'Pedobear' get justice

[Epic Fail]

Originally posted by: marvdmartian

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage

Originally posted by: Dumac
Maybe it is just me, but I wouldn't go to watch that.

I don't think I would either...

This is why it should be televised, during Prime Time. You'd be amazed how many people sitting the fence on whether or not they should commit the crime they'd been considering might then decide not to.

And yes, I wouldn't mind seeing a return of some public displays of corporal punishment too.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111737/

 

[Chiropteran]

Originally posted by: Nik

It sure makes me feel a lot better knowing the government is willing to put a bullet straight into a rapist's or a murderer's head if there's concrete proof (DNA) he did it.

DNA is not concrete proof. Certainly not for a barber, who would regularly "share" DNA with random customers.



Clarification: I didn't read the the whole link, maybe there was concrete proof in this case, but "DNA" on it's own isn't concrete proof of anything.

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: Nik

It sure makes me feel a lot better knowing the government is willing to put a bullet straight into a rapist's or a murderer's head if there's concrete proof (DNA) he did it.

DNA is not concrete proof. Certainly not for a barber, who would regularly "share" DNA with random customers.



Clarification: I didn't read the the whole link, maybe there was concrete proof in this case, but "DNA" on it's own isn't concrete proof of anything.

What do you mean MAYBE there was concrete proof? There was, as he admitted it 100%.

 

[OutHouse]

where are the pics after the cop pulled the trigger?

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: Nik

It sure makes me feel a lot better knowing the government is willing to put a bullet straight into a rapist's or a murderer's head if there's concrete proof (DNA) he did it.

DNA is not concrete proof. Certainly not for a barber, who would regularly "share" DNA with random customers.



Clarification: I didn't read the the whole link, maybe there was concrete proof in this case, but "DNA" on it's own isn't concrete proof of anything.

Rape victim with semen inside. Poof, proof. Murder victim that assaults his victims and the victims have the murderer's skin under their nails after fighting back. Poof, proof. Eight year old boy has priest-juice in his ass. Poof, proof.

DNA isn't proof of anything :roll:

 

[eLiu]

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage

Originally posted by: Dumac
Maybe it is just me, but I wouldn't go to watch that.

I don't think I would either...

kiddin'? I'd pay to be the executioner!

 

[magomago]

oh wtff bbq? I would be scared of the bullet bouncing back and hitting me!

I dunno I'm not too comfortable with this. I'll bring in Islam because Yemen is considered a Muslim country.

Islamically, what he genuinely repented for his sins and mended his ways? In the Quran, one can ascribe partners to God or deny God (ie: commit the gravest sin possible), yet still be entirely forgiven by God (as - the Quran says over and over, god is the most merciful, the most gracious) if they sincerely repent in their hearts (don't need to quote a passage from the Quran because its literally repeated over and over). If holding multiple partners to God or denying God, which is established as the gravest offense, can be forgiven by God, then surely something like this can also be forgiven by God.
If it sounds hard to believe - denying God appears to concern a matter of spirituality while this is a matter of physical life (ie: dead child). However, one would do well to take a look at some of the hadith: remember that the uncle of Prophet Muhammed, Hamza, was killed by Wah-shee, a slave who was promised freedom by his owners if he killed Hamza, in the Battle of Uhud. Later, Wah-shee showed up in front of the Prophet reciting the Sha-ha-dah (decleration of faith in Islam). Was he killed? Nope. Instead, he was exhorted by the prophet to make amends for what he had done. He went on to have an important role.

Moral of the story? If you commit a sin, you can cancel it out by committing good acts. Another key piece of information is that even killing others can be forgiven by other humans if one is sincere and Prophet Mohammed, although not happy as he told Wah-shee to not show his face in front of him, was able to accept the situation.

So I have a problem with this punishment unless he refused to repent for his actions. That doesn't mean that one can commit sins and then 'repent' for shits and giggles. I would think that a repeat offense builds a case to show that one truly hasn't repented. Furthermore, God knows your true intentions and even if you deceive humans, God will still pwn you with a holy banstick.

