'Pedobear' get justice

[GiggleGirl]

Originally posted by: Nik
If you're truely sorry for your sins, we can put you out of our misery and you can ask god for forgiveness in person.

this

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: marvdmartian

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage

Originally posted by: Dumac
Maybe it is just me, but I wouldn't go to watch that.

I don't think I would either...

This is why it should be televised, during Prime Time. You'd be amazed how many people sitting the fence on whether or not they should commit the crime they'd been considering might then decide not to.

And yes, I wouldn't mind seeing a return of some public displays of corporal punishment too.

I have to agree.

The only practical argument people have against execution is that it doesnt work as a deterrent. Well, maybe if we actually used on a regular basis and didnt let people appeal for 20 years it might work!

 

[GiggleGirl]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: moshquerade
two wongs make a sword fight

Fixed

You'd like that, wouldn't you

Maybe. Then again, maybe not.

Now this is getting hawt...an element of mystery has been introduced.

Something thickens. Could it be the plot?

Perhaps the thin bladed swords have thickened into logs....

Have you ever been log rolling?

Now two things have peaked, one of them being my interest....

im pretty sure its piqued... just fyi

 

[DayLaPaul]

Originally posted by: lyssword

Originally posted by: eLiu

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage

Originally posted by: Dumac
Maybe it is just me, but I wouldn't go to watch that.

I don't think I would either...

kiddin'? I'd pay to be the executioner!

I wouldn't watch it either. Unfortunately for every person who wouldn't watch, there would be 5 who would.

Why is that unfortunate?

 

[tboo]

I thought this was another Michael Jackson thread.

 

[BW86]

ouch

 

[SP33Demon]

Sure would save a lot of red tape here.

 

[mAdMaLuDaWg]

From the article:

The deeply religious desert country has a poor human rights record and it is unclear if the barber had a fair trial.

 

[swbsam]

Yes, let's look to an extremist arab nation as an ideal, let's shoot our criminals on the streets, or have a beheading or too!

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: moshquerade
Two Wongs can make it whitetwo wongs make a sword fight

Fixed

fixed again

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: Damn Dirty Ape

Originally posted by: hanoverphist
holy scheezies, i wonder how that would go over here lol. i bet that would be a decent deterrent if it were a regular thing.

and that article sux with all the random jumping around from this story and the others mixed in.

don't think deterrents really work.. no one committing a crime of any degree is thinking 'gee I could get caught and shot in the head for this...' Especially the more serious crimes.

Is someone who would rape a little boy thinking in a rational mind in the first place to be concerned with what could happen to him for doing it?

nope.

most criminals DO have that thought of getting caught in their head. i used to be a criminal, and i thought about it every time i did something i know i shouldnt have been doing. its a process of weighing the pros and cons, every time. i understand what you are saying about that type of crime tho, some people just arent right in the head and do shit most would think totally against. but for those people doing and knowing its wrong, this would be in that "cons" column.

 

[kalrith]

Regardless of whether the public display would be a deterrent to other criminals (I certainly think it would be), we know with absolute certainty that that murderer/rapist/pedophile will never harm anyone else. We also know that the citizens of Yemen will not have to pay his room and board for 50 years while he lives better than many citizens do.

I don't agree with a lot of what Yemen does, but this punishment seems warranted IMO. And if he truly admitted his guilt, then there's no question of killing an innocent man.

 

[JeffreyLebowski]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: keird
That bullet costs less than 50 cents. Rope is expensive by comparison, but can be reused. I'm on the fence about the execution.

Bullets make it better for the spectators and TV. Better ratings, more money in ad revenue. The bullets pay for themselves many times over.

The rope has more advertising space though?
Todays execution brought to you by Tide and Coca-Cola
"Tide, it's great for getting blood stains out. Have an ice cold Coca-Cola as your last request."

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: magomago
Come on Nik, read what I wrote. Comprehension you schmuck!

Of course, unless I wasn't clear that I'm referring to a repeated attempt...

You're bringing god into this. Your god doesn't belong in this conversation whatsoever.

