Penn State protects child rapist that was former famous D-Coordinator

[DrunkenSano]

It's always funny when the truth comes out. I wonder what those who rode JoePa's nuts think of him now or are they still blinded by their JoePaLove.

 

[GWestphal]

Should Penn State football be suspended for 2 years by the NCAA? Penn State is gonna have a tight budget for a while considering all the lawsuits from the 50+ raped kids. You think $1B in punitive damages? I imagine Penn State enroll has seen significant drop this year. Gonna be a rough couple years for Penn State Pedobears... I really hope every game against Penn State has one opponents fan wearing a Pedobear costume.

 

[bignateyk]

Should Penn State football be suspended for 2 years by the NCAA? Penn State is gonna have a tight budget for a while considering all the lawsuits from the 50+ raped kids. You think $1B in punitive damages? I imagine Penn State enroll has seen significant drop this year. Gonna be a rough couple years for Penn State Pedobears... I really hope every game against Penn State has one opponents fan wearing a Pedobear costume.

50+ raped kids? AFAIK its closer to a dozen (that have come forward at least). If they didn't come forward for the criminal trial, I doubt they will have luck getting much money out of the university.

Enrollment has gone up, just like it has every other year: http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/30/penn-state-apps/

Penn State has an annual budget of over 4 billion dollars. That coupled with the fact that theres no way there will be $1B in settlement, they will be just fine.

 

[blankslate]

All those students protesting the investigation because it made Saint Joe look bad need to be bitch slapped.

 

[Miramonti]

All those students protesting the investigation because it made Saint Joe look bad need to be bitch slapped.

Before the report, a student alumni leader was still demanding an apology from the board for firing JoePa the way they did.

link from earlier this year:

Lubrano, Class of 1982, who’s also running for an alumni seat on the board in the spring election, said he’s distraught that Paterno didn’t receive a formal apology from Erickson and the board before his death.

At the event on Friday, Lubrano said he wanted the board to apologize to Paterno and his family for the timing and way Paterno was removed. Lubrano recognized that Paterno was 85 years old and in poor health and told the audience that there could be “permanent damage” within the Penn State community if Paterno passed away before that apology was issued.

“Now that [Paterno] is gone, their opportunity to provide that to him has passed,” Lubrano said Sunday afternoon. “So what could have been a temporary hurt has a much greater chance to become permanent.”

Friday’s event was held for members of the community to come together and share their comments, emotions and reactions for the board’s decision to remove Paterno as head football coach.

Lubrano said he believes in order for the university to heal after Paterno’s death, the board must come to the realization that the firing of Paterno was wrong.

 

[Regs]

I don't think Sandusky is going to last long in prison. Nothing irks a serial killer or homicidal maniac more than a child molester.

 

[momeNt]

I never heard of rape and a man.

-Joe Paterno (2011)

May you never rest in peace.

 

[Icepick]

50+ raped kids? AFAIK its closer to a dozen (that have come forward at least). If they didn't come forward for the criminal trial, I doubt they will have luck getting much money out of the university.

Enrollment has gone up, just like it has every other year: http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/30/penn-state-apps/

Penn State has an annual budget of over 4 billion dollars. That coupled with the fact that theres no way there will be $1B in settlement, they will be just fine.

Who in their right mind would want to carry around a degree from a University that is associated with institutionalized pedophilia? When I see "Penn State" listed on someone's resume or linked in profile this pedophilia scandal is the first thing that comes to mind. The school's alumni are the ones who are really going to be hurting from this scandal for years to come since they already have 10's of thousands of dollars invested in the brand name.

If I'm in the market for a new college degree I, for one, will go well out of my way to avoid this institution.

 

[Icepick]

Should Penn State football be suspended for 2 years by the NCAA? Penn State is gonna have a tight budget for a while considering all the lawsuits from the 50+ raped kids. You think $1B in punitive damages? I imagine Penn State enroll has seen significant drop this year. Gonna be a rough couple years for Penn State Pedobears... I really hope every game against Penn State has one opponents fan wearing a Pedobear costume.

It's a good place to start.

 

[bignateyk]

Who in their right mind would want to carry around a degree from a University that is associated with institutionalized pedophilia? When I see "Penn State" listed on someone's resume or linked in profile this pedophilia scandal is the first thing that comes to mind. The school's alumni are the ones who are really going to be hurting from this scandal for years to come since they already have 10's of thousands of dollars invested in the brand name.

If I'm in the market for a new college degree I, for one, will go well out of my way to avoid this institution.

Not really. I'm 6 years removed from my degree and I get job offers on a regular basis. Anybody with half a brain would realize that this scandal has nothing to do with academics.

 

[abaez]

Not really. I'm 6 years removed from my degree and I get job offers on a regular basis. Anybody with half a brain would realize that this scandal has nothing to do with academics.

Yeah, no one is going to say.. oh don't hire him cause of the football scandal. Nevermind his 4.0GPA from one of the best schools in the country.

 

[SP33Demon]

50+ raped kids? AFAIK its closer to a dozen (that have come forward at least). If they didn't come forward for the criminal trial, I doubt they will have luck getting much money out of the university.

