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LetsGetReal

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thraashman said:
Dude you have two posts on this forum and both are P&N necros. One at least was only a 3 week old necro, but this one is over a year. Learn to join current discussions instead of rehashing very old ones.
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Learn some manners and worry about your self not what other people are doing. The thread's relevant and interesting if you dont like it dont click on it. It doesnt make any difference how old a thread is. Get over your self.
 
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LetsGetReal said:
Because the man will show up for work, not expect favors, take responsibility for himself, accept accountabilty, not falsely accuse his coworkers of sexual harrassment, not distract his male coworkers with sexually provocative clothing / behavior. Would anyone care to add to the list? Plus a man can be fired for low performance. If you fire a woman shell say its because shes a woman and he sexually harrassed me made me feel uncomfortable inssert vindictive excuse here. etc etc.
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And you wonder why you're still a virgin? :rolleyes:
 
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Harvey said:
And you wonder why you're still a virgin? :rolleyes:
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Ah, virgin shaming. Aren't you like 70? How stupid can someone be to reach that age, and not realize that pretending to be a progressive feminist ally to get laid doesn't work?

inb4 you accuse me of having a small penis
 
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Ah, virgin shaming. Aren't you like 70? How stupid can someone be to reach that age, and not realize that pretending to be a progressive feminist ally to get laid doesn't work?

inb4 you accuse me of having a small penis
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I think the deeper irony is the saying that someone hates women because he can't get laid is really implicitly saying that women's value, to men, is due solely to her vagina.

Doesn't seem like a very feminist attitude to be holding :biggrin:
 
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Since this is in the news today I'll post

From the GOP
"First, it is already illegal to discriminate on the basis of gender. It's been against the law to pay a woman less than a man with comparable experience in the same job since the Equal Pay Act of 1963," GOP officials said in a memo distributed to reporters. "The 'fix' that Democrats propose, then, won't change that. It would, however, tightly regulate how employers can pay their employees. This law will not create "equal" pay, but it will make it nearly impossible for employers to tie compensation to work quality, productivity and experience, reduce flexibility in the workplace, and make it far easier to file frivolous lawsuits that line the pockets of trial lawyers."
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Democrats, including Obama, have repeatedly highlighted census figures that show women on average make 77 cents for every dollar that men earn.
But Republicans insist that the figure doesn't tell the whole story.
To make their point, Republicans have noted that the White House has its own gender pay gap. A recent study by the conservative American Enterprise Institute showed that female White House staff members make on average 88 cents for every dollar a male staff member earns.
"There's a disparity not because female engineers are making less than male engineers at the same company with comparable experience," the GOP memo said. "The disparity exists because a female social worker makes less than a male engineer &#8212; just as a female engineer would out-earn a male social worker. The difference isn't because of their genders; it's because of their jobs. The Paycheck Fairness Act wouldn't change that."
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schneiderguy said:
Ah, virgin shaming.
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It's not a shaming him. With a totaally sexist, disrespectful attitude shown by LetsGetReal, I don't know any intelligent woman who would want to be around him, let alone share bodies with him. I wouldn't know about the dumb ones becauseI'm not interested in wasting time around dumb people of either gender.

schneiderguy said:
Aren't you like 70? How stupid can someone be to reach that age, and not realize that pretending to be a progressive feminist ally to get laid doesn't work?
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I'm 72 to be precise, my body parts are working quite well, thank you, and for me, respecting women is not a pretense. My mom was born in 1915, and she was a college grad who raised me and my sisters to value education, intelliect and the value of human beings, ireestective of gender.

My four sisters are extremely bright and highly accomplished. One is a Califrnia appellate court judge. Her twin is a well respected and pubiishd food author. My middle sister recently retired from her art gallery in Venice, Ca., and my youngest sister is a successful event planner whose clients include major corporations and celebreties.

Why would I, or anyone, have to pretend to respect them and what they've accomplished?
 
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Harvey said:
It's not a shaming him. With a totaally sexist, disrespectful attitude shown by LetsGetReal, I don't know any intelligent woman who would want to be around him, let alone share bodies with him. I wouldn't know about the dumb ones becauseI'm not interested in wasting time around dumb people of either gender.



I'm 72 to be precise, my body parts are working quite well, thank you, and for me, respecting women is not a pretense. My mom was born in 1915, and she was a college grad who raised me and my sisters to value education, intelliect and the value of human beings, ireestective of gender.

