Prove it. Prove any of these registrations turned into votes.Ya, it's not like anyone ever tried to vote under an illegal registration.
Prove it. Prove any of these registrations turned into votes.Ya, it's not like anyone ever tried to vote under an illegal registration.
I'm almost getting tired of these voter id threads. Every single last person on ATPN, every single GOP lawmaker passing these laws, every single politician and thinking adult in this nation knows that voter fraud is so rare as to virtually not exist. And every single person who's heard of these laws knows they're not about preventing fraud but about voter suppression. The problem is no matter how much everyone KNOWS with a zero percent uncertainty that this is about voter suppression, the people who support the suppression won't admit it because then they'd be admitting they're attempting to suppress voters!
That's the problem in the end. No matter how obvious and 100% true it is, the people doing the dispicable act can't admit to it.
Prove it. Prove any of these registrations turned into votes.
Getting paid. Read your own story. Employees had a quota of 20 cards a day.
If that is what you really believe you are one or maybe both of the following: Not paying attention and/or a Democrat.
OMG, please.
Then shut up. If you can not support your charges just admit you're a liar and get lost.
Oh ya, I made those stories up.
You posted stories about illegal voter registration.
Next the Republicans will pass a law against time travel to keep voters from going back in time to vote illegally.
Right, but I am a liar because of it.
Do you all want links or do you want to Google it for yourselves?
You could just go back in time to kill the mother of the candidate you don't like before they were born. Then if that doesn't work, travel back to when they were in middle school and kill them then. Then if that doesn't work, travel back in time to when they're a young adult and kill all their friends so they have no support system to run a campaign.
We need a law against this exact scenario.
No one called you a liar, and what do I need links for? I 100% believe what you asserted in terms of registration fraud. All that was pointed out was the proving that people were registered illegally does not prove people voted illegally, or that picture ID would have stopped the votes where no picture ID wouldn't.
Edit: sorry, someone did call you a liar. But it was not that your stories were a lie, but your usage of those stories as proof of something else that wasn't contained in the stories.
Ya, how asinine of me to think an organization that was hell bent on getting as many illegal voter registrations as it could would do anything under-handed with them.
You're telling me people have 6 months to get an ID and cannot?!?!? I simply refuse to believe that, it is beyond the realm of any reasonable sane belief.
Ya, how asinine of me to think an organization that was hell bent on getting as many illegal voter registrations as it could would do anything under-handed with them.
Isn't that funny. However if government were to offer "Free Money" then all you betcha these people would find a way to head down into town and collect. Hell one has to wonder how these people even signed up for the social services they are using.
Ya, how asinine of me to think an organization that was hell bent on getting as many illegal voter registrations as it could would do anything under-handed with them.
Thinking something and proving something are very different things. And it doesn't serve your argument well when you start using phrases like 'hell bent on getting as many illegal voter registrations as it could'.
Some light reading for you. Real world cases of situations where getting a Photo ID is delayed or incredibly difficult and discourages voters.Amazing, isn't it?
Some light reading for you. Real world cases of situations where getting a Photo ID is delayed or incredibly difficult and discourages voters.
http://www.lawyerscommittee.org/page?id=0046
From the beginning of your own link:
""Given human nature, people tend not to address things until the last minute sometimes, ..."
People have 4 years to get an ID, know the election is coming up, and still don't have it ready? My comment to them when whining about being able to not vote would be: Obviously you didn't think it important enough, so the fault is yours. Next time, take more important the thing you're now whining about instead of being a lazy F'r.
Basically from your link I get this:
1.) People are lazy and/or uninformed about the new policy, so they don't have time to get an ID. The solution to this is twofold: Tell the lazy people, Too F'ing bad, you're too lazy to get an ID, you've decided yourself you don't need to vote. For the uninformed, need a better information campaign to get the word out. Send notices to registered drivers, social security, etc. That would solve #1.
2.) People who cannot get an ID because of some F up with their birth certificate, or lack thereof. Roll out National ID to everyone, problem solved by going through that process. In the meantime, appoint county election officials the power to grant ID's to older (say, over 50) individuals who didn't grow up in times of better (or even kept) record keeping.
The few who don't fit into the above scenarios are such a statistal low, that they effectively won't matter (until National ID goes through, then they'll be covered also).
What's the problem again with ID?