Enrollment has gone up, just like it has every other year: http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/11/30/penn-state-apps/

Penn State has an annual budget of over 4 billion dollars. That coupled with the fact that theres no way there will be $1B in settlement, they will be just fine.

And if all of those kids are given 100 million, then it could be easily over 1B. Not to mention new alum donors are down 37% this year.

 

[bignateyk]

And if all of those kids are given 100 million, then it could be easily over 1B. Not to mention new alum donors are down 37% this year.

Sign me up to be raped if that's the going rate.

 

[Saint Nick]

I agree.
Must find. Quote?

If you read the progression of the events leading up to his retirement, it really feels like the university went out of their way to not 'hurt his feelings' and basically allowed him to get whatever he was asking. And these are people who knew about the incidents in 1998 too! This makes no sense at all.

The retirement requests (p. 181 of Freeh Report) is funny (to me) because it is so obvious what he was doing. I mean, granted, these officials KNEW that JS had "incidents" with children... the retirement requests is the cherry on top. He was essentially requesting everything he would need to continue to molest boys over the next few years. It's funny (to me) because his intent is clear simply in the retirement requests, and while they seemingly were apprehensive about his requests at first, I think they ended up fulfilling most (all?) of them.

You should all definitely read this document and read the notes written all over it.

Retirement Requests

1. An office and telephone
2. $20,000/year annuity that includes protection for Dottie. Please refer to the enclosed economic justification for this request.
3. A title that reflects my relationship with Penn State.
4. To maintain my option to purchase tickets for games for fund-raising.
5. Access to training and workout facilities
6. The opportunity to run a football camp for middle school youth.
7. Discuss ways of maintaining visibility.

 

[zinfamous]

Keep in mind that a lot of school revenue comes from fundraising dollars, and athletics can be enormous sources of fundraising revenue. Phil Knight gave UO hundreds of millions of dollars earmarked for building a new stadium. Penn State, in the wake of this scandal, has had one of its most successful fundraising years in school history. Athletics is a big draw for many donors, which is problematic when a school is given hundreds of millions earmarked towards the athletics department with nothing to spend it on. So it's not fair to say that athletics is some miniscule part of higher education; it's a source of revenue in a lot more ways than ticket sales or merchandise.

The AD at PSU is a separate entity from the university (this is true of only 3 D1 universities, I think).

Aside from the 'ol rape enabling coach's name on their library, I don't think much of that fundraising goes into the actual school. The stadium--I imagine--is controlled by the AD? I could be wrong about that.

PSU is a very large, very good international research institution. They receive metric shit tons of cash from Federal grants (from their PIs whose labs define the research at the school, and whose grants are used to pay the staff of the University) and from foreign interests that would have no clue what "football" is.

 

[waggy]

Who in their right mind would want to carry around a degree from a University that is associated with institutionalized pedophilia? When I see "Penn State" listed on someone's resume or linked in profile this pedophilia scandal is the first thing that comes to mind. The school's alumni are the ones who are really going to be hurting from this scandal for years to come since they already have 10's of thousands of dollars invested in the brand name.

If I'm in the market for a new college degree I, for one, will go well out of my way to avoid this institution.

no problem. If this is your line of thinking i doubt you would get a degree anyway.

IF are in a position of hiring and you refuse to hire someone from Penn state you should be fired. There are 4 people who caused this mess. there are thousands of people associated with Penn state.

If you can't separate the issue from the students you have problems.

 

[DCal430]

The AD at PSU is a separate entity from the university (this is true of only 3 D1 universities, I think).

Aside from the 'ol rape enabling coach's name on their library, I don't think much of that fundraising goes into the actual school. The stadium--I imagine--is controlled by the AD? I could be wrong about that.

PSU is a very large, very good international research institution. They receive metric shit tons of cash from Federal grants (from their PIs whose labs define the research at the school, and whose grants are used to pay the staff of the University) and from foreign interests that would have no clue what "football" is.

The school controls the Athletic Department, the Athletic director reports to the President of the University, who reports to the University Board. While it is a separate legal entity, the same people are in charge of both.

 

[benzylic]

Meet Penn St.'s newest member on the board of trustees.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=c2qI-lH6SIU

 

[waggy]

Meet Penn St.'s newest member on the board of trustees.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=c2qI-lH6SIU

LOL

wonder if he will update now that the report came out.

 

[zinfamous]

The school controls the Athletic Department, the Athletic director reports to the President of the University, who reports to the University Board. While it is a separate legal entity, the same people are in charge of both.

again, the latest figures that I read (and linked very early in this thread), show that the AD contributes about $20-30mil, per year, to the University. That is the revenue that the University profits from all of PSU athletics, and yes--Football is the vast majority of that--and this is after football divvies up their profits to keep the rest of the AD afloat.

all this time--I am simply pointing out the fallacy that athletics, despite their legitimate merits, are not the behemoth revenue generators for the Universities, as people like to claim. That is all I'm saying.

