phenom X6 reviews are starting to pop up..

[classy]

After reading many of the reviews, its a mixed bag really. Unless you catch a deal like the Tigerdirect one, which appears to be sold out now, on a 1055, they aren't worth buying to build new. The boards are reasonably priced, but to get a full featured board, a comparable Intel X58 or P55 aren't much more at all. The price of the 1090 totally negates even purchasing that one for a new build. You can get an Intel 930/920/860 for the same price. And with a 860 you pay the same for 4gb ram as you do for AMD. Decent processors no doubt, but only certain situations dictate purchasing one. Buying an FX890 does bring features beyond the cheaper chipsets, so you kinda get what you pay for.

 

[Markfw]

As soon as I get my 1090T, I will be doing my own "review". From a un-biased point of view. I will be comparing 2 platforms from many angles.

1) Cost I know my 920 was $300 and my motherboard $170 and memory $160. $630 total
My 1090T will be $310 and motherboard $85 and memory $105. $500 total

Both are almost the cheapest motherboard for the platform. and memory the same except 6 gig vs 4 gig (sort of required for the x58 platform to not handicap it) and the CPU's the same price.

2) Performance OC'ing to the best of my ability for my uses. I run 24/7, must be rock solid, and not a high temp under load, reasonable vcore.

and I know I paid $100 more for the ease of OCing, but since the platform was cheaper, trying to make things closer.

So the bottom line will be performance vs heat vs cost for 100% load 24/7 in encoding and DC. I do gaming, but not much, so no benches for that.

Stay tuned this coming weekend. CPU is due Friday.

 

[classy]

As soon as I get my 1090T, I will be doing my own "review". From a un-biased point of view. I will be comparing 2 platforms from many angles.

1) Cost I know my 920 was $300 and my motherboard $170 and memory $160. $630 total
My 1090T will be $310 and motherboard $85 and memory $105. $500 total

Both are almost the cheapest motherboard for the platform. and memory the same except 6 gig vs 4 gig (sort of required for the x58 platform to not handicap it) and the CPU's the same price.

2) Performance OC'ing to the best of my ability for my uses. I run 24/7, must be rock solid, and not a high temp under load, reasonable vcore.

and I know I paid $100 more for the ease of OCing, but since the platform was cheaper, trying to make things closer.

So the bottom line will be performance vs heat vs cost for 100% load 24/7 in encoding and DC. I do gaming, but not much, so no benches for that.

Stay tuned this coming weekend. CPU is due Friday.

Looking at your price quotes, that seems about right. Depending on how a person shops, it would appear to me that when comparing say I7 920/930/860 and I5 750 to AMD 1090/1055, at the most is probably around $150. There are some cheap P55 boards that compare to the cheap AMD boards. But like power and features it ain't a whole lot of difference.

 

[Nemesis 1]

According to Newegg, the X4 965 also got lowered in price by another $10. Keep falling prices and I will upgrade even sooner.

Doesn't Thuban also use less power than the I7 series ?

Honestly, I will be going back to AMD. Right now I have a P45 motherboard and a Core 2. So I need something new to play with now.

And for me, the price premium for a small performance advantage, Intel is not an option for me.

And is it just me, or does the AMD and Intel cpu's pretty much equal out as the resolution increases ? I need to know this information since I will also be going with at 24" LCD.

From what I can tell, Intel owns AMD at lower resolutions, but no where near as much at like 1920.

Someone correct me if I am wrong.

Bottom line Intel is 20% faster at = clocks than AMD . Its that simple. Don't make me go back and pull threads were this guy said 8 threads are useless and 4 is more than enough for forseeable future. There are enough here.

I never ask someone what ishould buy and i never will. I rarely go for the cheapest products as thats what they are cheap products.

I don't care what others buy . What does bother me is the out and out lying . AMD is not = to Intel in performance . That is why AMD has to sell 6 cores for same as Intels 4 core. Today with pricies as they are. I can buy i930 for $294 and a good M/B for 169 and memory is dependent on watch ya do with PC / Workstation.

AMD has an alright product for the price . Intel has a great cpu for the price . As for the 2 core 4 threaded intel . Say whatever but intels is selling these to OEMs like crazy and SB continues with 2 core 4 threads . I personnally like the 2 core best but thats just me . As for price . I really don't give a rats ass. I spend $200 a week on rear tires for the race car even tho they still have tread I shit can them . Nothing like new rubber to protect your expensive racer. I view performance PCs the same way . $100 or 200$ is not a game stopper . Its all about what YOU want. That said buy what you will but don't spread BS stories that anyone can slap you around with . Clock for Clock intel is 20%+ faster than AMD . Than Intel has a higher top clock by about 500mgz depending on what cpu 2/4/6 cores. As for sandy bridge. I really want the 2 core badly . These will hit 5 ghz on air and 5.5 on water easily. With AVX they will beable to compete with any and all 6 cores and 4 core cpus out today in media and graphics work. . Seen your signed in Bob . Care to add to the 2 core sandy O/C comment. LOL.

 

[Makaveli]

Tell us how you really feel about it Nemesis 1

I agree by the way.

 

[richierich1212]

Looking forward to your review Mark. Don't forget to bump up the NB, unlike other "professional" reviewers.

