phenom X6 reviews are starting to pop up..

[busydude]

Bye bye bottomline AMD i7 9xx = 263mm2 PhII x4 = 258 mm2 PhII x6 = 346 mm2 __________________

Its not as bad as it seems, as AMD is still on the 45nm process which is very matured and thus has greater yields than the 32nm intel is using. Intel is actually having a hard time supplying mobile chips to OEM's.

 

[jihe]

As soon as I get my 1090T, I will be doing my own "review". From a un-biased point of view. I will be comparing 2 platforms from many angles.

1) Cost I know my 920 was $300 and my motherboard $170 and memory $160. $630 total
My 1090T will be $310 and motherboard $85 and memory $105. $500 total

Both are almost the cheapest motherboard for the platform. and memory the same except 6 gig vs 4 gig (sort of required for the x58 platform to not handicap it) and the CPU's the same price.

2) Performance OC'ing to the best of my ability for my uses. I run 24/7, must be rock solid, and not a high temp under load, reasonable vcore.

and I know I paid $100 more for the ease of OCing, but since the platform was cheaper, trying to make things closer.

So the bottom line will be performance vs heat vs cost for 100% load 24/7 in encoding and DC. I do gaming, but not much, so no benches for that.

Stay tuned this coming weekend. CPU is due Friday.

I look forward to your review, I also don't care much for games but FaH ppd would be great.

 

[soccerballtux]

so can you overclock this and keep the turbo function?

 

[richierich1212]

so can you overclock this and keep the turbo function?

Yes, just make sure to find the sweet spot because when Turbo kicks in you might not have enough voltage.

 

[lopri]

TechReport

Just realized Thuban's die size is ~350mm2 (SOI) and isn't that just about the same size as Cypress die? Huge, for sure. GlobalFoundry did some magic introducing Thuban, it eems.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

1) Cost I know my 920 was $300 and my motherboard $170 and memory $160. $630 total
My 1090T will be $310 and motherboard $85 and memory $105. $500 total

Is that for the X58-UD3R? I was late to the game (last June) but got my 920 D0 for $214, UD3R to $150 and 6GB DDR3-1600 for $65. Insane performance for the price :O

 

[jihe]

Yes, just make sure to find the sweet spot because when Turbo kicks in you might not have enough voltage.

Can you turn off turbo? I don't want it messing with my overclock.

 

[Markfw]

Is that for the X58-UD3R? I was late to the game (last June) but got my 920 D0 for $214, UD3R to $150 and 6GB DDR3-1600 for $65. Insane performance for the price :O

This is not for the best deals ever found....

This is for "normal" decent prices.

 

[Alex@Nosound]

This is not for the best deals ever found....

This is for "normal" decent prices.

Sounds great for a year ago :awe:

 

[Markfw]

Sounds great for a year ago :awe:

What do you mean by that ? You can't get a 920 for $214 or 6 gig memory for $65, not even close...

 

[hans007]

This is not for the best deals ever found....

This is for "normal" decent prices.

except that ram price have gone up insanely since a year ago when every ram company was clearing inventory just to have cash flow because of the credit crisis.

and the only people have who have 920s for $214 are microcenter people.

there aren't that many microcenters.

6gb of ddr3 is easily $110-120 now. and realistically for people who dont live near a microcenter a 920 is $250ish even today.

 

[Markfw]

except that ram price have gone up insanely since a year ago when every ram company was clearing inventory just to have cash flow because of the credit crisis.

and the only people have who have 920s for $214 are microcenter people.

there aren't that many microcenters.

6gb of ddr3 is easily $110-120 now. and realistically for people who dont live near a microcenter a 920 is $250ish even today.

First... preaching to the choir...

Second... Those prices are still way too cheap

 

[OBLAMA2009]

when are memory prices supposed to go down? theyve been high for quite a while now

 

[hans007]

when are memory prices supposed to go down? theyve been high for quite a while now

a number of taiwanese ram firms nearly went bankrupt and had to be bailed out during the credit crisis.

qimonda (formerly infineon) also went bankrupt.

so capital spending on expansion of ram factories was severely cut due to the recession. i think the reason ram prices fell to begin with was mostly qimonda basically dumping everything while they flailed and died anyway and everyon ehaving to match that price.

i think at one point sandisk was losing 40 cents per GB of flash they sold (yes i know its flash, but the factory lines are basically the same ).

so now that demand has returned at least for computer stuff, and the capital investment plus some companies shutting down happened no one has expanded and it will take a while to catch upa gain. i think from what i read ram is going to be in somewhat short supply until 2011 or something like that. and ddr2 probably will never come down since no one is going to suddenly ramp up production of ddr2 when its on the way out.

