'Pedobear' get justice

[Iron Woode]

check out Canada's way of dealing with a convicted pedophile:

Link to article

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[Chiropteran]

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: Nik

It sure makes me feel a lot better knowing the government is willing to put a bullet straight into a rapist's or a murderer's head if there's concrete proof (DNA) he did it.

DNA is not concrete proof. Certainly not for a barber, who would regularly "share" DNA with random customers.



Clarification: I didn't read the the whole link, maybe there was concrete proof in this case, but "DNA" on it's own isn't concrete proof of anything.

What do you mean MAYBE there was concrete proof? There was, as he admitted it 100%.

Torture someone enough and they will admit to anything.


edit:

also, see http://whereismydata.wordpress...2008/07/03/dna-errors/

DNA is not concrete proof.

 

[Baked]

Originally posted by: Iron Woode
check out Canada's way of dealing with a convicted pedophile:

Link to article

:|

Sucks to be a little girl in Canada. There are pedophiles running around you can't do anything about it.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Negative. Your argument is moronic. It's like arguing that a sportscaster can't comment on the performance of a quarterback because he isn't on the field playing. Torture is systematic and widespread in the Yemeni "justice system," the trials they conduct are, consistent with what one would expect in a Sharia system, summarial in nature, and the punishments meted out are cruel and barbaric. If you seriously doubt that our system is better than what they have in Yemen I encourage you to live in a country that practices Sharia law (which I have, though thank God I was in the US military and not subject to it).

Links to support your claims? Specifically about Yemen, of course? I'm not arguing that our system is better or worse than anyone else's. I'm not educated enough about my own justice system to be able to compare it to others, but I'm not high and mighty enough to pretend to know how Yemen conducts their justice system or omnipotent enough to know for a fact that any and all (or even what percent, if any at all) confessions are bogus. I'm certainly not going to start pointing fingers at them just because I don't trust them.

Yemen justice system links, sir?

Originally posted by: magomago
Oh please, don't make it seem as if only logical smart people do not believe in God. Logically, its impossible to prove or disprove God. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. I don't believe we will ever solve that specific question either. It is faith - belief in that which can't be proven nor dis proven.

Speaking of overzealous fanatics....

Yes, you're absolutely right. You can't prove that god exists any more than you can disprove it. However, there's a significant lack of evidence for it and I can believe in unicorns until I'm blue in the face and that doesn't make my faith valid :laugh: Keep religion out of government; the two conflict.

 

[amdhunter]

Should've raped a girl instead. Then he could've just blamed the devil and all would have been well.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: amdhunter
Should've raped a girl instead. Then he could've just blamed the devil and all would have been well.

Yes, only the girl would have been stoned to death after being raped because she is no longer innocent and pure and not worthy of marriage. :roll:

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Negative. Your argument is moronic. It's like arguing that a sportscaster can't comment on the performance of a quarterback because he isn't on the field playing. Torture is systematic and widespread in the Yemeni "justice system," the trials they conduct are, consistent with what one would expect in a Sharia system, summarial in nature, and the punishments meted out are cruel and barbaric. If you seriously doubt that our system is better than what they have in Yemen I encourage you to live in a country that practices Sharia law (which I have, though thank God I was in the US military and not subject to it).

Links to support your claims? Specifically about Yemen, of course? I'm not arguing that our system is better or worse than anyone else's. I'm not educated enough about my own justice system to be able to compare it to others, but I'm not high and mighty enough to pretend to know how Yemen conducts their justice system or omnipotent enough to know for a fact that any and all (or even what percent, if any at all) confessions are bogus. I'm certainly not going to start pointing fingers at them just because I don't trust them.

Yemen justice system links, sir?

Originally posted by: magomago
Oh please, don't make it seem as if only logical smart people do not believe in God. Logically, its impossible to prove or disprove God. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. I don't believe we will ever solve that specific question either. It is faith - belief in that which can't be proven nor dis proven.

Speaking of overzealous fanatics....

Yes, you're absolutely right. You can't prove that god exists any more than you can disprove it. However, there's a significant lack of evidence for it and I can believe in unicorns until I'm blue in the face and that doesn't make my faith valid :laugh: Keep religion out of government; the two conflict.

When the hell did I say the last part? Go back and carefully look at what I said. I said nothing of the sort.
I discussed my personal view on this case using religion because it occured in a Muslim country and I'm sure the rationale was somehow based on religion. Yemen uses some form of Sharia (which I personally feel isn't Sharia as discussed by the Quran at all, but that is an entirely different debate) and claims their system comes from Quran + Hadith (latter being,in muslim eyes, prone to error as its entirely human generated).
From my own understanding, I said that, I would be disturbed because that is not how I understand things in the Quran at this moment. It talks over and over about compassion for those who recognize the error in their ways, regardless of the crime/sin committed. I suggested what I viewed as potentially a more 'honest' attempt to conform in line with what the Quran says (as this law is supposedely derived from the Quran). I also said that I'm not an expert in Islamic Law, and I would probaly need more knowledge on this topic.

Never at all did I say the two should be mixed, never at all did I imply we should mix the two (I often come down against it because of the way it is implemented).

Again: just because there is a lack of evidence of God does not mean that it is proof of non existence.
I'm not bothered by it at all - I honestly believe it is something we will never answer. God, in the Quran, directly states that some things will always be part of the realm of the 'unknown' (al ghayb), such as how can we have free will while still maintaing the omnipotenence of this superior force. Does this mean we should stop seeking to answer those questions? Nope - we may find doors and open up avenues into other things on accident ~ many great discoveries come by accident.