You're really willing to give a raping murderer a second chance? I bet the 2nd family he slaughters will understand your point of view perfectly :roll:

I'd love to see your reaction if your family were the 2nd family. Guarantee you would change your tune so fast my head would spin.

We were talking about Yemen, an Islamic state.
From wiki:

Since the country is an Islamic state, the Islamic Law (Sharia) is the main source for laws. Indeed, many court cases are debated according to the religious basis of law, and many judges are religious scholars as well as legal authorities. Unlike Saudi Arabia and other Islamic states, however, consumption of alcohol by non-Muslims is tolerated.

I am a Muslim. I read the Quran like other Muslims. On a legal system that claims to be based on Islamic Law, I think it is very relevant to discuss this. I wouldn't be suprised if it was a religious council that came up with the verdict and probably recited verses as part of their justification. Of course 'their God' is 'my God' (btw I don't like this singular notion of God...we really need to change and expand how we see God, but this gets off tangent). In this discussion it is perfectly fair game.

If my family was the second family, and this was after he allegedly mended his ways, then death to him.

Well good for you. Some of us, you know the logical ones who don't believe in invisible imaginary gods, like to think that humans have a carnal, evil nature and don't feel like giving them a second chance. He raped and murdered a kid and murdered the kid's father. Fuck him. They should have set him on fire and let him burn.

Who doesn't know what an Islamic state is? I'm not that stupid. One of the few things I agree on with their government is how they handle horrific psychopathic assholes like this guy.

Whichever fake god (an oxymoron, I know) anyone serves should not have any say in government. Anyone who says otherwise is an overzealous religious fanatic.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt

Originally posted by: keird
That bullet costs less than 50 cents. Rope is expensive by comparison, but can be reused. I'm on the fence about the execution.

Bullets make it better for the spectators and TV. Better ratings, more money in ad revenue. The bullets pay for themselves many times over.

The rope has more advertising space though?
Todays execution brought to you by Tide and Coca-Cola
"Tide, it's great for getting blood stains out. Have an ice cold Coca-Cola as your last request."

:laugh:

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You've got to wonder about the "trial" and how the "confession" was obtained.

That's the thing. If we can somehow know that this guy is guilty I have no problem with Yemen deciding to punish him this way, but I am highly wary of the fairness of the process and the authenticity of his confession.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You've got to wonder about the "trial" and how the "confession" was obtained.

That's the thing. If we can somehow know that this guy is guilty I have no problem with Yemen deciding to punish him this way, but I am highly wary of the fairness of the process and the authenticity of his confession.

I'd rather be beaten to death by police than confess to a crime I didn't commit and be sentenced to death.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Nik

I'd rather be beaten to death by police than confess to a crime I didn't commit and be sentenced to death.

It doesn't take beating. The research shows that through mere sleep deprivation a person will become so suggestible within a day or two it can be possible to elicit a confession to just about anything. Obviously I have no idea whether this guy was guilty or not - I hope he was since he's dead now - but it would be foolish IMO to have any confidence whatsoever in the quality of his confession.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

Originally posted by: Nik

I'd rather be beaten to death by police than confess to a crime I didn't commit and be sentenced to death.

It doesn't take beating. The research shows that through mere sleep deprivation a person will become so suggestible within a day or two it can be possible to elicit a confession to just about anything. Obviously I have no idea whether this guy was guilty or not - I hope he was since he's dead now - but it would be foolish IMO to have any confidence whatsoever in the quality of his confession.

Planting mistrust in a foreign country's policy, ethics, and process is easy to do. Certainly, innocent people have never been sent to death row in this country, so we are obviously the plumb line against which all other nations should be weighed and measured.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Nik

Planting mistrust in a foreign country's policy, ethics, and process is easy to do. Certainly, innocent people have never been sent to death row in this country, so we are obviously the plumb line against which all other nations should be weighed and measured.

Speaking as a person who has spent a decade working in our own justice system, I certainly do not harbor any delusions that we are perfect. Actually this is the main reason I oppose the death penalty - the prospect of executing the innocent (which we have certainly done) is more than I am willing to accept. That being said, there is no question in my mind that our system of justice is vastly fairer and more neutral than what they have in Yemen. It would be absurd to suggest otherwise.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

Originally posted by: Nik

Planting mistrust in a foreign country's policy, ethics, and process is easy to do. Certainly, innocent people have never been sent to death row in this country, so we are obviously the plumb line against which all other nations should be weighed and measured.

