POLL : Do you support internment (prison) camps for Arabs living in the US?

[StageLeft]

But I think I could support declaring those Arabs here in the country illegally as prisoners of war and keeping them in a secure location.

No doubt. But then shouldn't ANYBODY in this country here illegally be dealt with in some fashion?



Back to the original point of regular lega citizens I bet that the muslims/arabs in the US military (there are some) would fight REALLY well if their parents were rounded up wouldn't they?! Nothing like that to raise one's morale!

 

[MSNY]

Well, just the suggestion of putting a whole group of people in a prison camp seems scary to me.

That would be my only concern. I do of course concede you stated it may never be done. I know we
have been through a lot in the last few weeks but this is not what American's are about.

As far as heads being examimed...mine seems fine and working perfectly.

A few rotton apples does not make whole barrel bad....

 

[OrByte]

It's the attitude of profilling a group of people based on there decent that is troubling here your words not mine


Which is NOT the point that I was trying to make. Neither are those MY WORDS.

I do not PROFILE a group BASED on their DECENT.

Let me back up for you.

The question raised whether or not I support putting Arabs in camps.

I said yes, in the EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES. Which may or may not happen.

I did not say YES because they are ARAB and due to the fact that they are of middle eastern decent they should all be put into camps. I said yes because again..in EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES no methods of preserving this country will be left out.

But as I said before, it probably will never happen.

THose are MY words. Look them over. CAREFULLY.

 

[OrByte]

And let me apologize for more tone upfront...I kinda had a rough day at work...

sorry MSNY.

Sorry khtm


*me looking for a hug*

 

[OrByte]

Skoorb- your mind always works "From outside the box"

everypost of yours (well, not every post) has an interesting twist that is so right on the money!!

I love it!

 

[MSNY]

OrByte -

No problem. I got wide shoulders. Were only discussing the possibilty right ? No one is accusing anyone here of anything. STAY COOL !

Take a deep breath exhale....feel better now !

I'm curious though because you left the impression "EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES no methods of preserving this country will be left out"...

Who makes the determination of when things are extreme enough to put an ethnic group of people in jail ?

 

[etech]

Skorob, "I bet that the muslims/arabs in the US military (there are some) would fight REALLY well if their parents were rounded up wouldn't they?! Nothing like that to raise one's morale! "


Look up the record of the Japanese-American division that served during WWII in Europe. They had a very distinguished record.

The "Purple Heart Battalion"

One of my father's duties early in the war was to escort Japanese-Americans from the west coast to the east coast when they were forming that division. He later went on to serve in the Pacific theater.

 

[chiwawa626]

IM FVCKIN DISGUSTED THAT 18 VOTED YES ....

 

[OrByte]

Who makes the determination of when things are extreme enough to put an ethnic group of people in jail ?"...






That is the exact question I cannot answer but try....and I still cannot.

And that is probably the reason why it will never be done....because we (as a society) cannot answer that.

AS far as our government is concerned. I think it is safe to say that if/when a legitimate threat presents itself. A threat to the preservation of this country (government). Which is scary but in the realm of possibility.

BTW- I knew you would be cool about my "outburst" It is nice to have a thoughtful discussion no?

I will try...


*edit cuz i left out the right quote*

 

[chiwawa626]

Musilims feel for eachother because they have somehting in common, rounding up innocent muslims or arabs will cause the rest of the innocent ones world wide to form hate for america...internment camps just make the situation even worse....plus it will just piss the extremists off even more....

 

[chuckieland]

this is not acceptable
it is prob more benfit to get the arabs america to do some undercover

 

[Cyberian]

<< No doubt. But then shouldn't ANYBODY in this country here illegally be dealt with in some fashion? >>


Yes.

 

[Texmaster]

Guys, don't play Luckster's game.

He's a self serving elitest and he's bound and determined to show all of us how "enlightened" he is.

He takes the ractions of some people in their most venerable and raw form right after this attack and blows it out of porportion to make himself feel better about his anti-war stance.

Only a pathetic coward would take advantage of this tragic situation and prey upon the raw emotions of people so close after an event like this and then stick his nose upward towards the sky so we all admire his elitism.

Don't play his game.

 

[MSNY]

I guess my only thoughts here is that we all want to be safe and feel safe. As long as 9/11 is with us there is a part of us that is scared to death.

I'm also scared by the fact that it would not be right or moral to lockup an entire goup of Arab Americans based solely on a judgment call based on some leaders misled facts.

Stalin, Hitler, and OBL would never blink an eye of remorse to imprision or destroy us....but as an American I don't want to become like them. NO !

I pray America would do something better...

 

[StageLeft]

Texmaster So....how did you vote?


