interesting that the person in the video can carry, but still does not have to identify himself in any way. how does that work? and why carry an unloaded weapon?
interesting that the person in the video can carry, but still does not have to identify himself in any way. how does that work? and why carry an unloaded weapon?
sandorski
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The guy started to tell him, but got all fuddled up. Looks to me like the guy fuddled himself up more than the Cop did, as the guy started to say it then wondered off on a tangent. The Cop over reacted for sure, but I think he had reason to doubt the Drivers story, since it appears the Driver and Passenger were likely picking up a Hooker.
Don Vito Corleone
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Yeah, this looks fairly indefensible on the part of the officer. He just comes off as a hotheaded, ignorant bully. I find all of his threats, including threats to "execute" the driver, to be an adequate basis for the department to fire his ass.
sourceninja
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Looks to me like the guy was picking up a hooker and deserved to be possibly ticketed for that. But the rest of that is just sickening. Police like that should be fired.
DAMN.
I really want to know where this officer is right now: if he's still driving a squad car, we're all fucked.
I really want to know where this officer is right now: if he's still driving a squad car, we're all fucked.
Don Vito Corleone
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The other part of this we haven't touched on is that it appears the officer searched the car without consent - hard for me to see how he had any reasonable basis to believe there would be evidence of a crime in the car.
That's just fucking awesome. I have the utmost respect for that officer and his professionalism. It's pretty cool that he's local PD as well.
AyashiKaibutsu
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If he just shot him when he had the chance, he would have just been given vacation with pay for a few months until things cooled down and he could go back to work.
"When you have to shoot, shoot; don't talk."
"When you have to shoot, shoot; don't talk."
sourceninja
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I think he would state that the guy "hid the fact he had a weapon on him" and thus he was searching the car because it was used in the commission of a crime.
Or some bullshit.
ViviTheMage
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Don Vito Corleone
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He started searching before he knew about the gun. He just started climbing around in the backseat with no apparent basis for probable cause.
olds
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I disagree with open carry because of the drama it causes. But it is a right.
Some reasons for open carry:
Person can't get a CCW because of the rules where they live. They still want a gun for protection. It takes all of 2 seconds to load an unloaded weapon. Not good if the bad guy is sticking a knife in you but fine if the bad guy starts with someone else.
Peron is trying to make a political point. The Constitution names guns as a right. Some people don't want their rights infringed upon and will make it a point to exercise that right. No one right is any better than another. If someone tried to take away free speech rights, someone would fight for that. If someone tried to take away the right of free assembly, someone would fight for that...
The SCOTUS has ruled that we have a right to defend ourselves with guns. If you can't get a CCW, the only thing left is open carry. Lots of people feel that because of the SCOTUS ruling, that if open carry is banned, CCW will become shall issue.
Most people that are afraid of guns are ignorant of guns. It's just a tool. Whether that tool is used to put holes in paper or stop a bad guy from harming someone is up to the individual. I know I am glad our forefathers had access to them. And you'll wish you had one if Obama defaults on our debt.
It's better to have water and not need it than to need water and not have it.
It's better to have a seat belt and not need it than to need a seat belt and not have it.
It's better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it.
Some reasons for open carry:
Person can't get a CCW because of the rules where they live. They still want a gun for protection. It takes all of 2 seconds to load an unloaded weapon. Not good if the bad guy is sticking a knife in you but fine if the bad guy starts with someone else.
Peron is trying to make a political point. The Constitution names guns as a right. Some people don't want their rights infringed upon and will make it a point to exercise that right. No one right is any better than another. If someone tried to take away free speech rights, someone would fight for that. If someone tried to take away the right of free assembly, someone would fight for that...
The SCOTUS has ruled that we have a right to defend ourselves with guns. If you can't get a CCW, the only thing left is open carry. Lots of people feel that because of the SCOTUS ruling, that if open carry is banned, CCW will become shall issue.
Most people that are afraid of guns are ignorant of guns. It's just a tool. Whether that tool is used to put holes in paper or stop a bad guy from harming someone is up to the individual. I know I am glad our forefathers had access to them. And you'll wish you had one if Obama defaults on our debt.
It's better to have water and not need it than to need water and not have it.
It's better to have a seat belt and not need it than to need a seat belt and not have it.
It's better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it.
The Boston Dangler
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purbeast0
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that jeremy guy is a fucking doucebag, he was trying sooooo hard to get the cop to do something wrong so he could make a viral video.
fail.
Krazy4Real
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Don't worry, he'll be put on leave with pay for a few months while they "investigate". Nice little vacation.
AMDZen
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What I love is how that cop was cool as shit even when the other guy is a complete dick. This guy deserves to get treated worse because hes a total asshole, where as the guy in the OP seems like the most gentle person ever and gets the asshole cop.
Very consistent world we live in.
cop reminded me of bruce willis.
and the cop in the OP should be suspended. he's a bad morning away from shooting someone innocent.
The police chief has sided with the people against the corrupt thug:
Now let's see if anything actually comes of the investigation.
Chief Dean McKimm said:
Now let's see if anything actually comes of the investigation.
Good to see the department isn't trying to minimize what happened, which is what you often see in such cases. That was the perfect response to this situation.
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cop owned him so bad, that was awesome
attempted to troll the cop and failed spectacularly is my guess.
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KK
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