Furthermore, this isn't to say that its a 'get out of jail free card'. He will still have to deal with paying blood money for the murder of this innocent child. That itself could put him in debt for a LOOOONG time EVEN IF he truly realizes the error of his way, and makes amends and engages in good actions to cancel out this heinous crime.

edit:
Lol clarficiation

 

[Q]

What a sicko

 

[Safeway]

Originally posted by: magomago
oh wtff bbq? I would be scared of the bullet bouncing back and hitting me!

I dunno I'm not too comfortable with this. I'll bring in Islam because Yemen is considered a Muslim country.

Islamically, what he genuinely repented for his sins and mended his ways? In the Quran, one can ascribe partners to God or deny God (ie: commit the gravest sin possible), yet still be entirely forgiven by God (as - the Quran says over and over, god is the most merciful, the most gracious) if they sincerely repent in their hearts (don't need to quote a passage from the Quran because its literally repeated over and over). If holding multiple partners to God or denying God, which is established as the gravest offense, can be forgiven by God, then surely something like this can also be forgiven by God.
If it sounds hard to believe - denying God appears to concern a matter of spirituality while this is a matter of physical life (ie: dead child). However, one would do well to take a look at some of the hadith: remember that the uncle of Prophet Muhammed, Hamza, was killed by Wah-shee, a slave who was promised freedom by his owners if he killed Hamza, in the Battle of Uhud. Later, Wah-shee showed up in front of the Prophet reciting the Sha-ha-dah (decleration of faith in Islam). Was he killed? Nope. Instead, he was exhorted by the prophet to make amends for what he had done. He went on to have an important role.

Moral of the story? If you commit a sin, you can cancel it out by committing good acts. Another key piece of information is that even killing others can be forgiven by God if one is sincere.

So I have a problem with this punishment unless he refused to repent for his actions. That doesn't mean that one can commit sins and then 'repent' for shits and giggles. I would think that a repeat offense builds a case to show that one truly hasn't repented. Furthermore, God knows your true intentions and even if you deceive humans, God will still pwn you with a holy banstick.

Furthermore, this isn't to say that its a 'get out of jail free card'. He will still have to deal with paying blood money for the murder of this innocent child. That itself could put him in debt for a LOOOONG time EVEN IF he truly realizes the error of his way, and makes amends and engages in good actions to cancel out this heinous crime.

The moral of the story: If (Pedophile), Get (Killed).

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: magomago
oh wtff bbq? I would be scared of the bullet bouncing back and hitting me!

I dunno I'm not too comfortable with this. I'll bring in Islam because Yemen is considered a Muslim country.

Islamically, what he genuinely repented for his sins and mended his ways? In the Quran, one can ascribe partners to God or deny God (ie: commit the gravest sin possible), yet still be entirely forgiven by God (as - the Quran says over and over, god is the most merciful, the most gracious) if they sincerely repent in their hearts (don't need to quote a passage from the Quran because its literally repeated over and over). If holding multiple partners to God or denying God, which is established as the gravest offense, can be forgiven by God, then surely something like this can also be forgiven by God.
If it sounds hard to believe - denying God appears to concern a matter of spirituality while this is a matter of physical life (ie: dead child). However, one would do well to take a look at some of the hadith: remember that the uncle of Prophet Muhammed, Hamza, was killed by Wah-shee, a slave who was promised freedom by his owners if he killed Hamza, in the Battle of Uhud. Later, Wah-shee showed up in front of the Prophet reciting the Sha-ha-dah (decleration of faith in Islam). Was he killed? Nope. Instead, he was exhorted by the prophet to make amends for what he had done. He went on to have an important role.

Moral of the story? If you commit a sin, you can cancel it out by committing good acts. Another key piece of information is that even killing others can be forgiven by God if one is sincere.