Speaking as a person who has spent a decade working in our own justice system, I certainly do not harbor any delusions that we are perfect. Actually this is the main reason I oppose the death penalty - the prospect of executing the innocent (which we have certainly done) is more than I am willing to accept. That being said, there is no question in my mind that our system of justice is vastly fairer and more neutral than what they have in Yemen. It would be absurd to suggest otherwise.

What would be truely absurd is for one to assume that one would know anything about the legal system in Yemen if one has not ever been involved in it, recognized in that country as legal counsel by Yemen law.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

Speaking as a person who has spent a decade working in our own justice system, I certainly do not harbor any delusions that we are perfect. Actually this is the main reason I oppose the death penalty - the prospect of executing the innocent (which we have certainly done) is more than I am willing to accept. That being said, there is no question in my mind that our system of justice is vastly fairer and more neutral than what they have in Yemen. It would be absurd to suggest otherwise.

What would be truely absurd is for one to assume that one would know anything about the legal system in Yemen if one has not ever been involved in it, recognized in that country as legal counsel by Yemen law.

Negative. Your argument is moronic. It's like arguing that a sportscaster can't comment on the performance of a quarterback because he isn't on the field playing. Torture is systematic and widespread in the Yemeni "justice system," the trials they conduct are, consistent with what one would expect in a Sharia system, summarial in nature, and the punishments meted out are cruel and barbaric. If you seriously doubt that our system is better than what they have in Yemen I encourage you to live in a country that practices Sharia law (which I have, though thank God I was in the US military and not subject to it).

 

[Baked]

Oh the humanity. Where are the human rights groups? They should be all over this.

 

[ghost recon88]

No Michael Jackson comments yet? Just saying, you know, about him and his little boys...

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: magomago
Come on Nik, read what I wrote. Comprehension you schmuck!

Of course, unless I wasn't clear that I'm referring to a repeated attempt...

You're bringing god into this. Your god doesn't belong in this conversation whatsoever.

You're really willing to give a raping murderer a second chance? I bet the 2nd family he slaughters will understand your point of view perfectly :roll:

I'd love to see your reaction if your family were the 2nd family. Guarantee you would change your tune so fast my head would spin.

We were talking about Yemen, an Islamic state.
From wiki:

Since the country is an Islamic state, the Islamic Law (Sharia) is the main source for laws. Indeed, many court cases are debated according to the religious basis of law, and many judges are religious scholars as well as legal authorities. Unlike Saudi Arabia and other Islamic states, however, consumption of alcohol by non-Muslims is tolerated.

I am a Muslim. I read the Quran like other Muslims. On a legal system that claims to be based on Islamic Law, I think it is very relevant to discuss this. I wouldn't be suprised if it was a religious council that came up with the verdict and probably recited verses as part of their justification. Of course 'their God' is 'my God' (btw I don't like this singular notion of God...we really need to change and expand how we see God, but this gets off tangent). In this discussion it is perfectly fair game.

If my family was the second family, and this was after he allegedly mended his ways, then death to him.

Well good for you. Some of us, you know the logical ones who don't believe in invisible imaginary gods, like to think that humans have a carnal, evil nature and don't feel like giving them a second chance. He raped and murdered a kid and murdered the kid's father. Fuck him. They should have set him on fire and let him burn.

Who doesn't know what an Islamic state is? I'm not that stupid. One of the few things I agree on with their government is how they handle horrific psychopathic assholes like this guy.

Whichever fake god (an oxymoron, I know) anyone serves should not have any say in government. Anyone who says otherwise is an overzealous religious fanatic.

Oh please, don't make it seem as if only logical smart people do not believe in God. Logically, its impossible to prove or disprove God. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. I don't believe we will ever solve that specific question either. It is faith - belief in that which can't be proven nor dis proven.

Speaking of overzealous fanatics....