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Kadarin

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Out of curiosity, when did they come up with E as a grade? Like JTsyo, I grew up with A,B,C,D, and F. Is this some sort of cheesy new-age "self-esteem" thing where we're afraid to tell our kids that they failed at something?

And yeah, the OP deserves an apology from the instructor. Also, it sounds like the kid was too passive about the whole thing. He should have a better clue as to how his grades are generated and what goes into them.

Imagine the parent's reaction if the kid had noticed the undeserved E on the progress report, then had taken the initiative to go to the instructor and have it fixed prior to coming home for the day. Too much to expect, I guess...
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: jamesbond007
Hmm...female teacher for a health class...I don't think I have to say it because everyone on this forum should know where this will go. :D
I don't. Please explain.

We're going to need crude but effective diagrams here. Ahhh, MS Paint, how I love thee! :heart:
 

Vette73

Lifer
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Blame is on both. The teacher and You. For punishment i would double check everything. That and you said you can check online so its not as hard as it use to be.

So have YOU apologized?
 

Legendary

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It wasn't even a report card, and you had access to the grades directly?

Let it go man, you jumped the gun a bit.
 

jamesbond007

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Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: jamesbond007
Hmm...female teacher for a health class...I don't think I have to say it because everyone on this forum should know where this will go. :D
I don't. Please explain.

You fail as a lifer. Please hand in your card on the way out.
 

CycloWizard

Lifer
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Originally posted by: silverpig
Why you waited 2 weeks to check is beyond me... As soon as I saw that "E" I would have gone online to figure out what the problem was.
As soon as I saw an "E," I would have gone online to figure out what kind of grade "E" was.
 

randay

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why didnt you check in with the teacher before punishing your kid so severely when things just didnt add up? its your fault and you shouldnt be blaming the teacher. did you even explain that the kid was punished because you trusted the teacher to not make such a mistake? why would the teacher even think to apologize without knowing that? maybe she assumed that it wasnt a big deal, same way you assumed that your child was at fault for the bad grade.
 

mcvickj

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IMO the teacher doesn't owe anyone an apology. Mistakes will happen. You mention your son is an excellent student but you let a failing grade slide for 2 weeks before checking. I would have been on the phone with the teacher the same / following day asking about the grade before doling out any type of punishment.
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Blame is on both. The teacher and You. For punishment i would double check everything. That and you said you can check online so its not as hard as it use to be.

So have YOU apologized?

see cliff point number 5.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Blame is on both. The teacher and You. For punishment i would double check everything. That and you said you can check online so its not as hard as it use to be.

So have YOU apologized?

see cliff point number 5.

Sorry i don;t have ADD, I read the full part. :p
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: jamesbond007
Hmm...female teacher for a health class...I don't think I have to say it because everyone on this forum should know where this will go. :D

EDIT: Oh, and seriously, why didn't you seek the online grade book sooner or ask the teacher about it right away instead of letting it slide so long? Personally, I would have asked for my son's story first and then call the teacher or school about it. Right away. ESPECIALLY if my son is normally in the A and B range...

Are we talking about this?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090305/
 
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Originally posted by: mcvickj
IMO the teacher doesn't owe anyone an apology. Mistakes will happen. You mention your son is an excellent student but you let a failing grade slide for 2 weeks before checking. I would have been on the phone with the teacher the same / following day asking about the grade before doling out any type of punishment.

QFT

If you can email your son's teachers that easliy after you caught the mistake, you should have sent her a quick email when you got the report card asking for a break down of the E.

IMO you dropped the ball more then she did. You already apologized for it, so you should just move on.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: dabuddha
Teacher needs to apologize. It's an honest mistake and I don't see any reason why she shouldn't.

yeap she needs to aplologize. it was a mistake but you still aplogize for them.



 

Wheezer

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Nov 2, 1999
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So you feel about about you grounding your son for 2 weeks and you want to put the blame solely on the teacher for this? get over it.

#1 You grounded him, not the teacher, so your share of the blame for this is at least 80% don't shove more onto here than she deserves....own it and move on.

#2 give him a get out of jail free card...next time he screws something up, let it go (granted he doesn't do anything too stupid like shave the cat or something)

#3 pics of said teacher?
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: tyler811
Originally posted by: sdifox
You can explain the situation and ask her if she would apologise to your kid? I don't see why she would not. But ask, not demand.

