POLL: Have You Changed Your Mind?

[bshole]

The ONLY thing Trump offered that the no one in the rest of the Republican field offered and offered better, was a willingness and eagerness to go full on racist. So it's pretty damn obvious why Trump was the choice and how incredibly racist the Republican party has become. And it's their own fault. They've spent years allowing birther talk and treating Obama like 3/5 of a President.

The right never wanted a man that wasn't a politician, they wanted a man who made it ok to hate Muslims, Mexicans, black people, and women's rights. And they got him.

The racism bit worked quite well for him and explains what seems inexplicable. The us vs them narrative is political gold.

 

[bshole]

Can you list where they are? I am curious. While some European nations might have been a choice a decade ago, they are very quickly going down the crapper with the refugee problem.

Here are few for me, your list may differ:
Hong Kong
Singapore
New Zealand
Switzerland
Australia
Canada
Ireland
Denmark
Japan
Austria

I am actually extremely interested in Canada. I live in Milwaukee so a move to Toronto would be doable. I am really over being part of the evil empire.

Japan is on the list because I believe they are the most atheistic country in the world and they have the best engineering. I LOVE their ban on guns too.

 

[TheGardener]

Really? REALLY? Trump is *not* a bigger egomaniac than Clinton? This is a guy who slaps his name on EVERYTHING. Buildings. Planes. Water bottles. Ties. Steaks. Buys a 6' portrait of himself. Goes on ranting tweet storms in the wee hours of the morning defending himself.

Sad.

It's far from sad. Trump makes an honest living from selling and promoting his name. What is sad is that Clinton took money, while she was SOS, from Saudi Arabia and Qatar. What is sad is politicians are making bribery legal. What is sad is taking money from high ranking people in foreign governments who have funded terrorism both in the USA, Europe and the across the globe. You need to rethink the word sad.

 

[thraashman]

It's far from sad. Trump makes an honest living from selling and promoting his name. What is sad is that Clinton took money, while she was SOS, from Saudi Arabia and Qatar. What is sad is politicians are making bribery legal. What is sad is taking money from high ranking people in foreign governments who have funded terrorism both in the USA, Europe and the across the globe. You need to rethink the word sad.

Lol, honest living, good one... Wait, you're not serious are you? Nah, no one capable of writing their own name is that dumb.

 

[bshole]

Lol, honest living, good one... Wait, you're not serious are you? Nah, no one capable of writing their own name is that dumb.

According to Politifact, the Clinton Foundation received between 10-25 million from Saudi Arabia. It does explain somewhat her insistence on removing Assad which is what Saudi Arabia wants. This is why politicians should be prevented from having foundations. They give the impression of influence for cash at best and taint the politician's judgment at worst. It is lose-lose.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...vative-group-claims-hillary-clintons-foundat/

 

[Starbuck1975]

I have changed my vote from writing in Bernie Sanders to writing in giant meteor.

 

[zinfamous]

Really? REALLY? Trump is *not* a bigger egomaniac than Clinton? This is a guy who slaps his name on EVERYTHING. Buildings. Planes. Water bottles. Ties. Steaks. Buys a 6' portrait of himself. Goes on ranting tweet storms in the wee hours of the morning defending himself.

Sad.

He really chose poorly here: look how much smaller his tiny hands look in comparison!

 

[bshole]

He really chose poorly here: look how much smaller his tiny hands look in comparison!

ROFLMAO!

 

[zinfamous]

Here are few for me, your list may differ:
Hong Kong--filthy, crowded, have to deal with invading and rude mainlanders.
Singapore--lol, can't even spit in public or chew gum. hell fucking no
New Zealand--I could do this, but I'd miss variety in food
Switzerland--I would totally do this. Switzerland is awesome, but there's like 2 weeks of genuine summer out of the year
Australia--Beer drunks and beer. what's not to love?
Canada--too much hockey and moose shit, but I could do Vancouver or Toronto, as long as that is far enough away from the Frenchies.
Ireland--I love Ireland. But too goddamn expensive
Denmark--Also expensive. but everyone is happy for some reason. I can't understand why--it's cold and everyone eats salted fish.
Japan--bunch of adult perverts that buy dirty panties out of vending machines. no thanks
Austria--I could do this as well, but Austrians are kind of bizarre. You have to dress fancy most of the time to be "accepted" I would also get tired of fried meats.