 

[hans007]

except that ram price have gone up insanely since a year ago when every ram company was clearing inventory just to have cash flow because of the credit crisis.

and the only people have who have 920s for $214 are microcenter people.

there aren't that many microcenters.

6gb of ddr3 is easily $110-120 now. and realistically for people who dont live near a microcenter a 920 is $250ish even today.

Yeah sorry, I meant to reply to

Alex@Nosound

 

[soccerballtux]

OK so for my board gigabyte said " Dear customer,
Bios is not ready yet until board can passed AMD's validation. please check back with us two weeks later."

So that answers my questions. My board will support it.

 

[Cotswolds]

There sure are a lot of intel fanboy types on this forum.

 

[Rhoxed]

There sure are a lot of intel fanboy types on this forum.

Troll less

The x6's are a great path for anyone on the am2+/am3 bandwagon, and even for lower end 775 rigs, but intel still has the cake with 2 less cores, and AMD needs all the sales possible of Thuban to make BD what they want, so they had no other way then to make this an attractive processor for the price.

I personally will be replacing both of my quads soon with these chips - thanks AMD!

 

[Lonbjerg]

There sure are a lot of performance fanboy types on this forum.

Fixed...

 

[mv2devnull]

Another scenario: You are developing a new threaded application, and you want it to scale to multiple cores, not just 2. A quad with HT, while interesting for the HT behaviour, is "just a quad" in this context. So the largest test system you can afford is .. X6.

 

[Makaveli]

Troll less

The x6's are a great path for anyone on the am2+/am3 bandwagon, and even for lower end 775 rigs, but intel still has the cake with 2 less cores, and AMD needs all the sales possible of Thuban to make BD what they want, so they had no other way then to make this an attractive processor for the price.

I personally will be replacing both of my quads soon with these chips - thanks AMD!

There are alot of trolls on both sides in this forum. Anyone with half a brain should be able to understand why anyone with a Am2+/am3 is happy this is an outstanding upgrade for the price.

And AMD needs these sales to continue work on BD as you put it.

What i've seen on some forums across the web has been pretty funny, i've seen people saying they would sell their i7 rig to by an x6 which it a pointless sidegrade if you ask me.

Then there are people comparing overclocked X6 numbers to stock i7 and having a field day with the numbers....mmkay!

Its going to be very interesting when intel releases that non extreme edition 6 core part that is for sure.

 

[Anubis]

There are alot of trolls on both sides in this forum. Anyone with half a brain should be able to understand why anyone with a Am2+/am3 is happy this is an outstanding upgrade for the price.

And AMD needs these sales to continue work on BD as you put it.

What i've seen on some forums across the web has been pretty funny, i've seen people saying they would sell their i7 rig to by an x6 which it a pointless sidegrade if you ask me.

Then there are people comparing overclocked X6 numbers to stock i7 and having a field day with the numbers....mmkay!

Its going to be very interesting when intel releases that non extreme edition 6 core part that is for sure.

if this price holds it wont be very interesting IMO. yes itll preform better (980x) but still costs 4 times as much

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/18800

 

[Makaveli]

if this price holds it wont be very interesting IMO. yes itll preform better (980x) but still costs 4 times as much

http://techreport.com/discussions.x/18800

I've seen this thread before we are going to have to wait its release for final pricing.

I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a price drop across the whole i7 line before this part is released and with the x6 core being competitive on the encoding and rendering appz the i7 970 might even see its price go down aswell but for now we all wait.

I'm also curious if AMD will released faster X6 models cause based on overclocking results it does have more frequency headroom.

 

[nyker96]

the best part of x6 is that it has ddr2 compatibility and my aging am2+ board maker just released a bios update for it. talk about long live socket am2+!? take that 775!

 

[formulav8]

i think the reason ram prices fell to begin with was mostly qimonda basically dumping everything while they flailed and died anyway and everyon ehaving to match that price.

No, ram prices went down begin with because nearly every big memory company got Sued for price fixing. Ram prices dropped like a rock when they got caught and had to pay a huge fine.

The government needs to look into them price fixing again just to scare them alittle to artificially lower prices...


Jason