So I have a problem with this punishment unless he refused to repent for his actions. That doesn't mean that one can commit sins and then 'repent' for shits and giggles. I would think that a repeat offense builds a case to show that one truly hasn't repented. Furthermore, God knows your true intentions and even if you deceive humans, God will still pwn you with a holy banstick.

Furthermore, this isn't to say that its a 'get out of jail free card'. He will still have to deal with paying blood money for the murder of this innocent child. That itself could put him in debt for a LOOOONG time EVEN IF he truly realizes the error of his way, and makes amends and engages in good actions to cancel out this heinous crime.

Okay.

I'm going to murder your ENTIRE FAMILY, all of your friends, and anyone you've ever known and cared for, all at once in front of you. Then I'm going to shoot you in the knees, the hips, the shoulders, blow your balls off with a shotgun, drop you off at a hospital, and rape your cat.

But it's all good if I say sorry, right?

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: Nik

It sure makes me feel a lot better knowing the government is willing to put a bullet straight into a rapist's or a murderer's head if there's concrete proof (DNA) he did it.

DNA is not concrete proof. Certainly not for a barber, who would regularly "share" DNA with random customers.



Clarification: I didn't read the the whole link, maybe there was concrete proof in this case, but "DNA" on it's own isn't concrete proof of anything.

What do you mean MAYBE there was concrete proof? There was, as he admitted it 100%.

i wonder how those yemenis would feel if we claimed the same about everyone in abu garib

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: magomago
oh wtff bbq? I would be scared of the bullet bouncing back and hitting me!

I dunno I'm not too comfortable with this. I'll bring in Islam because Yemen is considered a Muslim country.

Islamically, what he genuinely repented for his sins and mended his ways? In the Quran, one can ascribe partners to God or deny God (ie: commit the gravest sin possible), yet still be entirely forgiven by God (as - the Quran says over and over, god is the most merciful, the most gracious) if they sincerely repent in their hearts (don't need to quote a passage from the Quran because its literally repeated over and over). If holding multiple partners to God or denying God, which is established as the gravest offense, can be forgiven by God, then surely something like this can also be forgiven by God.
If it sounds hard to believe - denying God appears to concern a matter of spirituality while this is a matter of physical life (ie: dead child). However, one would do well to take a look at some of the hadith: remember that the uncle of Prophet Muhammed, Hamza, was killed by Wah-shee, a slave who was promised freedom by his owners if he killed Hamza, in the Battle of Uhud. Later, Wah-shee showed up in front of the Prophet reciting the Sha-ha-dah (decleration of faith in Islam). Was he killed? Nope. Instead, he was exhorted by the prophet to make amends for what he had done. He went on to have an important role.

Moral of the story? If you commit a sin, you can cancel it out by committing good acts. Another key piece of information is that even killing others can be forgiven by God if one is sincere.

So I have a problem with this punishment unless he refused to repent for his actions. That doesn't mean that one can commit sins and then 'repent' for shits and giggles. I would think that a repeat offense builds a case to show that one truly hasn't repented. Furthermore, God knows your true intentions and even if you deceive humans, God will still pwn you with a holy banstick.

Furthermore, this isn't to say that its a 'get out of jail free card'. He will still have to deal with paying blood money for the murder of this innocent child. That itself could put him in debt for a LOOOONG time EVEN IF he truly realizes the error of his way, and makes amends and engages in good actions to cancel out this heinous crime.

Okay.

I'm going to murder your ENTIRE FAMILY, all of your friends, and anyone you've ever known and cared for, all at once in front of you. Then I'm going to shoot you in the knees, the hips, the shoulders, blow your balls off with a shotgun, drop you off at a hospital, and rape your cat.

But it's all good if I say sorry, right?

Focus on what I said at the end.

Trust me I'm not sitting here saying this from a position of "LOLS NEVER WILL IT HAPPEN TO ME". It is entirely different for the family whose child does not exist anymore.

Now let us assume you did it not because of any mental disease or problem, but simply becuase you were a total fucker.