I am actually extremely interested in Canada. I live in Milwaukee so a move to Toronto would be doable. I am really over being part of the evil empire.

Japan is on the list because I believe they are the most atheistic country in the world and they have the best engineering. I LOVE their ban on guns too.

I added my reviews

 

[zinfamous]

It's far from sad. Trump makes an honest living from selling and promoting his name. What is sad is that Clinton took money, while she was SOS, from Saudi Arabia and Qatar. What is sad is politicians are making bribery legal. What is sad is taking money from high ranking people in foreign governments who have funded terrorism both in the USA, Europe and the across the globe. You need to rethink the word sad.

lol. This guy said Trump makes an "honest living!"



Sure, tell that to all the people he's stiffed and those on the hook for the billion dollars he borrowed and claimed as his own on a loss.

 

[Jhhnn]

It's far from sad. Trump makes an honest living from selling and promoting his name. What is sad is that Clinton took money, while she was SOS, from Saudi Arabia and Qatar. What is sad is politicians are making bribery legal. What is sad is taking money from high ranking people in foreign governments who have funded terrorism both in the USA, Europe and the across the globe. You need to rethink the word sad.

She didn't take the money. The Clinton foundation took the money & spent it for good causes all around the globe. The Saudis & the Qataris already have access at the highest levels of our govt. Mere fact. Clinton made no monetary gain. She & Bill have, in fact, donated ~10% of their own income to charity for over a decade & paid ~30% in federal income taxes at the same time without complaint.

She actually proposes raising her own taxes significantly, something that attests to her sincerity in a way that no Repub politician can even approach.

 

[zinfamous]

According to Politifact, the Clinton Foundation received between 10-25 million from Saudi Arabia. It does explain somewhat her insistence on removing Assad which is what Saudi Arabia wants. This is why politicians should be prevented from having foundations. They give the impression of influence for cash at best and taint the politician's judgment at worst. It is lose-lose.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...vative-group-claims-hillary-clintons-foundat/

SA has been an ally of the US for decades (unfortunate, but that's what it is). Sticking to official US policy--which is completely agnostic of the individual sitting in the chair at the time--is only evidence of that person following US policy and, well, doing their job.

Nothing more.

The Clinton Foundation wrg to Hillary and tenure as SoS has only ever been above board and went out of their way to separate her from these issues. The fact is Donald runs an illegal "foundation" that isn't even licensed (it has actually been shut down because it's, well, an illegal pyramid scheme) to funnel his "friends" money to pay off his own personal debts and buy artwork of himself that he has commissioned.

it boggles the mind that people try this "but but but the Clinton Foundation!" when you have a legitimate crook right here screaming that nonsense while buried up to his neck in the actual bile that he is trying to shovel over to someone else.

 

[dullard]

According to Politifact, the Clinton Foundation received between 10-25 million from Saudi Arabia. It does explain somewhat her insistence on removing Assad which is what Saudi Arabia wants.

So, let me guess, she should take $25 million from Haiti, poor HIV patients, etc and, what put it in cash on a plane to Saudi Arabia (Trump requested this at yesterday's debate). How could sending $25 million to Saudi Arabia possibly look good in any form to any one?

 

[nakedfrog]

It's far from sad. Trump makes an honest living from selling and promoting his name. What is sad is that Clinton took money, while she was SOS, from Saudi Arabia and Qatar. What is sad is politicians are making bribery legal. What is sad is taking money from high ranking people in foreign governments who have funded terrorism both in the USA, Europe and the across the globe. You need to rethink the word sad.

Sad: the way you deflected bigly so you didn't have to come out and admit that Trump is an egomaniac of massive proportions.