Well as an adult I would figure that she should do it without asking. All the teachers know my wife and I as we attend every parent/teacher conference. They know we would not tolerate such a grade

You are assuming they know what happened to your kid via your hands. It is better to explain than assume.
 

tyler811

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: tyler811
I hit the roof but was calm when discussing this with him.

Which was it? I'm guessing the former, since your punishment seems, at least to me, to have been a little draconian.

I think part of the reason you're still mad is that YOU effed-up. Sure, she did, too, but angrily confronting her (and let's face it, your actions expose point to the high possibility of edging over into anger when you talk to her) can only have negative consequences.

Let it go. Don't even talk to her at all. You know, or should know, that you won't be able to truly, fully restrain yourself, don't you

What you need to do is to make it up to your son. Go do that and let the rest go, please.


HIt the roof as in mad but never in talking to him or my wife. We do not raise our voices to each other or to other people as it shows a lack of respect. Discussions are held in an adult manner without yelling and profanity.

Bitch slap is what I would like to do. Verbal or physical confrontation I will not. To get respect you treat with respect. It would be a simply gentle nudge in the direction in conversation. But I feel I should not even have to mention it. An adult would do the right thing and apologize without someone prodding them.

 

jamesbond007

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Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: jamesbond007
Hmm...female teacher for a health class...I don't think I have to say it because everyone on this forum should know where this will go. :D

EDIT: Oh, and seriously, why didn't you seek the online grade book sooner or ask the teacher about it right away instead of letting it slide so long? Personally, I would have asked for my son's story first and then call the teacher or school about it. Right away. ESPECIALLY if my son is normally in the A and B range...

Are we talking about this?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090305/

I'm at work or I'd click the link with a bit more confidence...I know it's just IMDB, but I don't really wanna go there. ;) However, yes, I was thinking of a movie I saw as a kid, probably 15 years ago or more.
 

BassBomb

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I had a teacher that would forget to input grades pretty often... changing my average from 70 to 85
 

tyler811

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Originally posted by: apac
Maybe use this as an exercise in trust with your son? Next time let him try to figure out what happened before losing your cool and issuing punishment.

edit: although you should tell him that it's his responsibility to look into this sort of thing. In 3 weeks he never once talked to the teacher about it?

How would he know? He took the test and turned it in.
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Blame is on both. The teacher and You. For punishment i would double check everything. That and you said you can check online so its not as hard as it use to be.

So have YOU apologized?

see cliff point number 5.

Sorry i don;t have ADD, I read the full part. :p

Then why are you asking if op has apologised?

Well okay I let it it go but parent/teacher conferences are today. I feel the teacher needs to apologize to him for mistake that cost him two weeks activitys. I have already told him I sorry because I could have checked online but I did not. I personally feel like shit about
this.
 

jorken

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Oct 9, 1999
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Yeah she probably should have apologized in her reply, no I don't think you should ride on in there and call her out during a parent/teacher conference and demand an apology. Shit happens, people make mistakes. Unfortunate your kid had to take the consequences but that's life and it won't be the first or last time he gets the shit end of the stick for no good reason.
 

tyler811

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Blame is on both. The teacher and You. For punishment i would double check everything. That and you said you can check online so its not as hard as it use to be.

So have YOU apologized?

Yes Marlin it is the cliffs.
 

TecHNooB

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You don't have to kick her ass to have her make an apology. Just explain what you did and get her to say something nice to your son? Oh, and you owe your son something nice, haha~
 

DrawninwarD

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You grounded him for TWO weeks for failing Health? And that's some epic strict grounding man.

- Your son should have gone to see his teacher right after getting the report. I'd definitely inquire about randomly failing a class.
- You should ease up a bit dawg. Doesn't seem like your kid is a bad kid at all, you should be a little more forgiving.
- Teacher should be more careful, but shit happens. A few of my teachers in HS would enter incorrect grades.

Edit: I voted yes before fully reading the post. But that's because I thought that he was suspended or something by the school. I think I'd vote no now.
 

Perknose

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6. I feel the teacher needs to also because it is the right thing to do.

Sometimes, even often, as adults we achieve the greatest good by not enforcing a "right", no matter how right it is!

Of such things are diplomacy and adulthood and seeing and understanding the "big picture" defined and achieved. It's called "being the bigger man", and it has its own surprising and effective utility in improving your life, as you live it in the day-to-day.

This view I'm espousing is not an absolute, just something to consider.