I honestly believe that if you truly and sincerely repent for your actions, mend your ways, and make a huge effort to commit acts of good through the rest of your life constantly, then I can't ask for anything more. The rest is between you and God

....oh except for the fact that I will sue you to (a) pay all medical bills (b) sue for the pain of losing my family members [blood money], (c) sue you for all punitive damages that are possible (hey, look at the list of what you wrote). When it comes down to it, I'd expect you to literally be, till the day you die, working the rest of your whole life simply paying me off.

And if I found out you were snicking about it, got wind that you didn't really mend or change your ways, purposely slacked off in work because you hated the fact that I pretty much took everything you will make due to what you did to me....then I would pursue every legal method that would get your ass killed. And if it took too long to proceed through the system, I wouldn't be opposed to vigilante justice to get it done.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: magomago


I honestly believe that if you truly and sincerely repent for your actions, mend your ways, and make a huge effort to commit acts of good through the rest of your life constantly, then I can't ask for anything more. The rest is between you and God

Crap like that has no place in the judicial system.

We cannot base decisions today on the assumption that there is a man in the sky to make things right.

 

[Nik]

If you're truely sorry for your sins, we can put you out of our misery and you can ask god for forgiveness in person.

 

[Safeway]

Have you heard of the phrase, "For the greater good?"

Kill first, question later when it comes to sick fscks.

 

[arkcom]

Originally posted by: magomago
oh wtff bbq? I would be scared of the bullet bouncing back and hitting me!

I dunno I'm not too comfortable with this. I'll bring in Islam because Yemen is considered a Muslim country.

Islamically, what he genuinely repented for his sins and mended his ways? In the Quran, one can ascribe partners to God or deny God (ie: commit the gravest sin possible), yet still be entirely forgiven by God (as - the Quran says over and over, god is the most merciful, the most gracious) if they sincerely repent in their hearts (don't need to quote a passage from the Quran because its literally repeated over and over). If holding multiple partners to God or denying God, which is established as the gravest offense, can be forgiven by God, then surely something like this can also be forgiven by God.
If it sounds hard to believe - denying God appears to concern a matter of spirituality while this is a matter of physical life (ie: dead child). However, one would do well to take a look at some of the hadith: remember that the uncle of Prophet Muhammed, Hamza, was killed by Wah-shee, a slave who was promised freedom by his owners if he killed Hamza, in the Battle of Uhud. Later, Wah-shee showed up in front of the Prophet reciting the Sha-ha-dah (decleration of faith in Islam). Was he killed? Nope. Instead, he was exhorted by the prophet to make amends for what he had done. He went on to have an important role.

Moral of the story? If you commit a sin, you can cancel it out by committing good acts. Another key piece of information is that even killing others can be forgiven by other humans if one is sincere and Prophet Mohammed, although not happy as he told Wah-shee to not show his face in front of him, was able to accept the situation.

So I have a problem with this punishment unless he refused to repent for his actions. That doesn't mean that one can commit sins and then 'repent' for shits and giggles. I would think that a repeat offense builds a case to show that one truly hasn't repented. Furthermore, God knows your true intentions and even if you deceive humans, God will still pwn you with a holy banstick.

Furthermore, this isn't to say that its a 'get out of jail free card'. He will still have to deal with paying blood money for the murder of this innocent child. That itself could put him in debt for a LOOOONG time EVEN IF he truly realizes the error of his way, and makes amends and engages in good actions to cancel out this heinous crime.

edit:
Lol clarficiation

If he truly repented (or not), he's taking it up with God right now.

 

[Kirby]

Forgiveness and punishment are not mutually exclusive.

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: Nik
If you're truely sorry for your sins, we can put you out of our misery and you can ask god for forgiveness in person.

Lawl - your ideas are well developed and thought out. You'd think it would end along the lines of "I understand and respect your concept, but still disagree because I don't believe A B C ,and would want him dead"

Hmm...or perhaps your post is tongue in cheek you chump

P.S. Let me kid you not...if we applied the logic I just described...and he ATTEMPTED the same thing, then trust me blow his ass up we should. No ifs, ands or buts. Of course...I can't imagine parents letting their kids, or anyone else in general, to want to receive his services.