 

[1sikbITCH]

It's far from sad. Trump makes an honest living from selling and promoting his name. What is sad is that Clinton took money, while she was SOS, from Saudi Arabia and Qatar. What is sad is politicians are making bribery legal. What is sad is taking money from high ranking people in foreign governments who have funded terrorism both in the USA, Europe and the across the globe. You need to rethink the word sad.

ROFL he is probably honest when he says he tells 10 year old girls he'll be fucking them soon. He mismanaged his company into the dirt to the tune of 1 billion dollars, and then found a loophole to be bailed out while defrauding the American taxpayer for the next 18 years. He cheats his vendors, swindles his business partners, and thinks it's a big joke that he can get away with it.
He's making an honest living alright.

 

[bshole]

it boggles the mind that people try this "but but but the Clinton Foundation!" when you have a legitimate crook right here screaming that nonsense while buried up to his neck in the actual bile that he is trying to shovel over to someone else.

Well obviously she isn't crooked like Trump is. I did not mean to imply that. I "believe" that the contributions the Saudis have given to her foundation "may" have influenced her position with regards to Assad. That is as strong as I am willing to put it. You have the same facts as me. Based on those facts, it is impossible to know with any degree of certainty. She certainly did nothing illegal. That being said I do not like the idea of politicians having foundations, it merges political power with monied interests and that rarely works out well for the middle class.

I did notice that you knocked down all three countries I listed that were Asian...... Have you looked at the crime stats for Japan? We probably have more crime in Milwaukee than their entire country. The big problem with Japan is that they may be prejudiced against whites. I wouldn't want to be a second class citizen (if it was even possible to get citizenship there).

 

[HamburgerBoy]

The big problem with Japan is that they may be prejudiced against whites. I wouldn't want to be a second class citizen (if it was even possible to get citizenship there).

White-u pig-u go home!

(I don't blame them, there's a history of American soldiers stationed there getting drunk, causing problems, raping their women, etc)

 

[openwheel]

It's far from sad. Trump makes an honest living from selling and promoting his name. What is sad is that Clinton took money, while she was SOS, from Saudi Arabia and Qatar. What is sad is politicians are making bribery legal. What is sad is taking money from high ranking people in foreign governments who have funded terrorism both in the USA, Europe and the across the globe. You need to rethink the word sad.

Laughable. Did you attend Trump University as well? How did you like Trump steak? Or do you prefer gold painted everything in your hotel rooms? The guy doesn't product $hi^ except puff economy. There are plenty of well off snake oil salesmen in this World, and Donald Trump is the leader of the pack.

Clinton Foundation has done great work and Clintons have not drawn any salary from it. She makes an honest living from selling and promoting her name. Do you have any proof of wrong doing except right wing conspiracies. If you do, please call Fox New because they would like to lock her up today.

 

[dawp]

I was considering Jill Stein but since I moved to NC and it's in play I'm going Clinton.

 

[guachi]

I haven't changed my vote this entire campaign back to the beginning of the primaries.

The more I see of Clinton, the more I like her. Any issues I had with her are no different than when the campaign started but I find more and more things I like about her.

 

[WackyDan]

I live in a lower population state. It is thoroughly red. Presidents or presidential candidates rarely or never visit and rarely or never talk about us. How is that giving me a say? My vote has never, ever become even remotely close to making a difference.

An election based on popular vote means that every single vote matters. Politicians have to care about all of us, not just swing states.

I live in a lower population state. It is thoroughly red. Presidents or presidential candidates rarely or never visit and rarely or never talk about us. How is that giving me a say? My vote has never, ever become even remotely close to making a difference.

An election based on popular vote means that every single vote matters. Politicians have to care about all of us, not just swing states.

You forget individual state rights. The electoral college isn't going away.

 

[dullard]

You forget individual state rights. The electoral college isn't going away.

What does a form of electing presidents (US Constitution Article II, Section 1) have to do with individual states rights (US Constitution, Amendment Article X)? There may be a link that makes these inseperable, I just am not seeing it right now. Unless, are you arguing that states themselves can choose to distribute their votes by population? That is true, but it doesn't work state by state in a partisan world. Only those in power can change the state's voting system, and why would they change it to help the other party? That is, if they are in power locally, they usually also have all the electoral votes on their side, thus splitting the electoral college votes harms those in power.

