Penn State protects child rapist that was former famous D-Coordinator

[waggy]

PSU's football stadium is the second-largest in the country with a capacity of ~107,000 - let's see how many years it takes to start seeing some empty seats there. I bet by 2015-2016 attendance will be off ~20%.

i bet its higher then that.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

The Big Ten just released its statement; the only thing I can see in it is that PSU is ineligible for the Big Ten title game for four years (this is not a postseason bowl game), and will not receive the $13M it would've made from Big Ten bowl revenues over the next four years. That $13M will go to charities in Big Ten communities that help child abuse victims.

I am disappointed that PSU football was not expelled from the Big Ten.

 

[waggy]

The Big Ten just released its statement; the only thing I can see in it is that PSU is ineligible for the Big Ten title game for four years (this is not a postseason bowl game), and will not receive the $13M it would've made from Big Ten bowl revenues over the next four years. That $13M will go to charities in Big Ten communities that help child abuse victims.

I am disappointed that PSU football was not expelled from the Big Ten.

to expel them would be silly. In 5 years this will be forgotten. PSU is a well known school and usually a good football one. TO expel them would hurt the big 10.

I am not surprised at any of the punishment. it seems fair.

PSU football is dead for the next 4 years. then it will take a few to build it back up.

 

[kranky]

PSU's football stadium is the second-largest in the country with a capacity of ~107,000 - let's see how many years it takes to start seeing some empty seats there. I bet by 2015-2016 attendance will be off ~20%.

I think the fans will still fill the place, if for no other reason than to show they are obsessively devoted to PSU. Remember there are 40,000+ students at the main campus.

 

[ElFenix]

PSU isn't going to be down near as long as SMU. remember, SMU was never really up before they started outbidding a&m in the late 70s and early 80s. they'd won a bare handful of SWC titles in 80 years. but biggest of all is that the alumni turned on the football program there. i don't see that happening at PSU. and the SWC breaking up while SMU was out in the woods certainly didn't help.

good point made on the radio this morning: 4 year bowl ban doesn't mean anything because they won't be sniffing a bowl for 5 or 6 years. should be next 4 otherwise bowl eligible years, they don't go. could take 10 years for that to wear off.

 

[slsmnaz]

I think the fans will still fill the place, if for no other reason than to show they are obsessively devoted to PSU. Remember there are 40,000+ students at the main campus.

lose a few and they'll be pushing 80k by October. Will be even worse in the years following

 

[Capt Caveman]

The Big Ten just released its statement; the only thing I can see in it is that PSU is ineligible for the Big Ten title game for four years (this is not a postseason bowl game), and will not receive the $13M it would've made from Big Ten bowl revenues over the next four years. That $13M will go to charities in Big Ten communities that help child abuse victims.

I am disappointed that PSU football was not expelled from the Big Ten.

Less than slap of a wrist, I agree they should have been expelled from the conference.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

PSU's football stadium is the second-largest in the country with a capacity of ~107,000 - let's see how many years it takes to start seeing some empty seats there. I bet by 2015-2016 attendance will be off ~20%.

I think we'll see the hit by late next season. Early season the place will be standing-room only as the brain-dead idiots who still worship that program will rally around it to show their unconditional love. By mid-season after watching the team get its ass kicked repeatedly fans will start to trickle out and by later in the year when the message hits home that "Damn, we have six to eight more years of this shit" it will become a lot worse.

 

[Jeffg010]

I stand by thinking you are a idiot too. not just because you are linking the kid who buys a shirt to child molestation. but thinking you can "nuke" the culture.

Nuke the football program. great..ok. you think the "fans" are just going away? no they will find something else to latch on to. Also if you think the "culture" is just Penn state you are insane.

this was the actions of a 4 idiotic people (5 if you count the janitor. really he should have went to the cops too. the job ain't worth it).

"not just because you are linking the kid who buys a shirt to child molestation" where did I say that?

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Less than slap of a wrist, I agree they should have been expelled from the conference.

Logistically and financially too damaging to the conference at this point. Impossible to get another team in to replace PedoState and too much money is tied up in games with other conference members vs PSU. Kicking them out of the Big 10 was NEVER even on the table.

 

[Deeko]

"not just because you are linking the kid who buys a shirt to child molestation" where did I say that?