On a slightly different note, and perhaps something you may find interesting, Steven Hawking believes that the universe simply spontaneously came into being.
www.ted.com/talks/stephen_hawking_asks_big_questions_about_the_universe.html -

 

[Nik]

Yeah, that's all well and good (and loaded with brainwashed garbage), but keep your "god" points out of a conversation about law and justice and order.

Your god has killed more people than any government EVER.

 

[amdhunter]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: amdhunter
Should've raped a girl instead. Then he could've just blamed the devil and all would have been well.

Yes, only the girl would have been stoned to death after being raped because she is no longer innocent and pure and not worthy of marriage. :roll:

win-win?

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: amdhunter

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: amdhunter
Should've raped a girl instead. Then he could've just blamed the devil and all would have been well.

Yes, only the girl would have been stoned to death after being raped because she is no longer innocent and pure and not worthy of marriage. :roll:

win-win?

No, and not even funny. It happens all the time in the middle east. Some innocent girl gets raped and society is so fucked up over there, driven by fucking insane brainwashed religious nutjobs, that instead of giving the girl help, they give her a 10 kilo stone to the brain.

Fucking cavemen.

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: Nik
Yeah, that's all well and good (and loaded with brainwashed garbage), but keep your "god" points out of a conversation about law and justice and order.

Your god has killed more people than any government EVER.

lawl.

Talk about being brainwashed (as well as an zealot)...you can barely carry on a conversation on this topic because you don't seem to understand what I'm saying, and you sound like a broken record.

anyways I think I'm done with this topic. I can't imagine it leading to anything else beyond more and more insults.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

lol, yeah i trust a yemenese trial.

 

[cliftonite]

Originally posted by: Nik
Yeah, that's all well and good (and loaded with brainwashed garbage), but keep your "god" points out of a conversation about law and justice and order.

Your god has killed more people than any government EVER.

Links to support your claims? Specifically about Islam, of course? I'm not arguing that you are wrong. But I'm not educated enough about Islam to be able to compare it to others, but I'm not high and mighty enough to pretend to know how many people Islam has killed. or omnipotent enough to know for a fact that any and all (or even what percent, if any at all) statistics are bogus. I'm certainly not going to start pointing fingers at them just because I don't trust them.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: Nik
Yeah, that's all well and good (and loaded with brainwashed garbage), but keep your "god" points out of a conversation about law and justice and order.

Your god has killed more people than any government EVER.

lawl.

Talk about being brainwashed (as well as an zealot)...you can barely carry on a conversation on this topic because you don't seem to understand what I'm saying, and you sound like a broken record.

anyways I think I'm done with this topic. I can't imagine it leading to anything else beyond more and more insults.

I could post dozens of links about how violent and ass-backwards Islam is, but I know you'll reject them. You're blind because of your religion and that's exactly why you're dangerous and not even worth arguing with.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: Nik
Yeah, that's all well and good (and loaded with brainwashed garbage), but keep your "god" points out of a conversation about law and justice and order.

Your god has killed more people than any government EVER.

Links to support your claims? Specifically about Islam, of course? I'm not arguing that you are wrong. But I'm not educated enough about Islam to be able to compare it to others, but I'm not high and mighty enough to pretend to know how many people Islam has killed. or omnipotent enough to know for a fact that any and all (or even what percent, if any at all) statistics are bogus. I'm certainly not going to start pointing fingers at them just because I don't trust them.

Nice.

Knock yourself out.

 

[GiggleGirl]

seriously, the rape and/or murder of a child should be punishable by execution. i dont effing care how its done; shoot him, torture him, beat him to death, injection, electric chair! i dont care. fucker needs to pay for being a sick fuck IMO. i look at it as if my daughter were the victim.... he would deserve no justice. end of story

 

[Legendary]

Links to support your claims? Specifically about Yemen, of course? I'm not arguing that our system is better or worse than anyone else's. I'm not educated enough about my own justice system to be able to compare it to others, but I'm not high and mighty enough to pretend to know how Yemen conducts their justice system or omnipotent enough to know for a fact that any and all (or even what percent, if any at all) confessions are bogus. I'm certainly not going to start pointing fingers at them just because I don't trust them. Yemen justice system links, sir?

(from your earlier post to Don Vito)

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: cliftonite

Originally posted by: Nik
Yeah, that's all well and good (and loaded with brainwashed garbage), but keep your "god" points out of a conversation about law and justice and order.

Your god has killed more people than any government EVER.

Links to support your claims? Specifically about Islam, of course? I'm not arguing that you are wrong. But I'm not educated enough about Islam to be able to compare it to others, but I'm not high and mighty enough to pretend to know how many people Islam has killed. or omnipotent enough to know for a fact that any and all (or even what percent, if any at all) statistics are bogus. I'm certainly not going to start pointing fingers at them just because I don't trust them.

Nice.

Knock yourself out.

If that's the standard, knock yourself out

edit: since you're likely too lazy from a yemeni MP about human rights in yemen

Also it's likely Stalin killed more people than whatever nebulous entity you call 'Islam'

Don't underestimate the importance of the slow methodical nature of our legal system. It's impossible to tell how many lives/years in prison it has saved over time.