Penn State protects child rapist that was former famous D-Coordinator

[waggy]

this is a big win for grambling state and eddie robinson.

that's pretty interesting.

 

[Baked]

The vacating of records means nothing. The NCAA should've shut down their entire athletic program and fuck penn st over for good.

 

[surfsatwerk]

The vacating of records means nothing. The NCAA should've shut down their entire athletic program and fuck penn st over for good.

I agree with half of what you said. Picking on a dead guy does not impress me. The NCAA has done nothing to impress me with these punishments.

 

[Jeffg010]

IMHO the NCCA is a bunch of pussies. They needed to nuke the program for 5 years. To say that covering up rape is only worth 60 million is a joke. The only thing they got right is nuking the wins for JoePa lol

 

[Wyndru]

I've got mixed feelings about this. For one thing, almost everyone associated with the whole coverup has already "left" so it's not really affecting them. This is really hurting the students instead. For at least 1 generation if not 2, people will always remember Penn State as that school that supports pedos. Imagine if you're in your junior or senior year and you don't give a shit about football or know anything about the football program and now this shit will be hanging over your head.

What really needs to be done is they need to take everyone involved with the coverup/pedo shit and hang them high. And the whiny bitches that support Paterno need to be slapped in the face (or falcon punched, I'm good with either).

This. I'm really surprised it got to this point. It's one thing to punish those responsible, but now they are basically going after the school monetarily and ruining the reputation of Penn State in general.

 

[Sinsear]

Fuck penn state

I hope the civil suits eclipse the fine tenfold

 

[Capt Caveman]

This. I'm really surprised it got to this point. It's one thing to punish those responsible, but now they are basically going after the school monetarily and ruining the reputation of Penn State in general.

And now every other NCAA school is making sure that they don't have anything illegal going on and if they do, making sure they report it asap.

Punishment not harsh enough.

 

[CLite]

This. I'm really surprised it got to this point. It's one thing to punish those responsible, but now they are basically going after the school monetarily and ruining the reputation of Penn State in general.

Did you really just suggest that the NCAA penalty is the thing that will ruin the reputation of Penn State? Get a grip on reality please.

 

[waggy]

IMHO the NCCA is a bunch of pussies. They needed to nuke the program for 5 years. To say that covering up rape is only worth 60 million is a joke. The only thing they got right is nuking the wins for JoePa lol

what good would nuking it for 5 yrs do? who would it punish? Nobody who had anything to do with it.

personally i think the punishment is damn near perfect.

a) 60 mil is going to hurt (and it goes to set up a fund for victims of child molestations) but not going to kill the school.

b) reducing the number of scholarships not huge so kinda meh.

c) no bowls for 4 years. that hurts. Football programs live and die from it. Now no huge names are going to go. why go if you aren't going to get exposure from bowl games?

d) allowing kids to transfer with no penalties. Woo!

e) 5 yrs of supervision.

f) vacating jopa's wins. this sends a message to other coaches that sacrificing kids for a win won't work. The NCAA will vacate them and make it worthless. NOTHING besides this really effects the coach's out now.

 

[SP33Demon]

wow slightly harsher then i thought it would be.the 60mil is more then i thought but they are allowing 10 scholarships (i said no) and no bowls for 4 years (i figured 2).

but by far the worst thing i see is all wins from 98-2011 vacated? bwhahahahah oh man i wish joePA was alive to see this!




they are!? woo! awesome.

Wait, I thought it was losing 20 scholarships (10 initially)? From ESPN:

Penn State must also reduce 10 initial and 20 total scholarships each year for a four-year period.

 

[Deeko]

The vacating of records means nothing. The NCAA should've shut down their entire athletic program and fuck penn st over for good.

Penn State is a respected education institution - and the football program is currently participated in by a number of perfectly innocent college kids. I imagine the NCAA was treading the fine line between ensuring the punishment was harsh while trying to lessen the impact on the students, who certainly don't deserve to be hurt by this.

 

[cubby1223]

NCAA fail. Considering what Penn St did this is a slap on the wrist. They did the minimum not to look bad to the sheeple out there. 30 million to this school is pennies, a 3 year bowl ban is pretty laughable for the crimes they committed.

It's $60m, and a quick google search seems to point at the university having ~$1b in debt. In other words, this judgment is very significant to their financials.

 

[SP33Demon]

It's $60m, and a quick google search seems to point at the university having ~$1b in debt. In other words, this judgment is very significant to their financials.

Link to 1 Bil in debt? I thought their endowment was 2 billion in the black at least.

 

[Jeffg010]

what good would nuking it for 5 yrs do? who would it punish? Nobody who had anything to do with it.

personally i think the punishment is damn near perfect.

a) 60 mil is going to hurt (and it goes to set up a fund for victims of child molestations) but not going to kill the school.

b) reducing the number of scholarships not huge so kinda meh.

c) no bowls for 4 years. that hurts. Football programs live and die from it. Now no huge names are going to go. why go if you aren't going to get exposure from bowl games?

d) allowing kids to transfer with no penalties. Woo!

e) 5 yrs of supervision.

f) vacating jopa's wins. this sends a message to other coaches that sacrificing kids for a win won't work. The NCAA will vacate them and make it worthless. NOTHING besides this really effects the coach's out now.