Are you even paying attention to what you're saying?

Everyone who supported PSU football had a hand in it.

So you're saying that since when I was a 13 year old kid I bought a Penn State football jacket - I am responsible for the actions of Jerry Sandusky? Grow up.

I stand by what I posted. Even though you did not directly have anything to do with the rapes the culture that is PSU Football is still there. The culture is what enabled it.

 

[Capt Caveman]

I think the fans will still fill the place, if for no other reason than to show they are obsessively devoted to PSU. Remember there are 40,000+ students at the main campus.

I agree. The culture and devotion to PSU Football will not change with the penalties today. They've had plenty of losing seasons in the past.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Logistically and financially too damaging to the conference at this point. Impossible to get another team in to replace PedoState and too much money is tied up in games with other conference members vs PSU. Kicking them out of the Big 10 was NEVER even on the table.

You can still have the games this season but PSU would not be part of the conference, independent like they were before.

Again, Football > *

 

[Possessed Freak]

"not just because you are linking the kid who buys a shirt to child molestation" where did I say that?

Speaking of standing by what I said:

everyone who supported PSU football had a hand in it.

fuck you.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Logistically and financially too damaging to the conference at this point. Impossible to get another team in to replace PedoState and too much money is tied up in games with other conference members vs PSU. Kicking them out of the Big 10 was NEVER even on the table.

Some things are more important than money, but apparently institutional cover of pedophilia is less damaging to the Big Ten than whatever loss of revenue entailed by expelling said sport.

 

[Jeffg010]

Are you even paying attention to what you're saying?

"Everyone who supported PSU football had a hand in it."

Had a hand in the culture of what PSU football is not the rapes. There is a difference. Like I said nuking the program for 5 year would help clean it up.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Some things are more important than money, but apparently institutional cover of pedophilia is less damaging to the Big Ten than whatever loss of revenue entailed by expelling said sport.

Kicking out PedoState damages the other teams, not PedoState.

 

[waggy]

I agree. The culture and devotion to PSU Football will not change with the penalties today. They've had plenty of losing seasons in the past.

it's not just PSU. i live near NIU when the football team plays its insane. Its something that happens to every college. the kids (well a good portion of them) get fanatical when it comes to the schools football team.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Kicking out PedoState damages the other teams, not PedoState.

How?

 

[Capt Caveman]

it's not just PSU. i live near NIU when the football team plays its insane. Its something that happens to every college. the kids (well a good portion of them) get fanatical when it comes to the schools football team.

That's why I believe the football team should have been eliminated.

 

[waggy]

That's why I believe the football team should have been eliminated.

and what would it have solved? besides fucking over hundreds of students, faculty, etc?

it wouldn't solve anything. the "culture" would have moved onto basketball, cricket whatever. idiotic students are idiotic. shrug

 

[SP33Demon]

http://articles.marketwatch.com/2011-11-11/news/30833178_1_downgrade-penn-state-aa1

Yeah I also found:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...imit-liability-from-scandal-moody-s-says.html

Penn State’s debt is graded Aa1, the second-highest Moody’s rating, because of “very strong student demand and other credit strengths linked to its status as Pennsylvania’s flagship and land-grant university,” the company said in its Nov. 11 report. The school has about $1 billion of rated debt outstanding.

So they do have 1 bil in debt. Not a huge deal but it could be after the Civil suits are done with them.

 

[Jeffg010]

and what would it have solved? besides fucking over hundreds of students, faculty, etc?

it wouldn't solve anything. the "culture" would have moved onto basketball, cricket whatever. idiotic students are idiotic. shrug

So we should just do nothing and let the culture breath? Basketball is not even close to what football is. Who even cares about PSU basketball. lol

 

[waggy]

So we should just do nothing and let the culture breath? Basketball is not even close to what football is. Who even cares about PSU basketball. lol

ok since its you and you can't remember what you wrote 10 minutes before. I will take it slow for you.

IF you nuke the football program what do you think those students/fans etc are going to do? just stop being fanatical about the school? Or do you think those people are going to find something else to latch on to?

they did something about the culture. about the only thing they could really do. you can't kill, destroy or really change a culture since its not really a thing.

 

[GrumpyMan]

NCAA=Weak Sauce.