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: magomago


I honestly believe that if you truly and sincerely repent for your actions, mend your ways, and make a huge effort to commit acts of good through the rest of your life constantly, then I can't ask for anything more. The rest is between you and God

Crap like that has no place in the judicial system.

We cannot base decisions today on the assumption that there is a man in the sky to make things right.

Bla bla. Bla bla. It is most likely relevant to Yemen because they consider themselves a 'muslim' country and probably make up some B.S. about law and whatnot coming from Islam. Therefore my discussion entirely applies. Read that in context of everything else I said:

I dunno I'm not too comfortable with this. I'll bring in Islam because Yemen is considered a Muslim country.

Of course, if they don't, then I just owned myself xD

 

[moshquerade]

two wrongs make a right?

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: moshquerade
two wongs make a sword fight

Fixed

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: arkcom

Originally posted by: magomago
oh wtff bbq? I would be scared of the bullet bouncing back and hitting me!

I dunno I'm not too comfortable with this. I'll bring in Islam because Yemen is considered a Muslim country.

Islamically, what he genuinely repented for his sins and mended his ways? In the Quran, one can ascribe partners to God or deny God (ie: commit the gravest sin possible), yet still be entirely forgiven by God (as - the Quran says over and over, god is the most merciful, the most gracious) if they sincerely repent in their hearts (don't need to quote a passage from the Quran because its literally repeated over and over). If holding multiple partners to God or denying God, which is established as the gravest offense, can be forgiven by God, then surely something like this can also be forgiven by God.
If it sounds hard to believe - denying God appears to concern a matter of spirituality while this is a matter of physical life (ie: dead child). However, one would do well to take a look at some of the hadith: remember that the uncle of Prophet Muhammed, Hamza, was killed by Wah-shee, a slave who was promised freedom by his owners if he killed Hamza, in the Battle of Uhud. Later, Wah-shee showed up in front of the Prophet reciting the Sha-ha-dah (decleration of faith in Islam). Was he killed? Nope. Instead, he was exhorted by the prophet to make amends for what he had done. He went on to have an important role.

Moral of the story? If you commit a sin, you can cancel it out by committing good acts. Another key piece of information is that even killing others can be forgiven by other humans if one is sincere and Prophet Mohammed, although not happy as he told Wah-shee to not show his face in front of him, was able to accept the situation.

So I have a problem with this punishment unless he refused to repent for his actions. That doesn't mean that one can commit sins and then 'repent' for shits and giggles. I would think that a repeat offense builds a case to show that one truly hasn't repented. Furthermore, God knows your true intentions and even if you deceive humans, God will still pwn you with a holy banstick.

Furthermore, this isn't to say that its a 'get out of jail free card'. He will still have to deal with paying blood money for the murder of this innocent child. That itself could put him in debt for a LOOOONG time EVEN IF he truly realizes the error of his way, and makes amends and engages in good actions to cancel out this heinous crime.

edit:
Lol clarficiation

If he truly repented (or not), he's taking it up with God right now.

Indeed. You got a point there.

But if this was done according to an 'Islamic Method/Law', I would have hoped they would have applied some basic teachings before pulling off a public execution

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: moshquerade
two wongs make a sword fight

Fixed

You'd like that, wouldn't you

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: moshquerade
two wongs make a sword fight

Fixed

You'd like that, wouldn't you

Maybe. Then again, maybe not.

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: moshquerade
two wongs make a sword fight

Fixed

You'd like that, wouldn't you

Maybe. Then again, maybe not.

Now this is getting hawt...an element of mystery has been introduced.

 

[lyssword]

Originally posted by: eLiu

Originally posted by: ViviTheMage

Originally posted by: Dumac
Maybe it is just me, but I wouldn't go to watch that.

I don't think I would either...

kiddin'? I'd pay to be the executioner!

I wouldn't watch it either. Unfortunately for every person who wouldn't watch, there would be 5 who would.