Nuking the program will get rid of the culture. The culture is anyone that is fan, businesses that made money, the faculty, and students and players of the game. You are not getting rid of the culture with only fines. They still get to play and you still will have fans that will support the culture. What the NCCA did is like pissing in the wind. Everyone who supported PSU football had a hand in it.

 

[waggy]

Nuking the program will get rid of the culture. The culture is anyone that is fan, businesses that made money, the faculty, and students and players of the game. You are not getting rid of the culture with only fines. They still get to play and you still will have fans that will support the culture. What the NCCA did is like pissing in the wind. Everyone who supported PSU football had a hand in it.

no it wouldn't. the "culture" would move on. you can't nuke a culture anyway.

to say EVERYONE who supported PSU football had a hand in it is idiotic. The students who cheered for the team, the players etc had NOTHING to do with it. the people that did? sundusky, jopa, etc. oh and they are either in jail or dead.


lol nuking a culture

Wait, I thought it was losing 20 scholarships (10 initially)? From ESPN:

yeah first post said that. then latter read that it was 10 and 10 to reduce it down to 64 scholarships allowed.

 

[slsmnaz]

Nuking the program will get rid of the culture. The culture is anyone that is fan, businesses that made money, the faculty, and students and players of the game. You are not getting rid of the culture with only fines. They still get to play and you still will have fans that will support the culture. What the NCCA did is like pissing in the wind. Everyone who supported PSU football had a hand in it.

do you have any idea what they just did to the PSU program? Sure they didn't call it the death penalty but the program will take at least a decade to recover, if it ever does. Bowl ban, huge loss of scholarships and it's open season on any active player for any school. Not to mention the recruits jumping ship now. They're done but we get to watch the death every week on national tv

Link to 1 Bil in debt? I thought their endowment was 2 billion in the black at least.

I believe the last number I saw was $1.83bil

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Nuking the program will get rid of the culture. The culture is anyone that is fan, businesses that made money, the faculty, and students and players of the game. You are not getting rid of the culture with only fines. They still get to play and you still will have fans that will support the culture. What the NCCA did is like pissing in the wind.

The penalty is essentially a death penalty for several years while having the advantage of not impacting existing student-athletes or the economies of the communities where these games are played. I'd guess that many of the higher-profile players will take advantage of the transfer with immediate eligibility and those considering the school will now look elsewhere. They'll be lucky to be able to fill the roster the next few years, let alone get any 4 or 5 star recruits. Who will want to go to a school that can't participate in bowls the next few years and has been hamstrung for the next several years by lack of scholarships?

You guys are underestimating the impact of the scholarship reductions, bowl ban, fine, etc. It will likely take PSU a decade or more to recover.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I think the punishment seems about right, and certainly more harmful than the death penalty would have been. There are limits to how much financial damage it makes sense to do to PSU since the victims will still be suing and seeking huge damages.

 

[Phokus]

IMHO the NCCA is a bunch of pussies. They needed to nuke the program for 5 years. To say that covering up rape is only worth 60 million is a joke. The only thing they got right is nuking the wins for JoePa lol

They practically did. In terms of harshness, it's very close to what SMU got i think.

 

[Possessed Freak]

everyone who supported psu football had a hand in it.

fuck you.

 

[darkewaffle]

to say EVERYONE who supported PSU football had a hand in it is idiotic. The students who cheered for the team, the players etc had NOTHING to do with it. the people that did? sundusky, jopa, etc. oh and they are either in jail or dead.

Dude, if you drink German beer you're a neo-nazi. Seems pretty cut and dried to me.

 

[Wordplay]

Yep, taking Paterno's wins was the most important part of this. So who's number one now, Bowden?

The fine should have been bigger but meh. 4 year Bowl ban is perfectly fine with me. While it could have been more severe, this is a huge blow since their football games will mean shit in the grand scheme (i.e. PLAYOFFS!) of things for the next four years unless they upset someone. What'd be cool is if PSU beat a contender during these four years is that it wouldn't count (i.e. just the same as a scrimmage). But you can't get everything I suppose.

That's pretty damn sad IMO. All that means is there will be a little asterisk next to non official record books with the correct numbers.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

They practically did. In terms of harshness, it's very close to what SMU got i think.

This. This punishment will basically demolish their football program for the next 4 to 5 years and it will probably take them a decade or more to get back to where they're accustomed to being.

I think the punishment seems about right, and certainly more harmful than the death penalty would have been. There are limits to how much financial damage it makes sense to do to PSU since the victims will still be suing and seeking huge damages.

And this.

 

[Deeko]

Everyone who supported PSU football had a hand in it.

So you're saying that since when I was a 13 year old kid I bought a Penn State football jacket - I am responsible for the actions of Jerry Sandusky? Grow up.

 

[Phokus]

So you're saying that since when I was a 13 year old kid I bought a Penn State football jacket - I am responsible for the actions of Jerry Sandusky? Grow up.

Good thing you never met him when you were 13 (i kid i kid!)