Penn State protects child rapist that was former famous D-Coordinator

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Gigantopithecus

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no, you kick them out, all sports are gone. Volleyball, Baseball, Basketball, Track, Tennis ETC.

Not all of a school's sports are required to be in the same athletic conference. Expelling PSU football from the Big Ten wouldn't affect the Big Ten membership of its other sports programs.

maybe to kneejerkers and the over sensitive. if you cant separate big ten football from something that happened at penn state, you might be the one with the problem.

I don't want the football programs of my almae matres to be associated with PSU football because it is rotten. PSU football was built by a man who thought image was more important than turning in a child rapist, and I think that is monstrous. It really is as simple as that.
 

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Punishing a fan, an current student, a local business owner, or other innocents for the actions taken by Penn State is abhorrent. Isnt the economy bad enough? What about, hypothetically, the local pizza shop owner who makes a living selling to game crowds? Do you give a shit about those people?

I agree that JoePa, Sandusky, and many others in the administration were slime and deserve the worst possible punishment. I also understand why people feel the program should be nuked. But you're not thinking about those its hurting, and your insinuation that because another poster here is a fan that somehow he supported the rape of children is digusting.

You're from Pittsburgh - the Steelers culture here is even worse then the PSU culture. Do you blame everyone in our City because Ben is a rapist?? It pisses me off that so many around here still support him even KNOWING what he did, so look around a bit before you hurl what you're hurling.

I don't support anything Ben has done but he was never convicted and if he is a rapist I would of hoped they found enough evidence to put him away. As far as I know the Steelers are not covering up anything and if they are then they doing a good job. If the Steelers did something like what Penn State did I would want ban on them too. The Rooney's seem to have a good reputation as far as keeping the team clean. I can't see the Steeler's being in the same situation as Penn State as long as the Rooney's own the team but you never know seeing how JoePa was looked at like a god.
 

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I don't want the football programs of my almae matres to be associated with PSU football because it is rotten. PSU football was built by a man who thought image was more important than turning in a child rapist, and I think that is monstrous. It really is as simple as that.



that's insane. what about the nearly 100 years BEFORE jopa? a current stain does not erase the nearly 100 years before.
 

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lxskllr

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I haven't read all the posts, but where does the $60,000,000 go? Does it just prop up a bureaucracy, or does it go to something justified, and useful?
 

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I haven't read all the posts, but where does the $60,000,000 go? Does it just prop up a bureaucracy, or does it go to something justified, and useful?

It must be “paid into an endowment for external programs preventing child sexual abuse or assisting victims and may not be used to fund such programs at the university.”
 

Gigantopithecus

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that's insane. what about the nearly 100 years BEFORE jopa? a current stain does not erase the nearly 100 years before.

There is no "100 years before Joe Paterno."

I haven't read all the posts, but where does the $60,000,000 go? Does it just prop up a bureaucracy, or does it go to something justified, and useful?

The money is going to non-PSU charities that work with victims of child sex abuse. It's not going to the NCAA.
 

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Mizzou is a better choice than Nebraska assuming that Neb isn't AAU. More TV sets = more money, football prowess be damned.

Kind of off topic, but I thought Nebraska had to work towards AAU membership as a condition of joining the conference?
 

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Mizzou is a better choice than Nebraska assuming that Neb isn't AAU. More TV sets = more money, football prowess be damned.

no one in mizzouri gives a rat's ass about mizzou football. that's why the B1G took nebraska rather than mizzou despite that the governor of missouri was lifting up his skirt and waving his parts in the air at the B1G.
 

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no one in mizzouri gives a rat's ass about mizzou football. that's why the B1G took nebraska rather than mizzou despite that the governor of missouri was lifting up his skirt and waving his parts in the air at the B1G.

Um, the St. Louis market is huge. People would tune in to watch OSU/Mich play Mizzou, in the least. It'd be bigger coup ($$ wise) due to TV sets than Nebraska's piddly shit tv set numbers. Same goes for Rutgers (NYC/NJ TV sets).
 

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Um, the St. Louis market is huge. People would tune in to watch OSU/Mich play Mizzou, in the least. It'd be bigger coup ($$ wise) due to TV sets than Nebraska's piddly shit tv set numbers. Same goes for Rutgers (NYC/NJ TV sets).

again, if it were like you said, B1G would have taken missouri. it didn't.
 

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Nothing is worse than a death penalty. No football for x number of years is the harshest penalty.
 

zinfamous

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that's insane. what about the nearly 100 years BEFORE jopa? a current stain does not erase the nearly 100 years before.

what was that like? I imagine it looks like some sort of black hole--

:hmm:
Hey! maybe that's where the Higgs Boson has been hiding all this time!
 

waggy

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point being, there is no "PSU football" before Paterno.

err. yeah there was. you want a list of years and how well they did? neat fact jopa didn't even have the best record. though the most wins (of course being around 45 years..)..
 

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I think people want the "death penalty" because it has such a stupid sensationalized name that implies "awww yea, now THIS is justice!"; anyone with even a mildly functional brain can see that the program is going to be in shambles for years to come already. Disallowing football entirely is just going to have a ton of negative economic repercussions that nobody in their right mind would want to incur nor be responsible for.
 
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Vacating wins? Seems kind of silly to me, as most NCAA penalties are. At least in other cases you vacate wins because of some sort of competitive advantage. Unless Sandusky raping innocent victims did help JoePa win games for the last 15 years.
 

SP33Demon

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again, if it were like you said, B1G would have taken missouri. it didn't.

So you agree that TV set/$$$ wise, Mizzou was the better choice? Nebraska has a lot of buddies in the B10 which was how they got in. Their non-TV revenue is good too, as long as they keep winning and recruiting. Much easier to rely on TV contract money though b/c it's there if you win or lose. And Mizzou blows Nebraska out of the water academically (more in line with B10 tradition).

Back on topic, two PSU recruits have already jumped ship. I'm hoping Pitt/WVU/RU snatches up the talent.