POLL : Do you support internment (prison) camps for Arabs living in the US?

[veryape]

Racial profiling is one thing, but internment camps is an entirely different thing and is wrong in my opinion. Its a stupid question and should be treated as such. I do not even know why I am giving you a real answer, but I guess you are serious in your need to find out where we all stand, although I think I pretty much speak for the majority and think you should have probably realized that. No offense intended.

I totally agree with racial profiling and if people cannot deal with that then they are going to have problems because it cannot be stopped. We are scared and we need to make sure that we stop any attack that we possibly can, and if that means we need to look at them because they are of middle eastern decent the so be it. I would have not problem being profiled had it been white men with blonde hair and green eyes in their late twenties but it was not, it was people of middle eastern origin and as such we need to look at them in a different light, like it or not. It sucks but my life and my fellow Americans lives are worth more than someones pride. And for those that think it violates your constitutional rights, all I have to say is you need to re-read the constitution.

 

[FrysInsider]

10 people here support prison camps...and the night is still young.

 

[Tripleshot]

I do not want to see internment unless it is a last ditch effort for the protection of middle eastern peoples who may come under attack in this country from radical whites like myself/Sarcasm.

Internment does not equate to prison. It is protection and observation. Anything that would happen in this day and age would not duplicate the entermnent of Japenese in WWII.

The processing of middle eastern decent peoples may very well expose the radical elements in this country that would cause us harm. All of what I am saying is scenerio conjecture from places like rand corporation. They are a "think tank" who study things like this.

Why would these thoughts come along? Read the link Konichewa posted. Themn maybe you will understand,you are losing freedoms every day since 9/11. There will come a time( about the time a suitcase nuke goes off in San Fran) that everyone of you nay sayers will be clammering to have justwhat I speak of take place. But even I know it would take such an act to make enternment a reality.

The fact is, it has been used in the past and it can be used again. It is not out of the realm odf possibility. I have said time and time again, men and women of middle eastern extraction who profess to support the US policy against terrorism NEED to proclaim that loudly. Red necks will seek them out and hurt them if they don't. Hell ,they drug a black man chained to a truck bumper not long ago, just because of the color of his skin. This is reality folks. Sh!t happens. People are scared and worried. They have every right to feel scared. You think anthrax is bad? That is nothing. Read between the lines. Small pox is next and much more devistating. Do you know for a fact that middle eastern neighbor of yours has nothing to do with terrorism? Do you know your middle eastern neighbor?

Do you know your neighbor?

BTW, never doubt my patriotism unless you are prepared to defend yourself. :disgust:

 

[Viper0329]

heck no

 

[StageLeft]

Skoorb is VERY happy to see that the vast majority of people here say no.

I think it undermines what America is about. Almost everybody in the US is either an immigrant or a descendent of an immigrant. Almost all Arab Americans in the US are good people. Some aren't. Some white americans aren't. Working & living with Arab Americans will show the world that the US is not all talk, but it walks the walk and puts its money where its mouth is with freedom.

Furthermore, not just because it is wrong, but good frigging lucky getting ANY cooperation from Arabs in this country if you start putting them in prisons. Its an excellent way to breed resentment (which would not be ill-founded in such a case), and an excellent way to ensure that any 'ratting out' by Arabs if they see a terrorist among them is less likely to occur.

Disclaimer: I'm not saying all the terrorists or those who worked with them were Arabs btw

 

[Mustangrrl]

I think it's a ridiculous idea. I also think most people who say it's a good idea, or necessary, would be horrified if fellow Americans were detained in foreign prison camps--they would be downright indignant, talking about how "inhumane" it is, and how the people of that country were monsters/ba$stards, etc. I know it's been done in the past here, but I like to think we're above that now. I don't want to be the trashy hypocrites of the planet.

 

[FrysInsider]

Tripleshot:



<< BTW, never doubt my patriotism unless you are prepared to defend yourself. >>




<------ Doubting your "Patriotism" right now....what are you gonna do about it?


Don't go confusing being a Patriot with being a Pvssy.

 

[pcmodem]

Good afternoon,
It's hard to tell whether this is a sincere post or an inflammatory post created with less than ideal motives.

As someone whose mother and uncles were born in Manzanar during the 1940s and whose family, like most Japanese American families, lost everything and had to start from scratch after WWII, I can say that Internment Camps are not only not a solution, but even the suggestion of them I find to be rephrensible.

If there are Arab criminals, then we have more than enough prisons into which they can be placed. Leave the innocent Arabs alone (99.9999999999999%).

However, there is an indirect point raised: wheras Pearl Harbor was committed by Japan with help from Japanese living in America, September 11th and the 1993 WTC bombings were carried out with the aid of Arabs living in the USA. It boggles the mind to find out that some even have families and homes here but still did these things.

What's so funny about peace, love, and understanding?
-PCM

 

[Ranger X]

One existed during the WWII and it was wrong then. Nothing has happened during that period of time between then and now that has changed my mind. A lot of innocent people will be hurt because of their race.

 

[StageLeft]

It boggles the mind to find out that some even have families and homes here but still did these things.

Its bloody hypocritical is what it is. They live here and yet also contribute to the terrorism - those few who did help. Like you said 99.X% of Arabs in this country are horrified by what happened and had nothing, nor would ever have anything, to do with it.

 

[Lucky]

<< Tripleshot:



<< BTW, never doubt my patriotism unless you are prepared to defend yourself. >>




<------ Doubting your "Patriotism" right now....what are you gonna do about it?


