Policeman freaks out during traffic stop

[Don Vito Corleone]

Isn't that extortion?

No.

 

[Zargon]

Oops.

I wanted to stress that they should follow the law, and not allow THEMSELVES to take actions that would require IA.

well sure

if people werent scumbags we wouldnt need cops either

 

[isekii]

And the District Attorney offered to drop all the charges in exchange for the victim not suing... yuck.

DA needs to get his ass booted too.
What a piece of shit.

 

[FuzzyDunlop]

well sure

if people werent scumbags we wouldnt need cops either

qft

 

[Eos]

well sure

if people werent scumbags we wouldnt need cops either

Shouldn't cops be held to just a little bit higher standard than scumbags?

 

[FuzzyDunlop]

Shouldn't cops be held to just a little bit higher standard than scumbags?

Yes, they should be EXAMPLES for us to follow. But they are humans too

 

[misle]

marked for home viewing

 

[Eos]

Yes, they should be EXAMPLES for us to follow.

I like this reply better than the first... :awe:

 

[FuzzyDunlop]

I like this reply better than the first... :awe:

 

[Zargon]

Shouldn't cops be held to just a little bit higher standard than scumbags?

of course

but the fact that we need them in the first place means we are going to have some bad apples

this isnt a fairy tale

 

[Snock514]

Officer Dick Head Gets A Black Fucking Eye

 

[SandEagle]

wow, you can tell this cop is an asshole at 3:55. look how he stares that passing car down....just looking to start a fight.

best youtube comment so far:

mistaspot1
@Yodelingpimp Oh look, it's another meat-head cop who thinks "it's a war out there". Fuck you. This is our society. It's not a war out there. Prostitution isn't hurting anybody. Drugs are victimless vices. You've been militarized into these kinds of socially-conservative robots and anybody who isn't a straight-laced choir boy is just as bad as the worst criminal in your minds. What "situation" was he in? He treated a law-abiding citizen like a piece of trash. Have YOU ever been arrested before?
24 minutes ago

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I actually sent an email to the Chief of Police and received a quick reply. Sounds like he is very concerned and intends to take appropriate action. We shall see.

 

[jlee]

I actually sent an email to the Chief of Police and received a quick reply. Sounds like he is very concerned and intends to take appropriate action. We shall see.

Regarding the OP or the most recently posted video?

 

[Eos]

wow, you can tell this cop is an asshole at 3:55. look how he stares that passing car down....just looking to start a fight.

Of course. This is likely what the officer saw:

"We fit a stereotype, that's what he said
Big long car, four big black heads"

 

[SandEagle]

What an asshole. That cop needs to take some lessons from this cop.

and this cop is f'ing awesome. then again, maybe 'jerry' was his son and this was a staged publicity stunt. cop salaries are meh. he'll be on the Today show and Conan O Brien very soon. $$$$$$

 

[BoberFett]

Example: as a private citizen subject to an unlawful arrest, you still shouldn't resist. You should take it through the appropriate channel (i.e. the court system). As an officer in the OP, the appropriate route is through an internal investigation. If the DA wants to take anything from there, so be it - but at that point it's way over the patrol officer's head.

That's right, the average citizen can afford to spend time a couple weeks in jail, miss work, be made to look like a criminal to his friends family and co-workers, end up on the news.

But god forbid we arrest cops and make a scene out of them when they do wrong. We need to give them the benefit of the doubt and worry about it later.

This is why I say all cops are bad cops, because people like you stick up for the bad ones at the expense of society in general. You're the problem, not the solution.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

and this cop is f'ing awesome. then again, maybe 'jerry' was his son and this was a staged publicity stunt. cop salaries are meh. he'll be on the Today show and Conan O Brien very soon. $$$$$$

While I agree he is awesome, I disagree that it was a publicity stunt. The video was posted in Nov, and considering the fact I'd never seen this before Monday, and most (if not all) here had never seen this until I posted it, I don't think he's been on the Today show or Conan O'Brien, and at this point doubt he will. He's just one of the exceptions that generally gets ignored.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Regarding the OP or the most recently posted video?

The OP. I wouldn't feel comfortable posting his response, since this was a personal exchange, but this is what I sent him:

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Chief McKimm:

Hello and I hope this finds you well. I’m sure you have likely received countless messages regarding the recently–released video showing the arrest of a concealed carry permit holder by your Officer Daniel Harless, so I hope you’ll forgive me for adding to the pile.