 

[Markfw]

Looking forward to your review Mark. Don't forget to bump up the NB, unlike other "professional" reviewers.

So I can feel free to PM you for advice ?

Mine will actually be more oriented to the casual OC'er, not the hardcore. I do have a life, but I also want to get the most out of my hardware....

 

[VirtualLarry]

Why do Bit-Tech's handbrake results between a stock i7-930 and a 1090T, show the 1090T slower by a bit, whereas TomHardware shows that the 1090T is a bit faster.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-890fx,2613-7.html
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2010/04/27/amd-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-black-edition/5

 

[richierich1212]

So I can feel free to PM you for advice ?

Mine will actually be more oriented to the casual OC'er, not the hardcore. I do have a life, but I also want to get the most out of my hardware....

Yup. I'm currently trying to find the sweet spot for my 1055T right now, still trying to find low enough vcore to run 4GHz. Still tweaking, with vcore @ 1.424v.

 

[Genx87]

When is AMD coming out with a new core? This thing at 285 bucks routinely loses to the i5 750 at 200. And with Sandybridge due out in under 12 months. AMD wont have anywhere else to hide.

 

[soccerballtux]

Performance equalizes at higher resolutions because framerates become dependent on the GPU instead of the CPU.

For me, I could care less if my processor performed 25% better than another at a resolution that I never run, but they run at low resolutions to contrast the differences between the processors.

So you are saying that....The faster the GPU the more the cpu would pull away ?

it's more like...at standard 24" monitor resolutions, CPU doesn't matter as much.

 

[Markfw]

When is AMD coming out with a new core? This thing at 285 bucks routinely loses to the i5 750 at 200. And with Sandybridge due out in under 12 months. AMD wont have anywhere else to hide.

The 1055T is $125 after all the rebates (see other posts), and its a mixed bag of reviews, but it beats even the 930, and overclocked at times.

The overalll concensus I see so far, is that its close to a 930, but cheaper. Faster in some slower in some.

 

[yh125d]

it's more like...at standard 24" monitor resolutions, CPU doesn't matter as much.

Common misconception. CPU matters as much at 1920x1080 as at 1280x720. CPU importance doesn't go down in an absolute sense, just relative to the GPU

 

[RussianSensation]

I thought SB wasn't expected to even start showing up until Q3 2011?

Q3 2011 is for 6- and 8-core Sandys on LGA2011. Dual and quad core Sandy will arrive in Q1 2011 but on a neutered platform with few SATA3 ports, no PCIe 3 (not that this matters much), dual channel ram vs. quad-channel, and each of these 1155 chips will have an internal IGP.

 

[yh125d]

Q3 2011 is for 6- and 8-core Sandys on LGA2011. Dual and quad core Sandy will arrive in Q1 2011 but on a neutered platform with few SATA3 ports, no PCIe 3 (not that this matters much), dual channel ram vs. quad-channel, and each of these 1155 chips will have an internal IGP.

Ah


Seems odd that they'd introduce 2/4 core SB 6 mo. before 6/8

 

[Makaveli]

Yes the Sandy bridge you are looking for is the Q3 one, not the Q1 edition as russiansensation says, I'm curious to know if they are going to go the same memory layout as intel so Quad channel DDR?

 

[Hacp]

For $200, I would still rather have a i7 920/930.

you need to look at total cost of platform. The i7 mobos are twice as expensive as the AMD ones.

 

[Markfw]

For $200, I would still rather have a i7 920/930.

you need to look at total cost of platform. The i7 mobos are twice as expensive as the AMD ones.

Also, everyone needs to stop saying the 920/930 are $200. That only if you live near a microcenter, which MOST of us do NOT.

They are $300, give or take a few bucks, not $100

 

[richierich1212]

lol those not near MC opted for the hot deal for the Thubans from TD

 

[yh125d]

lol those not near MC opted for the hot deal for the Thubans from TD

I actually went with an i5 750 setup from FS/FT for $375 shipped

 

[soccerballtux]

Looking forward to your review Mark. Don't forget to bump up the NB, unlike other "professional" reviewers.

So I can feel free to PM you for advice ?

Mine will actually be more oriented to the casual OC'er, not the hardcore. I do have a life, but I also want to get the most out of my hardware....

will someone please inform the masses of the difference between "bumping up the northbridge" and overclocking the CPU-NB?
There is a difference, yes? It's not that hard to OC, once you've got the cores maxed out you increase the CPU-NB multiplier and then the voltage.

 

[richierich1212]

I actually went with an i5 750 setup from FS/FT for $375 shipped

Have fun.

 

[soccerballtux]

Common misconception. CPU matters as much at 1920x1080 as at 1280x720. CPU importance doesn't go down in an absolute sense, just relative to the GPU

I disagree. 10% of 60FPS is only 6FPS.
10% of 200 FPS is 20FPS.

20FPS sounds a lot worse than 6fps.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Bye bye bottomline AMD

i7 9xx = 263mm2
PhII x4 = 258 mm2
PhII x6 = 346 mm2

While they're not doing themselves any favors having to price their bigger CPU lower to compete, I think they'll be ok. Nvidia seems to be doing fine after all...

 

[busydude]

Originally Posted by Lonbjerg View Post Bye bye bottomline AMD i7 9xx = 263mm2 PhII x4 = 258 mm2 PhII x6 = 346 mm2

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