Don't go confusing being a Patriot with being a Pvssy. >>






He served in Vietnam, I dont think he is a pussy or unpatriotic. Rather, quite the opposite.

I do question his sanity though.

 

[Lucky]

Good afternoon,
It's hard to tell whether this is a sincere post or an inflammatory post created with less than ideal motives.





whats so hard to understand? I read a few comments that made we wonder if the majority of people felt the same way. So I asked the question. Nothign more, nothign less.

 

[StageLeft]

I think this is a great poll BTW cause its interesting seeing where most people stand...we need lots of votes!

 

[OrByte]

It's sure is good to see the sentiment displayed in this topic. But add this fell good sentiment to the fact that our government doesn't feel the same way most of you folks do. If nukes started to go off in any of the major cities of this country you bet you would see "prison camps". Stop to ask yourself why your government would react this way?

When the fit really hits the shan our freedoms as citizens take second teer to the preservation of our country and governement.


Do you really think we (as a nation ) are above that?

Think reality.

 

[DaejangNim]

It is a bad idea, but plenty of arabs left the middle east because they aren't muslim and the attack was a muslim thing, not just arab

 

[MSNY]

OrByte -



<< I mean I would hate to see it too...but if we come to a point were the COLLECTIVE safety of americans cannot be assured by our government and as a last ditch alternative we must detain a certain population.....DAMN, it is hard not to say no. Especially if lives are saved. >>



Maybe we should ask some Japanese families whose parents went through this disgrace even though they were loyal Americans what they think. This is bigotry plain and simple.

Next, would we require loyalty tests to ?

What is suggested here for the "COLLECTIVE" safety sounds to me somewhat like a communist gulag prison camp.

I thought our society was past this kind of stuff but maybe we have not learned from past mistakes of the 50's. Maybe not.

 

[MrCraphead]

I'd just like to say that I'm relieved to learn that 73.4% of the people say NO. thank goodness........I was hesistant to put the submit button, not knowing what to expect. :Q

 

[XMan]

I'm curious here . . . do you mean rounding up all Arab-Americans, as was done in WW2 to those of Asian (sometimes not even Japanese) descent?

Obviously that is reprehensible . . .

But I think I could support declaring those Arabs here in the country illegally as prisoners of war and keeping them in a secure location. The way the immigration laws are written, they can't be held for longer than a couple of days . . . if they suspect that an illegal alien might be a terrorist, lock them up. But American citizens? No way. Atta and the rest of the hijackers weren't American citizens, and nothing we've seen thus far has given us any reason to suspect that any American citizen of Arab descent is involved.

 

[OrByte]

MSNY-

refrain from calling people bigots...jeez.


I don't consider my POV as being a bigot.


whatever.





And I can only imagine what being in a prison camp in that time period was like.

 

[Lucky]

<< I'm curious here . . . do you mean rounding up all Arab-Americans, as was done in WW2 to those of Asian (sometimes not even Japanese) descent?

Obviously that is reprehensible . . .

But I think I could support declaring those Arabs here in the country illegally as prisoners of war and keeping them in a secure location. The way the immigration laws are written, they can't be held for longer than a couple of days . . . if they suspect that an illegal alien might be a terrorist, lock them up. But American citizens? No way. Atta and the rest of the hijackers weren't American citizens, and nothing we've seen thus far has given us any reason to suspect that any American citizen of Arab descent is involved. >>




I've read reliable reports that more than one hijacker was in the country legally. (no time to find it, but I know its true.) In terms of the poll, I meant all arab-americans.

 

[khtm]

<< khtm- WHY?


Why should I get my head examined???

Only a hand full of you (and probably less than that) were around the last time the US was in this position......

And the stakes are much higher these days. The weapons much more deadly......


I support the idea...as a last ditch effort. But like I said before, it is never gonna happen. >>



First of all, consider how many Arab - Americans are living in the US. Then consider how many of those are terrorists, are related to terrorists, know someone who is a terrorist, work with someone who is a terrorist, bought a slurpie from someone at 7-11 who looked like a terrorist, or talked to someone once who heard that their cousin's mother's hairdresser once saw a terrorist. I think you'll find this percentage VERY small. Now, reconsider locking all these people up in prison camps.

Another point:
What if circumstances were different, and the 9/11 terrorists were residents of England (or China for that matter). Now would you want all Americans of British decent to be locked up in camps? Or all Americans of Chinese decent to handled the same way? Think about how ludicrous this sounds.

This is WHY I said you need to get your head checked.

-khtm-

 

[LAUST]

Um, right that is something all those other countries would do, not us

 

[MSNY]

OrByte -

Did not call you anything and never would personally.

It's the attitude of profilling a group of people based on there decent that is troubling here your words not mine.

Deal with it...

 

[OrByte]

khtm- and those are almost the exact same reasons why I also said it would never happen.



From what I posted earlier:
I also believe that the government will never agree to initiate that type of activity due to the fact that there will never be a consensus as to when camps could/should be put into effect.

I agree with you...the idea maybe too burdensome to carry out.


I still don't think I need my head examined. And as we are virtually in agreement maybe a head examination may be something you should look into also

 

[XMan]

I've read reliable reports that more than one hijacker was in the country legally. (no time to find it, but I know its true.) In terms of the poll, I meant all arab-americans.

I agree, but I've heard reports that they've had to release suspects because they had no hard evidence to charge them with a crime other than being in the country illegally.

The number of illegals combined with those on student visas like the hijakcers can't be that large.

But I'd say this conversation is moot, because I'd be willing to bet that every Arab that's here on a student visa has an FBI agent or two on them like a cheap suit.