I have been a criminal and civil attorney for 13 years, and have defended police officers in several matters alleging discrimination and excessive force (my officers have prevailed in all of these cases – knock on wood).

I have watched the entire arrest video from start to finish, and was very troubled by what I saw. Officer Harless’ actions in threatening the arrestees don’t make sense in any situation, but particularly not one in which the threat (to the extent any ever existed) had long since been dealt with. I simply don’t believe that threatening to “execute” a suspect can ever be justified, nor can his promises to pull over and jail the driver anytime Officer Harless encounters him in the future or his threat to “put lumps on” the female suspect. His tone toward the entire situation seemed unnecessarily hostile and aggressive given that, at most, this appeared to be a solicitation of prostitution case. I am also concerned that Officer Harless appeared to begin searching the suspect’s car without consent and without any apparent probable cause, before securing the driver. This makes no sense either as a matter of law or police procedure.

As for the charges against the driver for failing to promptly notify the Officers of his concealed carry status, I don’t think they hold water in light of Officer Harless’ cutting him off when he tried to volunteer this information. To the extent that the driver’s weapon represented any kind of threat to the safety of these Officers (which it doesn’t appear it did – the driver was meek and fully cooperative), that threat was a direct result of the fact that Officer Harless essentially refused to let him notify the Officers about his weapon when they first made contact with him.

I fully understand how dangerous and scary a police officer’s job can be. There are few tougher jobs out there. Officer Harless, though, appears to be a man whose temperament is completely unsuited to police work. He is a hothead and a bully. Frankly, based on his actions and appearance one wonders whether there is an element of steroid rage at play here. In any case, the fact that Officer Harless was so unhinged by this fairly benign situation suggests that he simply can’t be trusted to deal with a TRUE threat. It is fortunate that the driver in this case was such a quiet, nonresistant person – if he had exhibited even an average level of self-confidence it appears Officer Harless would have beaten him senseless or worse.

This video strongly suggests that Officer Harless is a danger to his fellow officers and the public. I hope, for the sake of your department and the people of Canton, that you take action to take his badge before, not after, a much worse incident occurs.

Respectfully,

Tony Edwards

 

[TakeNoPrisoners]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kassP7zI0qc#t=6m5s

Wow, what a douche.

Summary:

Cops pulls over guy
Guy tries to tell him he has a CCW permit
Cop tells him he'll get arrested if he keeps interrupting
Guy finally manages to inform cop he has a CCW
Cop freaks out that he didn't tell him earlier, threatens to beat him and arrest him on felony charges

"I tell you what I shoulda done. As soon as I saw your gun I shoulda taken two steps back, pulled my glock 40, and put ten bullets in your ass and let you drop" :thumbsdown:

Cop is a loser. End of Story.

 

[BoberFett]

Good letter Don Vito, hope it got a good response.

 

[SandEagle]

While I agree he is awesome, I disagree that it was a publicity stunt. The video was posted in Nov, and considering the fact I'd never seen this before Monday, and most (if not all) here had never seen this until I posted it, I don't think he's been on the Today show or Conan O'Brien, and at this point doubt he will. He's just one of the exceptions that generally gets ignored.

i know its not a stunt. :\ +1 derp

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Good letter Don Vito, hope it got a good response.

It did. The Chief definitely gets it. Obviously police officers have a lot of due process rights and so ultimately this officer's fate will probably be decided by an arbitrator rather than the Chief himself, but I believe he will do his best to see that this is handled as it should be.

 

[TakeNoPrisoners]

You think that would end well? Really? After what you just watched?

Better that then letting him run free.

 

[HendrixFan]

I said I would not arrest the other officer on scene in that situation. If he needs to get arrested, it can happen later (probably involving an outside agency - like when a Lieutenant a local department was arrested by State Police). It's not like nobody knows who or where he is. Your solution could end with one, if not two dead people. My solution ends with an appropriate resolution.

That same luxury is not afforded to civilians. How often do officers allow a "hothead" time to cool off before coming back to arrest them? They have the plates and shouldn't have trouble tracking them down. Or in the case of a domestic visit, they obviously know where the person lives. If they are a "hothead" why don't the cops come back later after a cool down period?

Cops should not be above the law or held to easier standards. If anything, they should have tougher restrictions given the powers they are afforded.