Piracy Question

[OFFascist]

Originally posted by: Topher

How are car theives worse than copyright infringers?

If you have to ask that question then you must really be lacking in common sense.

And how can you justify "the value of something that is limited in quantity should be more so than something that is unlimited in quantity" What the hell is that all about? You obviously haven't thought this out yet.

I take it you have little to no understanding of how economics works.

Would a cure for cancer be valuable to us?

Yes.

I guess it would be worth less than a car, right?

That depends. I dont know many medications that cost $10,000 - $20,000, but I guess if its not a real cure but just a treatment it might cost that much over several years.

I'm guessing what you meant to ask was, would the formula for a cancer cure be worth more than a car. The answer to that would probably be yes. But if everyone knew the formula, the cost of a cancer cure wouldnt be much more than the cost of the materials needed to make it. With medicine its not like everyone can go out and make thier own batch, many people dont have access to the necessary machines and chemicals. However with software just about anyone can make thier own copy.

 

[thirtythree]

Originally posted by: PatboyX
i remember there being a number that you could call...something like 1-800-pir8 something

strange... most numbers I've seen are seven digits long.

 

[CZroe]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: CZroe

Also, instead of my legit copies of XP Pro I use XP Corporate + slipstreamed SP1 and updates with the The Blue List Microsoft Keygen (Generates non-banned Corporate keys). Just because I like the hassel-free installation and troubleshooting on all systems I work on. 😛

I don't follow this. What are you saying?

I own XP Professional legitimately.
I use a version that violates the EULA (Corporate).
I will not install using the discs I have paid for.
"Slipstreamed" is MS' term for the integrated Service Pack 1 installation (It doesn't just install XP & then install SP1).
With this "corp version," SP1 refuses to install on installations using the illegally distributed "well known" key
I do not use the banned corporate key distributed with this version (FCKGW.... etc Most techies recognize it)
I generate my own using the keygen created by The Blue List.
I do this because the corporate version does not utilize or require Windows Product Activation (AKA, hassel) to use or install forever. Hassel is further reduced by including Service Pack 1 on the CD, along with the latest updates and automated entry of my generated key (So I don't even have to remember it).
It may violate the EULA, but no jury would ever prosecute the paying customer that didn't do a dime of harm. MS would never sue a customer that paid for multiple copies of XP just because he downloaded it too.

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: CZroe

I own XP Professional legitimately.
I use a version that violates the EULA (Corporate)...

So, you have a legitimate copy but you use a key gen on a warez copy to avoid having to activate your legitimate copy? 😕

I haven't had a problem with activation on XP Pro. I use legit versions and have made numerous hardware changes, to include mobo/AMD and P4 upgrades. I've never had to make the call to MS, it installs and activates every time. I was starting to think the problems that have been associated with activation were wives tales.

 

[NeoPTLD]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Frdm51472
Shrug stealing is stealing, if yo usee someone going around walmart taking things and putting them in their pcket, do you not feel obligated to notify someone? I think we need a better sense of community in this country, we should all say that committing a crime is wrong and that we will stand up against it.

Depends on who he is stealing from.

Robin Hood was well liked, no?

Spoken like a true hypocritical liberal. It doesn't matter who you steal from.

Stealing a bag of candy from Wal-Mart is as much of a theft as stealing a bag of candy from a kid. Robin Hood was liked by people he played favors for, never mind the harm he causes to other people to benefit them.

 

[Zee]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: CZroe

I own XP Professional legitimately.
I use a version that violates the EULA (Corporate)...

So, you have a legitimate copy but you use a key gen on a warez copy to avoid having to activate your legitimate copy? 😕

I haven't had a problem with activation on XP Pro. I use legit versions and have made numerous hardware changes, to include mobo/AMD and P4 upgrades. I've never had to make the call to MS, it installs and activates every time. I was starting to think the problems that have been associated with activation were wives tales.

I have 3 keys and the corporate version also. Everytime i reformat, i have to call MS. Every damn time. It's like my key is flagged or something. I have the other 2 on standby cuz i dont know what to do with them. I think it's illegal to sell keys.

By the way, the reason i post is because, i get the BSOD when i swapped motherboards. (asus to biostar) and (ecs to asus). Your's go smoothly?

