jesus christ, 2 years old??? i'm glad to tell you, but you are a bad parent. i fail to see what a 2 year old can do to deserve spanking...crying? ya, lets hit him so he stops crying :roll:

Your two year old tries crawling in a street, touching an oven, or causing other such harm to itself. A spanking is in order when it involves a situation that could end the toddler's life.

No! You might hurt his feelings if you spank him to save himself from grave bodily harm! :roll:

I assume slayer202 is merely trolling at this point - he can't possibly that that fvcking retarded.

 

[thescreensavers]

only for ages 4-11 its ok but for any one who smacks a 15 or 16 year old is just goign make them more angry so....

 

[Vinny N]

The two times I've passed over this thread, I read the title as: "Spanking Chicken"

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: slayer202
and gunslinger, you surprised me even more. tell me what a 2 year old does to deserve spanking. jesus christ, 2 years old??? i'm glad to tell you, but you are a bad parent. i fail to see what a 2 year old can do to deserve spanking...crying? ya, lets hit him so he stops crying :roll:

you are a joke, and people like you shouldnt be allowed to have children.

Maybe I've given you too much credit. What exactly is your definition of "spanking?" You seem to think that spanking involves grabbing a kid, dragging him across the floor, sitting down with him over you knee, you beating his ass until it bleeds and he's sobbing, then throwing him against the wall and telling him to shut up. I guess if that's you idea of spanking, then I agree with you - spanking is wrong. :roll:

Grow the fvck up, kid.

 

[montanafan]

As an adult, I look back somewhat fondly on the times I was spanked by my parents. To hear someone call it abuse is almost laughable. I understand why they did it, I deserved every one of them, I learned from them because I never had to be spanked for the same thing again, and I understand how difficult it was for them. I remember how, whenever my mother spanked me and then sent me to my room, a little while later she would knock on my door and tell me to come and get a piece of the chocolate pie (my favorite) that she had just made or something like that. I know now that she always did some little something for me after she spanked me because she felt so bad for doing it, and I have a real appreciation for her as a parent for doing something that was so difficult for her in order to teach me right from wrong and to try to make me a better person.

Sure there are other ways to discipline children and whatever works for you is fine as long as it's working, but don't equate spanking children with abusing them. I think most people you talk to who were spanked as children love and appreciate their parents for doing it. That's why they get so angry when people who oppose spanking call it abuse or laziness. You're insulting those loving, caring, wonderful parents that they appreciate for every spanking they got.

 

[Ricemarine]

Ahahaha...

Ok, when I was like 3-11 sure, ok, get smacked with a feather stick in the hand or at the butt. Sure, not as mature, and you don't know much.

But when you smacked me at middle-high school, ok, you just pissed me off. It's one of these times where you start taking the damn thing and start wanting badly to smack the person back.

hahah, I remember... my mom got mad at me for some thing... Like not taking out the trash?... Got smacked with a hanger. I yanked that thing from her. At around age 15... She grabbed an umbrella, smacked me. I yanked that too. Then she took out my tennis racket... :Q

Well ok I surrendered to her for seriously... I don't want to beat her up for it's not right.

 

[eits]

i don't. a 50-year study showed that children who weren't spanked and had things taken away and were grounded grew up to have healthier relationships with coworkers and spouses. they had an overall happier household.

those who did get spanked were more prone to fights and rebel against authority.

i feel like taking things away and grounding or assigning more chores or something is a much more effective form of punishment. operant conditioning works.

also, if you can't hit your pets, coworkers, classmates, adults, inmates, etc, what makes it ok to hit children?

EDIT: yes, i was spanked as a kid.

 

[Geomagick]

I was spanked as a child for being naughty. Because it was only ever done when I had truly crossed the line I do believe that it worked for me.

Quite often young children are unable to respond to verbal reasoning and so physical reinforcement should be used, however only as a last resort and never to the point of injury.

 

[TitanDiddly]

Dang, I accidentally said no instead of yes. I agree with it.

 

[acemcmac]

I think it is possible to be a successful parent without spanking, but that is highly dependant on having very intelligent kids who can rationalize on a near adult level by the time they hit puberty. >80% of kids need to be spanked. At least half of the population of this country under the age of 30 wasn't spanked and just look at how they turned out :thumbsdown:

 

[Jules]

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: dainthomas

Discipline is derived from the Latin "to teach". What are you teaching someone by hitting them?

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Ornery

It teaches kids discipline.

Spanking is punishment, not discipline.

They go hand-in-hand. You can't have one without the other. Don't want punishment for doing something wrong? Learn to discipline yourself to do the right thing.

Wrong, lugnut. You can have spanking and STILL not have discipline. You can have discipline with no spanking or punishment at all. I know, I've raised two boys well into their teens. You?

If you boneheads would spend as much time learning, as you spend posting here, your kids might have a halfway decent, peaceful, upbringing!

nope.

 

[astrocase]

I wasn't spanked. I lost privledges. That works.

Spanking is for those parents who are unable to communicate effectively to their children as far as I'm concerned. What drives a person to hit their child rather than just ground them I'll never understand.