Skoorb- your mind always works "From outside the box"


Thanks - I do try...well sometimes I don't like when my entire post might be only "Your mom.". I'm not really trying then.

 

[Lucky]

<< Guys, don't play Luckster's game.

He's a self serving elitest and he's bound and determined to show all of us how "enlightened" he is.

He takes the ractions of some people in their most venerable and raw form right after this attack and blows it out of porportion to make himself feel better about his anti-war stance.

Only a pathetic coward would take advantage of this tragic situation and prey upon the raw emotions of people so close after an event like this and then stick his nose upward towards the sky so we all admire his elitism.

Don't play his game. >>





I guess you are in support of locking up arabs, and are annoyed that the majority disagrees with you?

 

[mastertech01]

NO citizen should be subjected to internment camps. That was already proven a poor choice during WWII. However I believe all NON CITIZENS should be required to have ID, and there whereabouts and activities monitored if they came in to the country from a known harbor of terroist activity. Each one should have an American Citzen sponsor.

 

[Texmaster]

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<< Guys, don't play Luckster's game.

He's a self serving elitest and he's bound and determined to show all of us how "enlightened" he is.

He takes the ractions of some people in their most venerable and raw form right after this attack and blows it out of porportion to make himself feel better about his anti-war stance.

Only a pathetic coward would take advantage of this tragic situation and prey upon the raw emotions of people so close after an event like this and then stick his nose upward towards the sky so we all admire his elitism.

Don't play his game. >>





I guess you are in support of locking up arabs, and are annoyed that the majority disagrees with you? >>





I rest my case.

 

[cmdavid]

As an arab in this country (im Egyptian) I must say that I am hurt by the idea of internment camps... I mean, sure I'm Egyptian, by skin color and background.. but I'm just as American as any of you, except that our citizenship was earned.... well, I didn't, but my mother and father did... they were both born and raised in Egypt as Christians and had to endure harsh persecution. because 95% of the people in Egypt are muslim....the purpose of moving to America was for religious freedom and to avoid persecution for any reason...and to make sure that my brother, my sister, and myself were provided w/ the freedom that anybody deserves.... now, by suggesting interment camps... their reasoning for moving to America in the first place will be gone.. not because of religion however, but because of race??!!

now they are both working for the federal government and are providing as much arabic translation and expertise assistance as possible to help with anything and everything they possibly can..

now I was fortunate enough to be born in this country... but they had to earn their citizenship... they are truly Americans, they serve the government and have been doing so for 20+ years...and are actually helping find the people who are responsible for the september 11 attacks.... as a matter of fact.. my Father is now preparing to take a 1 year trip to Qatar for "business" with the federal government... unaccompanied.. that means w/out family... all by himself.. hes not going to be home for Christmas, or my sister's birthday, or my birthday, or his anniversary, or my mother's birthday, or my brother's birthday, or father's day, or mother's day... all this to help the US government.... now i wanna hear why he deserves to be in an internment camp....

edit.. sorry.. i forgot to add.. .let me say that im not too familiar w/ internment camps and dont know exactly "who" they go after.. whether its just non-citizens or what... so.. before im flamed for speaking i just wanted to add that...

 

[Texmaster]

<< Texmaster So....how did you vote? >>





If you have to ask suck a rediculus question of such a horrendus proposition then you really don't know me.

 

[Lucky]

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<< Texmaster So....how did you vote? >>





If you have to ask so a rediculus question of such a horrendus proposition you really don't know me. >>




Thats a yes.

 

[AreaCode707]

Absolutely not! Look at it from a non-racial POV - that's the equivelant of taking away the driver's license of everyone who's ever had or will have a single drink as a precaution against drunk driving. They aren't drunk drivers and most won't ever be. Innocent people can't be imprisoned for the misdeeds of others.

 

[StageLeft]

However I believe all NON CITIZENS should be required to have ID, and there whereabouts and activities monitored if they came in to the country from a known harbor of terroist activity. Each one should have an American Citzen sponsor.

I'm not a citizen but I would have no problem with carrying some special ID, because I've done nothing wrong! I don't see how all of them could get an American Citizen sponsor though. That could be difficult...

The Senate, I believe, recently as part of the terrorism bill is able to grab non-citizens for up to 7 days without specific charges. Some people were pushing for an indefinite length of time but that was dismissed. This doesn't bother me, but if I was on the receiving end it probably would, and if I was of middle-eastern decent I can't say for sure I'd feel the same way as I do now.

 

[Geekbabe]

No !!! the very question offends me deeply !!!

 

[Texmaster]

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<< Texmaster So....how did you vote? >>





If you have to ask so a rediculus question of such a horrendus proposition you really don't know me. >>




Thats a yes. >>



What's it like being that stupid?