 

[NeoPTLD]

Originally posted by: FFactory0x
Seriously just lethim do his thing. Is it affecting you???? NO!!!! I mean are you gonna wake up tommorow and be like "Damn, i cant go on today cause this kid is selling games" NO!!!!!!
So worry about yourself and go on with your life. YOu will be better off

Some people just have no value of ethics.

Tell me that you don't want people to inform you of using your patents/intellectual property for their commercial gain with absolutely no consideration to you.

We don't just do things that benefits ourselves. If you saw someone fall into a river, what do you have to gain by calling 911?

 

[olds]

Originally posted by: Lazee
...By the way, the reason i post is because, i get the BSOD when i swapped motherboards. (asus to biostar) and (ecs to asus). Your's go smoothly?

Yes, but I formatted first. There is a way to do it without formatting but I don't remember. I think it had to do with uninstalling everything in Device Manager then doing the swap.

 

[Topher]

Originally posted by: OFFascist

Originally posted by: Topher

How are car theives worse than copyright infringers?

If you have to ask that question then you must really be lacking in common sense.

Not at all. I work in intellectual property. Thus, this is something I know quite a bit about.

And how can you justify "the value of something that is limited in quantity should be more so than something that is unlimited in quantity" What the hell is that all about? You obviously haven't thought this out yet.

I take it you have little to no understanding of how economics works.

Quite the opposite. You are still thinking in terms of tangibles items The cure for cancer would be one of the most valuable things on this earth. The actual medicine, a tangible item, would be worth far less than the procedure developed.

Would a cure for cancer be valuable to us?

Yes.

So we can agree on something. 🙂

I guess it would be worth less than a car, right?

That depends. I dont know many medications that cost $10,000 - $20,000, but I guess if its not a real cure but just a treatment it might cost that much over several years.

I'm guessing what you meant to ask was, would the formula for a cancer cure be worth more than a car. The answer to that would probably be yes. But if everyone knew the formula, the cost of a cancer cure wouldnt be much more than the cost of the materials needed to make it. With medicine its not like everyone can go out and make thier own batch, many people dont have access to the necessary machines and chemicals. However with software just about anyone can make thier own copy.

You finally begin to understand here at the end that a cure for cancer is intangible. Medicine is tangible. I believe you are starting to see where I come from now. While I have been harping on a cure for cancer, it is just an example. Just because something cannot be seen physically does not mean it has less value. World peace would be worth more than anything on this earth, but you could never put a "value" on it. Music, literary works, plays and musicals, and other forms of entertainment have value, as does teaching, yet how many would expect to be taught something without some compensation to the teacher? How much were World Series tickets worth? The argument put forth by many in this thread would seem to indicate that anything non-tangible has a lesser value and as such is okay if it is stolen, yet how many would try to sneak into a World Series game without buying a ticket? I realize that most people don't understand the value of these things, but as someone who works and also makes a living off of the intangibles, I must disagree with many of you, as you would be willing to take the money I rightfully deserve (which isn't much) and deny me the opportunity to feed my kids. Just because it is Micro$haft doesn't make it any less of a crime. I despise them as much as the next guy, but where do you draw the line? At a million-dollar company? a $100k company? a poor starving musician? There is no sliding scale to the law that says it is okay if you steal from the rich.

 

[Tom]

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Originally posted by: Topher

How are car theives worse than copyright infringers?
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Many copyright infringers are actually worse than car thieves, since not only do they steal the item, they make it easy for thousands of others to also steal the item by distributing it.

 

[FFactory0x]

this is still going on. LOLOLOL

 

[Topher]

Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch
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Originally posted by: Topher

How are car theives worse than copyright infringers?
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Many copyright infringers are actually worse than car thieves, since not only do they steal the item, they make it easy for thousands of others to also steal the item by distributing it.

🙂

 

[skarydrunkguy]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation
nark

its narc. not nark. its an abbreviation of narcotic, as in undercover narcotics officer. at least get your slang right.

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: FFactory0x
this is still going on. LOLOLOL

😛

 

[Softballslug]

Originally posted by: FFactory0x
Seriously just lethim do his thing. Is it affecting you???? NO!!!! I mean are you gonna wake up tommorow and be like "Damn, i cant go on today cause this kid is selling games" NO!!!!!! So worry about yourself and go on with your life. YOu will be better off

The girl getting raped down the street is none of his business either, neither is the store getting robbed? Where does one draw the line?