Now, if some donor wants to donate a pile of cash to construct a building, b/c he loves PSU football, that is another thing--and is not directly tied to University revenue. Sure, one can argue that this building will house PIs and their research, and their grants that generate the vast majority of university revenue--but crunching the numbers to argue that the existence of this building is attributable only to football, is dubious, at best. It's just as likely at any given university, that such buildings are funded by academic-inclined alumni, and far more important: local industry leaders that recognize the value in establishing a nearby "PhD factory."

It is more likely that alumni and donors that are pumping money into the university explicitly due to football, are doing so to spend that money on football purposes (training facilities, trophy rooms, stadium upgrades, a statue of pederast-enabling old codger, etc).

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Sign me up to be raped if that's the going rate.

Am I the only one who thinks this comment is beyond fucked up? What the hell is wrong with you? Holy fucking shit.

Meet Penn St.'s newest member on the board of trustees.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=c2qI-lH6SIU

These people, they are completely out of touch with reality. I thought Cupertino's RDF was strong.

 

[DCal430]

What about civil lawsuits, should their be a limit on how much Penn State has to pay? The only thing that bothers me is any large payment will likely mean less money for the academic programs, and more tuition increases for the student. But someone needs to compensate the victims.

 

[zinfamous]

What about civil lawsuits, should their be a limit on how much Penn State has to pay? The only thing that bothers me is any large payment will likely mean less money for the academic programs, and more tuition increases for the student. But someone needs to compensate the victims.

IANAL, but I don't think there is any limit?

But yes, the University is going to get shellacked with civil lawsuits. And yes, the sad reality is that this will, indeed, affect everyone.

This is exactly why accountability of those in charge--The Pres, the PSU PD, the AD is at issue. This is, yet again, part of the message of: "This is what happens when you value football culture over child welfare."

Every University, and every AD, is taking note, to be sure.

 

[Zargon]

Apparently you did not read the Grand Jury report from that time period. LOL at "baseless accusations".

http://www.freep.com/assets/freep/pdf/C4181508116.PDF

where does Joe Paterno's name come up in that?

I never ever said I didnt think sandusky was a guilty sleazebag, others were already calling for shutting PSU down, tho at the time there was little evidence to support the accusations(that ended up being true) that higher ups knew and looked the other way

that they came out right in the end, doesnt make them not basless at the time

and thats why I left, peoples inabiltiy to realize things as simple as that

again, the latest figures that I read (and linked very early in this thread), show that the AD contributes about $20-30mil, per year, to the University. That is the revenue that the University profits from all of PSU athletics, and yes--Football is the vast majority of that--and this is after football divvies up their profits to keep the rest of the AD afloat.

all this time--I am simply pointing out the fallacy that athletics, despite their legitimate merits, are not the behemoth revenue generators for the Universities, as people like to claim. That is all I'm saying.

Now, if some donor wants to donate a pile of cash to construct a building, b/c he loves PSU football, that is another thing--and is not directly tied to University revenue. Sure, one can argue that this building will house PIs and their research, and their grants that generate the vast majority of university revenue--but crunching the numbers to argue that the existence of this building is attributable only to football, is dubious, at best. It's just as likely at any given university, that such buildings are funded by academic-inclined alumni, and far more important: local industry leaders that recognize the value in establishing a nearby "PhD factory."

It is more likely that alumni and donors that are pumping money into the university explicitly due to football, are doing so to spend that money on football purposes (training facilities, trophy rooms, stadium upgrades, a statue of pederast-enabling old codger, etc).

considering their other funding is mostly tax dollars and private donors, I would say its pretty beheamoth

the universities are not businesses, its all taxes, grants, donations, tuition, fees.

the top uni's leverage this to provide a much wider array of facilites to EVERYONE at the university.

U of I put in a killer giant workout facility with pools, courts, climbing wall ETC, mostly paid for by the athletic dept.

its more than just playin ball.....and i am not saying they get a free pass obviously. but every dollar they make is a dollar that isnt raised by tuition or taxes so its kind of a big deal

 

[SP33Demon]

Sign me up to be raped if that's the going rate.

F you Pedo-State fanboy. These kids are living with a lifetime of PTSD due to sucking that guy's old veiny dick and you think it's a joke. Actually, why don't you contact Victim's 1 lawyer Boni and tell them the above comment? Oh wait, you don't have balls just like every other Pedo-State loser, only the balls to post anonymously on a forum.

"My client and his mother were so angry at the revelation that Joe Paterno knew about the initial 1998 investigation into Sandusky that went nowhere," Boni told ESPNNewYork.com in a phone interview Thursday night.

"They see the cover-up and Paterno's knowledge of the allegations back to the late 1990s as the things that caused my client's molestation in 2007 and 2008. But for that cover-up, he would not have been molested by Jerry Sandusky."

Through tears, Victim 1 delivered powerful testimony at Sandusky's trial, telling how Paterno's former defensive coordinator befriended him, assumed the role of a father figure (Victim 1 was raised by his mother) and ultimately assaulted him and forced him to engage in oral sex.

Tell him he doesn't deserve 100 mil you mental midget with the brain of an ebola-infected chimp.