 

[Jules]

Originally posted by: Ornery
Let's see if I got this straight:

1. Public schools are not allowed corporal punishment, but it's OK for YOU to hit your kid.
2. Hitting your spouse would be considered "abuse", but it's OK for YOU to hit your kid.
3. Hitting your coworker or employee would be a criminal offence, but it's OK for YOU to hit your kid.
4. Professional trainers DO NOT hit their animals, but it's OK for YOU to hit your kid.

It's a dim reflection on the parenting abilities of any adult who has to resort to hitting babies, toddlers, and young children. If a dumb animal can learn without striking it, there's no reason why a human can't. In fact, they CAN and DO learn discipline without ever being struck in any way. It IS possible!

Parents fail to discipline their kids, as well as succeed using either method. The real issue is, which is the preferable method? With a little education, parents can raise kids who learn on their own, without the yelling, hitting, back talking, arguing or any lack of respect. But, who wants to put forth the effort to learn how to accomplish that? :roll:

Be done with it already your just embarrassing yourself with every post in this thread.

 

[astrocase]

Originally posted by: Ornery
Let's see if I got this straight:

1. Public schools are not allowed corporal punishment, but it's OK for YOU to hit your kid.
2. Hitting your spouse would be considered "abuse", but it's OK for YOU to hit your kid.
3. Hitting your coworker or employee would be a criminal offence, but it's OK for YOU to hit your kid.
4. Professional trainers DO NOT hit their animals, but it's OK for YOU to hit your kid.

Damn straight. Although I'm not about to criticize someone who scoots their kid in the butt when they're trying to make them hurry up.

I get the impression that we have a lot of trailer trash in here. I've read a lot of "kids aren't smart", "hitting them teaches them not to do it", and "they're animals and should be treated as such". That's just stupid. You get mad; you take it out on your kid for not listening or screwing up. It's that simple. You aren't teaching them anything other than to fear you when you're mad. In your eyes you're thinking, "well don't screw up and make me mad and we won't have this problem" when you should be thinking about how you can teach your kid right and wrong in a more constructive manner. Teach them what's right and teach them shame if necessary, but don't teach them pain and fear. With all the toys and privileges afforded to children today it would seem to me that grounding is far easier than when I was a kid. How hard can it be for you as a parent to drag your kid to their room, explain to them what they did wrong, take away their favorite toy, and tell them that they can't come out until they say sorry and explain back to you what they did wrong? How hard can it be to serve a kid his dinner for breakfast if they won't eat it? Bad grades? Get a tutor. Sit down yourself and make sure they're learning. Wetting the bed? See a doctor, solve the problem, and use positive reinforcement. Not paying attention? Motivate them with extra privileges when they do pay attention. Your kid didn't call you when he got to a friends house? Go pick 'em up. They can't play there for a week. I'm just throwing out random examples here but odds are a bunch of you spank (beat, or whatever you want to call it) your kids for the stuff above and that's just wrong. I'm not even going to address the asshat who spanks his 2 year old. That poor kid has no clue what's going on. One second he's running around and the next he's being spanked. Yay for that kid. As parents you should understand that kids are a lot smarter than you think. They're sponges and will pick up on what you teach them. A 2 year old will understand that if he does something bad he doesn't get ice cream after dinner. If you're so stupid that you haven't told your kid that playing in the street is a no-no and you're even letting your 2 year old get that close to the street then you shouldn't be having kids. You should child proof your house. If you have open electrical sockets for them to stick screwdrivers in then that's YOUR fault. If you're letting your 2 year old roam around the kitchen stove without you supervising them then it's YOUR fault. The second he gets within 10 feet of an open flame or something hot you should stop them, explain it with urgency, rinse, repeat. If your kid is a bit slow, afford him/her the extra patience that he/she deserves.

95% of statistics are made up but I did read somewhere that most kids that get hit don't even remember why they were hit. They just remember being hit. Now if you TEACH them a lesson on the other hand they might actually take something positive away from the experience. If they're stealing, teach them why it's bad by taking something away from them and NEVER giving it back. That'll sink in.

If you're looking for the "yes sir", "no sir" kid, then my method probably won't work. Go ahead and spank your kid into submission, but I don't want that from my children.

Now with all that said it does seem to me that kids today aren't disciplined at all. I'm not in their homes though so I can't say what's going on but as an outsider looking in I simply don't understand what's going on with today's youth. I walk through the mall or by a school and I just want to drag these kids to their parents and tell them to get them in line. Someone older here want to say if they felt that way years ago too?

An interesting poll would be to see how many people would spank their kids when they weren't spanked as a kid, and visa versa.

 

[pkme2]

When I was 'bad', my dad made me cut some whippy branches from our backyard. They were the 'flavor of the day'.

I think the idea of cutting the whipping rod was scary but not the lectures, The lectures after the whipping, I considered worse.
Some people today still consider the whipping cruel and unusal punishment.
It convinced me that there was a punishement due, if one did wrong.

I'm not perfect and made my mistakes too, but never anything serious. My upbringing did instill respect for myself and others.

Some kids today, have low-esteem of themselves and find off-color deeds as acceptable.
They need something to bring them back to reality. Most parents, me included, have tried our best to handle discipline with the rod early, but switch to common sense in our dealings with our kids.

Restrictions have a definite effect on kids if you temper them with firmness and the "eye'.
Maybe the look hasn't filtered down to the masses. but my dad has it, and boy, it worked!😉

 

[ta8689]

When i was 8 my dad spanked me. Se i peed in his shoe.