You are correct that the electoral college isn't going away. That fact doesn't make it a good system now that we have 50 widely different states (instead of 13 fairly similar states) either.

 

[zinfamous]

Well obviously she isn't crooked like Trump is. I did not mean to imply that. I "believe" that the contributions the Saudis have given to her foundation "may" have influenced her position with regards to Assad. That is as strong as I am willing to put it. You have the same facts as me. Based on those facts, it is impossible to know with any degree of certainty. She certainly did nothing illegal. That being said I do not like the idea of politicians having foundations, it merges political power with monied interests and that rarely works out well for the middle class.

I did notice that you knocked down all three countries I listed that were Asian...... Have you looked at the crime stats for Japan? We probably have more crime in Milwaukee than their entire country. The big problem with Japan is that they may be prejudiced against whites. I wouldn't want to be a second class citizen (if it was even possible to get citizenship there).

well, these are definitely places that I'd love to visit--especially Japan--but probably not places that I could ever imagine living (Japan would be the closest, though). With Singapore/HK, it's the social restrictions and laws and the crowding. I would probably die of overeating in Singapore, though.

There are a lot of places in Japan that I'd absolutely love to see and I honestly imagine being able to live in a place like Kyoto or some developed city/countryside area. I used to love the idea of Japan when I was younger and what I thought was their culture (the historic noble/warrior/honor culture) but I learned that this doesn't really exist any more. The majority of those kids grew up in a world without adults (effects of WW2 and the capitulation that more or less destroyed the somewhat zealous requirement to honor those before you) and developed into some weird amalgam of asian-american sythesized pop nonsense that grope women on trains and openly read comic book porn magazines well into their so-called adult years. ....I find this strange. (I'm not generalizing the entire culture and all the people this way, but there's obviously a huge segment that behaves this way because it has reached a point where it can only be tolerated because it is either impossible to discipline this lifestyle towards some other behavior, or because it is actually endorsed; and you really don't find this anywhere else.)

 

[fskimospy]

What does a form of electing presidents (US Constitution Article II, Section 1) have to do with individual states rights (US Constitution, Amendment Article X)? There may be a link that makes these inseperable, I just am not seeing it right now.

You are correct that the electoral college isn't going away. That fact doesn't make it a good system now that we have 50 widely different states (instead of 13 fairly similar states) either.

It's not going away but it could conceivably be rendered irrelevant in our lifetimes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact

You could probably take comfort in the idea that your vote doesn't really matter no matter what state you live in though. Even if it's a swing state your vote comprises such a tiny percentage of the margin that it's not really important then either.

 

[dullard]

It's not going away but it could conceivably be rendered irrelevant in our lifetimes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Popular_Vote_Interstate_Compact

You could probably take comfort in the idea that your vote doesn't really matter no matter what state you live in though. Even if it's a swing state your vote comprises such a tiny percentage of the margin that it's not really important then either.

That would be nice if it went country-wide.

Yes, in a population of 300+ million, one vote doesn't mean much. But according to 538's voter power index, voters in Pennsylvania have a power of 3.4 and voters in my location have a power of <0.1 (that isn't exact, so, I'll just assume 0.05 for this post). That means that someone's vote in Pennsylvania counts as ~68 of my votes. It doesn't need to be 1:1, but 68:1 is just wrong.

But it isn't the single voter that matters. There are a million voters like me here, all of which have essentially zero voter power. We are all ignored. Agriculture (6% of our GDP) came up a grand total of 0 times in the debates if I recall correctly (I didn't see the VP debate though). It only came up indirectly in Trumps anti-NAFTA rants in which killing NAFTA would kill farming in the US. I'm a flyover voter, but also a flyover state. In the EC, politicians can ignore flyover states (except Iowa) and it won't change a thing. But, the flyover states are ~20% of the population. Ignore the flyover states in a popular vote scenario and you lose.