Man, Clinton has got to be a lucky ass motherfcuker then huh, got a well developed economy handed to him by Bush Sr. Diplomatically persuaded world leaders to like him, even got a bj out of an intern, man, if we're only that fcuking lucky again. I'm not comparing Kerry to Clinton, just no more Bush, that's all.
If people don't believe in the fcuking government (leader), they're not gonna invest, hence you have this rapage that's going on with everything (get what you can while you can). So Enron I guess is Clinton's fault also, and incidentally, headquatered in Texas.
The current state of economy is partly due to the burst of the tech bubble, but Monkey in Charge should have concentrate on how to make money for the country, not his cahoots and co, and put more debts on us, the tax payer (that's you, and I and every body else). Yeah... shallow I am.
Originally posted by: cr4zymofo
The economy was turning around when Clinton took office, so yes, he did get handed a decent economy from Bush.
Getting other world leaders to like you really isn't that difficult. Clinton was the king of waffling and would tell everyone what they want to hear.
The BJ...power is an amazing aphrodisiac.
Well, I can't really say that Enron was particular President's fault. If anything the blame should fall on the SEC...you did notice that they took down their accounting firm with them, right?
Well, they're headquartered in Texas so it must be Bush's fault, right?
The economy was in decline when Clinton was leaving office. It's cyclical. I don't praise/blame Clinton for the tech boom/bust just like I don't blame Bush for the most recent recession.
Edit: I almost forgot...here's $0.25, go buy a clue. If you want to vote for Kerry fine, but at least base your opinions on some research and facts.
Hey, all I"m saying is that its a standard practice for those that enjoy the current President to blame the faults of the time on the President that resided before hand, and vise versa. Very rarely do those that support a President actually take blame for problems (economic or otherwise) that occured during their Presidency, often pushing back on the previous President or some sort of randomness in the cycle of things. Of course when something goes positive the President, and those that support him, say it is his policy that has changed things for the better.
Well, my main point was that if you want to praise Clinton for the economic boom in the 90's you need to blame him for the recession we're currently pulling out of.
Personally, I think Clinton was just at the right place during the right time and just managed not to fvck it up.
Care to explain? The only thing I've seen from you is the sort of braying I expect from donkeys and Howard Dean.
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OK...
My reasoning doesn't have proofs, because if I did, then this country wouldn't be what it is right now. Here's the short version of it
1. Bush Sr. went to Iraq, slapped Saddam's wrist "Hey, you can't have all the oil, don't forget who's the pimp here!"
2. Pouty Saddam wants to off Bush Sr., family fued is born.
3. Bush Sr. lost election.
.... the saga continues.
4. Bush Jr. & good-ole-boi network stole election, effectively open doors for rapage.
5. Bush's objective was to make bank for investors, mainly the good-ole-boi network.
6. 9/11 diversion (much like Pearl Harbor, an excuse to get people behind the cause, some questioned, some don't believe)
7. Serious money back to the super rich, pennies to you through "tax cut" ::national debt + ::
8. Serious money made through "war on tarrorisht", the first step to the real objective (venues mentioned above) ::national debt +++++::
9. "War on Iraq", a.k.a I'mma git u back, sucka operation. (more money made here) ::national debt ++++++++++++++++++++++::
10. T.B.D: install puppet regime in Iraq, pump out oil, control oil prices even more (now that we are in OPEC legitimately)
Hey, the above was the shallow analysis of a donkey, take it or leave it; and no, like I said, no evidence. I don't know if I'm too shallow, or perhaps it's you who need to look a little deeper.
ThePresence
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Would you guys just stop with the "Bush stole the election" whining? Just about every recount showed that he won in Florida anyway.
Let me guess...you also don't believe the US landed on the moon, that Oswald shot JFK, etc...
I'll revise my earlier statement. You aren't just politically shallow; you are a shallow, naive, clueless conspiracy theorist.
You are more deluded than Red Sox fans.
Now that this thread has been moved to P&N...none of us will ever read it again b/c we don't venture into that flamefest.
lower revenues from taxes and higher spending ---> vote bush, the guy's got a good head on his shoulders
For the record, these are the results moments after this thread was moved from OT to P&N:
- Total Votes: 382
Results (or somebody else)
38 (votes) 9.95 (%)
I'd vote Kerry
187 (votes) 48.95 (%)
I'd vote Bush
157 (votes) 41.10 (%)
Like I said, I didn't want to stoop, but hey, what the hell (but wasn't it kinda scary how it made sense?). And no, the US did land on the moon, Oswald (scape goat) did shoot Kennedy, but the story is not like what the media fed you, just go back to that pasture and graze, friend. Conversation is over.
to presence: You can't really count what's not there now can you?
to presence: You can't really count what's not there now can you?
mwilding;
Obviously you didn't get the point when I said conversation over. Allow me: STFU already!
Most of what you post and try so fcuking hard to look smart only make you look more and more like a tool. In the begining, I thought you have a valid argument, but as it goes on, I have come to realize what I'm dealing with, so please, no more.
Obviously you didn't get the point when I said conversation over. Allow me: STFU already!
Most of what you post and try so fcuking hard to look smart only make you look more and more like a tool. In the begining, I thought you have a valid argument, but as it goes on, I have come to realize what I'm dealing with, so please, no more.
When I look at Bush and hear him speak, I honestly don't trust what he is saying is the truth. So many times has he looked the American public in the eyes and flat out lied to them. His administration and the CIA's ineptitude cost America many hundreds of lives. I also dislike the direction that Bush is taking our country. We cannot go into every international situation by merely flexing our military muscle, that is a very arrogant and backwards way to approach any situation.
After hearing literally hundreds of John Kerry speeches and debates, I can't say the same thing. I just finished watching an MTV interview with Kerry and you can really tell that he is genuine. He has ideas of his own, and he is not some puppet and will not allow himself to be pulled in different directions when he becomes president. I also like the direction that Kerry plans on taking our country. His views coincide with mine almost exactly, and that is the main reason why I will be voting for him instead of Bush this coming election. I'm sorry Republicans but you lost this one, no president has ever won reelection with a sub 50 % approval rating, and Bush keeps falling and falling, while Kerry keeps picking up steam.
After hearing literally hundreds of John Kerry speeches and debates, I can't say the same thing. I just finished watching an MTV interview with Kerry and you can really tell that he is genuine. He has ideas of his own, and he is not some puppet and will not allow himself to be pulled in different directions when he becomes president. I also like the direction that Kerry plans on taking our country. His views coincide with mine almost exactly, and that is the main reason why I will be voting for him instead of Bush this coming election. I'm sorry Republicans but you lost this one, no president has ever won reelection with a sub 50 % approval rating, and Bush keeps falling and falling, while Kerry keeps picking up steam.
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