Originally posted by: cashman
Bush, because Kerry is just Ted Kennedy's puppet. And we wouldn't want a intern killer to be in power.
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Kerry agrees with Bush (for now) on gay marriage.Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
I chose Kerry for now... The main reason I probably won't vote for Bush is because of the Gay Marriage thing. We dont' need to amend the Constitution to promote discrimination. Leave it up to the states if nothing else.
Originally posted by: BornStar18
Kerry agrees with Bush (for now) on gay marriage.Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
I chose Kerry for now... The main reason I probably won't vote for Bush is because of the Gay Marriage thing. We dont' need to amend the Constitution to promote discrimination. Leave it up to the states if nothing else.
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I know almost nothing about Kerry. I do know he's very liberal, and I would consider myself basically dead on middle of the road (ie, I can bitch at both sides). However, I do know a few things about Bush which give me pause:
1) Would support ammending the constitution to illegalize gay marriages. To me this means he's either belittle the importance of your constitution, or he's making a mountain out of a mole hill with the gay thing (or both).
2) Biggest percentage deficit in decades. This guy loves to spend. On the one hand he complains about people like Kerry taxing, but on the other he jacks up the deficit, because he knows the average person is too down right stupid to care about anything beyond the next year or so.
3) Some level of proven incompetence. I thought it was a swell idea to oust Saddamn, and I still do, but the guy at the head of hte most powerful intelligence body in the world based, in great part, a war on frankly wrong information. We were all fooled I agree. I thought we'd see some WMD by now, but then I'm not party to the secret info. The war was decently justified just to can Saddamn, but WMD was something always heard about, and it just hasn't come to be. Isn't that a bit bad starting a full scale war when one of your primary motivators is in fact totally garbage?
One problem I can think of with Kerry:
1) Wants to open the petroleum straegic reserve to save on gas prices. This is just a straight up asinine idea, any way you look at it. They're there not to save me a nickel at the pump, but allow the country to operate in times of crisis.
PS - I'm not a citizen so I can't vote anyway.
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: wkabel23
Originally posted by: BornStar18
I always get a kick out of thise one. Democrats are all up in arms about the fact that Bush got bad intel. It is, however, OK that Clinton committed pergury. I don't see how this double standard is acceptable to anybody. Would Bush going to war with Iraq have been better if the reason had been to oust Saddam?Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: BornStar18
Originally posted by: Chumpman
bush
Go ahead and vote for Bush while he is looking for those WMD under his chair![]()
Because Clinton committed perjury 600 soldiers and many more civilians ended up dead.![]()
Also, where did Xiety say it was OK that Clinton committed perjury?
The perjury isn't a valid point. What IS a valid point is that Clinton not only believed there were WMDs in Iraq, he supported the war.
So to say Bush lied is to say Clinton lied, too. To say Bush was incompetent because of this is to say Clinton is, too.
Yeah he picks the "play both sides" route, which is equal union, but not marriage. That's silly, unless you remove marriage from the law books and make it only something personal or religious-based. Well, at least it's better than bush's crap.doesn't support gay marriage
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I know almost nothing about Kerry. I do know he's very liberal, and I would consider myself basically dead on middle of the road (ie, I can bitch at both sides). However, I do know a few things about Bush which give me pause:
1) Would support ammending the constitution to illegalize gay marriages. To me this means he's either belittle the importance of your constitution, or he's making a mountain out of a mole hill with the gay thing (or both).
2) Biggest percentage deficit in decades. This guy loves to spend. On the one hand he complains about people like Kerry taxing, but on the other he jacks up the deficit, because he knows the average person is too down right stupid to care about anything beyond the next year or so.
3) Some level of proven incompetence. I thought it was a swell idea to oust Saddamn, and I still do, but the guy at the head of hte most powerful intelligence body in the world based, in great part, a war on frankly wrong information. We were all fooled I agree. I thought we'd see some WMD by now, but then I'm not party to the secret info. The war was decently justified just to can Saddamn, but WMD was something always heard about, and it just hasn't come to be. Isn't that a bit bad starting a full scale war when one of your primary motivators is in fact totally garbage?
One problem I can think of with Kerry:
1) Wants to open the petroleum straegic reserve to save on gas prices. This is just a straight up asinine idea, any way you look at it. They're there not to save me a nickel at the pump, but allow the country to operate in times of crisis.
PS - I'm not a citizen so I can't vote anyway.
By God, Amused, you've convinced me. I'm not voting for either one this election! Now, let's see, what major party candidate is left, hmmmmmm . . . <B>So to say Bush lied is to say Clinton lied, too. To say Bush was incompetent because of this is to say Clinton is, too.
Originally posted by: TC2181
Originally posted by: BornStar18
I always get a kick out of thise one. Democrats are all up in arms about the fact that Bush got bad intel. It is, however, OK that Clinton committed pergury. I don't see how this double standard is acceptable to anybody. Would Bush going to war with Iraq have been better if the reason had been to oust Saddam?Originally posted by: Xiety
Originally posted by: BornStar18
Originally posted by: Chumpman
bush
Go ahead and vote for Bush while he is looking for those WMD under his chair![]()
The fact that we are still there and still wasting lives is what angers me most.
Originally posted by: Perknose
By God, <STRONG>Amused</STRONG>, you've convinced me. I'm not voting for either one this election! Now, let's see, what major party candidate is left, hmmmmmm . . . <B>So to say Bush lied is to say Clinton lied, too. To say <STRONG>Bush</STRONG> was incompetent because of this is to say <STRONG>Clinton</STRONG> is, too.
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What are some reasons to vote for Kerry, other than "because he's not Bush"?Originally posted by: cheapbidder01
I'm voting for Kerry, but here are some reasons to vote for Bush: