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[So]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: soulcougher73
What the hell is an E grade? I must be really old. We only had A, B, C, D, and F way back in 91 when i graduated HS.

many schools have replaced F's with E's... makes sense if you think about it.

Not really. F is for fail, it's supposed to be different from A-D to have additional impact. You need to feel bad when you FAIL at something.

 

[speg]

That is some crazy ass punishment for an 'E' in health. Grades don't mean much, and I don't think you should be grounding kids over their grades. You need to make this up to him somehow, 'sorry' is not enough.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: soulcougher73
What the hell is an E grade? I must be really old. We only had A, B, C, D, and F way back in 91 when i graduated HS.

many schools have replaced F's with E's... makes sense if you think about it.

Not really. F is for fail, it's supposed to be different from A-D to have additional impact. You need to feel bad when you FAIL at something.

if F stands for "fail" what do A-D stand for?

it's just an arbitrary measuring system... having the letters actually go in order makes sense to me.

C was actually "fail" in my school (under 75%)

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: tyler811
Three weeks ago my son brought home his mid term progress report. All A's and B's but an E in Health. He has never got an E and seemed surprised to see it there. The lowest grade he has ever gotten is a B-.

I hit the roof but was calm when discussing this with him. After some discussion he said that were a couple of homework items he did not turn in. I was thinking that they must have been huge projects to account for an E. So we grounded him to the house with no PC, no cartoons, no phone calls, no friends and he could not go to his friends overnight B-Day party. Plus the next weekend he missed a school event at the high school swimming pool with games, pizza, friends and movies. Along with the other things I mentioned.

Last week I remembered we can check his grades and assignments online. I checked his Health grades and he was only missing 2 homework assignments for a total of 12 points. What he was missing was a test for 100 points. Well I knew he was in school that day and he remembered the test. So I emailed the teacher and inquired about the test grade. Her reply was simply "I forgot to put it in" There was "No sorry" or "Ooops my bad" no freakin nothing. When she entered the grade it was a score of 100 points and brought his grade up to a B+. So I set up an appointment to see her because I was going to nail her ass to the wall. But the wife said let it slide because she might take it out on the kid.

Well okay I let it it go but parent/teacher conferences are today. I feel the teacher needs to apologize to him for mistake that cost him two weeks activitys. I have already told him I sorry because I could have checked online but I did not. I personally feel like shit about
this.

Cliffs:
1. Child get mid-term report with an E in Health.
2. Child is grounded with all priviledges taken away.
3. Grade was not fault of child as teacher "forgot" to enter a test score which the child scored perfect on.
4. Grade is now a B+.
5. I apologized to my child,
6. I feel the teacher needs to also because it is the right thing to do.


EDIT

Wow PT Barnum was right. Raised my post also

So you grounded your son and you want to blame someone else? It was your action so take responsibility for it.

 

[Fayd]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: soulcougher73
What the hell is an E grade? I must be really old. We only had A, B, C, D, and F way back in 91 when i graduated HS.

many schools have replaced F's with E's... makes sense if you think about it.

Not really. F is for fail, it's supposed to be different from A-D to have additional impact. You need to feel bad when you FAIL at something.

if F stands for "fail" what do A-D stand for?

it's just an arbitrary measuring system... having the letters actually go in order makes sense to me.

C was actually "fail" in my school (under 75%)

D was pass in my school. it depended on the class, but was sometimes above 65%, sometimes above 50%. (hard math classes like AP stats were like this IIRC)

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Fayd

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: soulcougher73
What the hell is an E grade? I must be really old. We only had A, B, C, D, and F way back in 91 when i graduated HS.

many schools have replaced F's with E's... makes sense if you think about it.

Not really. F is for fail, it's supposed to be different from A-D to have additional impact. You need to feel bad when you FAIL at something.

if F stands for "fail" what do A-D stand for?

it's just an arbitrary measuring system... having the letters actually go in order makes sense to me.

C was actually "fail" in my school (under 75%)

D was pass in my school. it depended on the class, but was sometimes above 65%, sometimes above 50%. (hard math classes like AP stats were like this IIRC)

In my experience D has almost always been 60%-69.94%

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: tyler811

Originally posted by: DrawninwarD
You grounded him for TWO weeks for failing Health? And that's some epic strict grounding man.

- Your son should have gone to see his teacher right after getting the report. I'd definitely inquire about randomly failing a class.
- You should ease up a bit dawg. Doesn't seem like your kid is a bad kid at all, you should be a little more forgiving.
- Teacher should be more careful, but shit happens. A few of my teachers in HS would enter incorrect grades.

Edit: I voted yes before fully reading the post. But that's because I thought that he was suspended or something by the school. I think I'd vote no now.

My son is the best just yesterday I was raking the yard and HE came outside and asked me if I wanted help. I have never missed a soccer game, band concert or swim lesson. A day never goes by that I do not hug him and tell him I love him at least twice a day. Even though he is in 7th grade I still wait with him for the bus. I asked him once if he wanted me stop because I thought it would be "uncool" in front of his friends. He was reply was no why I like you waiting me.

Now while he was grounded my wife and were there all time. Each night we would play cards or a board game just to reinforce the idea that even he was grounded it does not mean we do not love him or he dissappointed us

You pretty much define the term helicopter parent.

oh, and your last statement just floors me. I would see that as cruel an unusual punishment - spending EVEN MORE time with my controlling and obsessively over involved parents.

Does your son handle any of his problems himself or do you take care of all of them. I can just see you reading up on masturbation to give him some pointers.

 

[Mo0o]

how old is your son

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: So
What the hell is an "E"? Is 50-60% a passing grade now or something?

I know in school we were on basically a 6 point scale.

94-100 A
88-94 B
etc..

So I was surprised at the leeway of the 10 pt scale in college.

Some of these schools sound like they are just herding them through and devaluing the "A" as a whole.

 

[mugs]

1. WTF is an E?
2. Your kid should have realized something was wrong. How could he not know what ballpark his grade was in?
3. Punishing him was justified anyway, because he skipped two homework assignments. At every school I've gone to, you couldn't pass the class without doing all of the required work. Any homework that got a grade had to be completed, or you'd get an "Incomplete" for the class.

Asking the teacher to apologize is warranted. Yelling at her is not. She made a mistake, it's not the end of the world.

 

[jagec]

Teacher should apologize. Your wife is wrong, your kid will not face repercussions. Parents have ALL the power in public school. Since the teacher will already know that you are an active parent, she will also know that her hide will be nailed to the wall if she tries to retaliate against your son...especially if all you're asking is for a simple apology for a mistake that she knows she committed.

 

[octopus41092]

You should have asked before going straight to grounding him. But... I still think that the teacher should apologize just because she screwed up.

 

[artikk]

wow that kid will have issues.

 

[Mr. Lennon]

As said by everyone else, sorry is not enough. Set a day aside to do anything HE wants to do....or a get out of jail free card if he screws up in the future. You fucked up big time on this one.

 

[Brainonska511]

You should ask her nicely to apologize for the mistake. But you should also make it up to your son, because you were kind of a douche parent by punishing first and not making sure there was some other reason behind the bad grade.

 

[secretanchitman]

you assumed instead of asking him directly. big mistake on your part. treat your kid to something nice, but at the very least, make SURE he knows your sorry.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: loki8481
if F stands for "fail" what do A-D stand for?

D = Duh, you really could do better.

C = Cee? I told you that you could do better.

B = Better, bitch, you're doing even better.

A = Ace, you A-Otay, numbah one11!

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: loki8481
if F stands for "fail" what do A-D stand for?

D = Duh, you really could do better.

C = Cee? I told you that you could do better.

B = Better, bitch, you're doing even better.

A = Ace, you A-Otay, numbah one11!

A - Acceptable
B - Bit of a disappointment
C - Care to explain yourself?
D - Dumbass!

 

[pontifex]

lol, wtf is an E?

also, oyu want the teacher to apologize for what? you should have looked at his grades online before you flipped out.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: So
What the hell is an "E"? Is 50-60% a passing grade now or something?

I know in school we were on basically a 6 point scale.

94-100 A
88-94 B
etc..

So I was surprised at the leeway of the 10 pt scale in college.

Some of these schools sound like they are just herding them through and devaluing the "A" as a whole.

lol wut?

i graduated HS in 87 and the 10pt scale was used. an A isnt that hard to get, and to a 91% student, that A means a lot. it doesnt get devalued because he didnt make a 94% A

 

[Fayd]

well i would like to point out that i'm glad the OP actually apologized to his kid.

if my father were in the same situation, he would have continued yelling at me about not checking my grades, teachers always fuck you over, and it's my fault i'm in this situation to begin with.

(i hate people who feel the need to blame everything on someone.)

 

[Mr. Lennon]

Another thing I don't get is why some parents "hit the roof" when their child brings home a bad grade. There is no need for yelling (which I'm sure happened) and grounding. If this is your reaction to all of your child's negative behavior, then he will be more inclined to keep things from you. On the other hand, if you deal with these issues rationally and try to work with your child to rectify them, then your child will have no trouble approaching you when he is in trouble.

 

[Mr. Lennon]

Originally posted by: Fayd
well i would like to point out that i'm glad the OP actually apologized to his kid.

if my father were in the same situation, he would have continued yelling at me about not checking my grades, teachers always fuck you over, and it's my fault i'm in this situation to begin with.

(i hate people who feel the need to blame everything on someone.)

Yeah, reminds me of the time when my 7th grade math teacher sent home a progress report stating that I had an F, when I really had a B.

My dad (spitting image of the OP) jumped to conclusions and "hit the roof" over it. The big difference between me and the OP's son is that I actually went to the teacher and demanded that she resolve the issue by calling my father. I don't know why the OP's son just took the punishment without bothering to even defend himself...

 

[amicold]

Originally posted by: GasX
I think the one and only apology here is Parent to child. You raised a son without either the spine or communications skills to defend himself against unfair treatment.

Normally I'd say you're trolling but I have to agree. Encouragement is a good thing but being overbearing is not.

Edit: After reading more, and the "raking in the yard" post, you are going to raise him to be unable to handle himself in the real world. This is an example, he did not even begin to think that YOU were wrong. Your high level of affection is good, but you seem to have read too many Dr. Lipschitz books.

 

[txrandom]

You should get in E in parenting. Ah hell, you deserve an F.