My four sisters are extremely bright and highly accomplished. One is a Califrnia appellate court judge. Her twin is a well respected and pubiishd food author. My middle sister recently retired from her art gallery in Venice, Ca., and my youngest sister is a successful event planner whose clients include major corporations and celebreties.

Why would I, or anyone, have to pretend to respect them and what they've accomplished?
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4 sisters. Good gravy. I got 3 and that's plenty.
 
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pauldun170 said:
Since this is in the news today I'll post

From the GOP
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oh and it doesnt end there. Legislators will be judged on whether they voted for or against a bill called "The Paycheck Fairness Act". Its a good sounding bill and anyone who votes against it must be a bad person that we shouldnt vote for again. Thats how the politcal ads will be. Substance matters not, only the perception. Thats 90% of the liberal MOD.
 
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nehalem256 said:
I think the deeper irony is the saying that someone hates women because he can't get laid is really implicitly saying that women's value, to men, is due solely to her vagina.

Doesn't seem like a very feminist attitude to be holding :biggrin:
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yes besides its easier now than ever for a man to get laid since women are encouraged to be promiscuous sluts now. ,if such a man would dare go near such a petri dish of her modern vagina.

liberal politicians demonstrate this clearly when they pander to women by offering them free birth control, cervix exams, free abortions and tough laws to make men pay for the womens decision to have promiscuous sex even though he wants an abortion. She gets to choose twice. He only one choice. Double standards galore. Your sister the judge if she is honest will tell you how the court sticks it to the man and discriminates in the womens favor 95% of the time. The courts are rigged against men and this is why you read about some men that ultimately flip out and go on killing sprees. They simply crack out of frustration and the unfairness of the court system. Its sad and tragic for all involved. The lies of feminism cause an endless wheel of pain for everyone. May God have mercy on this land.
 
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Harvey said:
Where as those like you who make no pretense about being a chauvinistic loud mouth are toxic waste. :thumbsdown:
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well what do you call someone who makes up statistics to prove that women arent being paid the same money for the same work. Thats a total lie and they know it themselves. You know it too, yet you condone it. Fake stats. Just an example of how there is no accountability. Its not a stereotype its true. They make up fake stats and if anyone says anything about it and tries to hold them accountable they are called a sexist. Call me what you want, I have tremendous respect for true ladies, its just that there are so few of them left because you shame them too for choosing the family life. This country desperately needs women to be women and men to be men and enough of this homogeny. The family unit is imploding because women arent home. The state is raising the kids instead. Men are becoming obsolete, while women go unfullfilled their whole life wondering whats missing, victims of communist dogma.
 
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LetsGetReal said:
well what do you call someone who makes up statistics to prove that women arent being paid the same money for the same work. Thats a total lie and they know it themselves. You know it too, yet you condone it. Fake stats. Just an example of how there is no accountability. Its not a stereotype its true. They make up fake stats and if anyone says anything about it and tries to hold them accountable they are called a sexist. Call me what you want, I have tremendous respect for true ladies, its just that there are so few of them left because you shame them too for choosing the family life. This country desperately needs women to be women and men to be men and enough of this homogeny. The family unit is imploding because women arent home. The state is raising the kids instead. Men are becoming obsolete, while women go unfullfilled their whole life wondering whats missing, victims of communist dogma.
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I call BS! I doubt you could prove anything in your post with credible stats from credible sources. Faux Noise, Lush Limbaugh and other tea tard wingnut sources don't cut it.
 
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I'm not a fan of this law at all, but you have some double-think going on here as well.

On the one hand you say there is no pay gap, but on the other you think it would be a problem for employers to show that pay disparity is related to job performance.

If the wage gap can be easily explained by years experience and responsibility differences (which I agree it effectively can) then this law will have no impact on employers.
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Genx87 said:
This looks ripe for abuse, costly litigation, and paperwork out the ass. Perfect for big govt types who like to stimulate demand by hiring lawyers to sort out the laws they enact. For business and the rest of us? A nightmare waiting to happen.
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And God forbid the company or it's owner/exec donates to a non-PC cause or the wrong political party.

They'll use this law to have govt lawyers up your wazoo.

Fern
 
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LetsGetReal said:
well what do you call someone who makes up statistics to prove that women arent being paid the same money for the same work. Thats a total lie and they know it themselves. You know it too, yet you condone it. Fake stats. Just an example of how there is no accountability. Its not a stereotype its true. They make up fake stats and if anyone says anything about it and tries to hold them accountable they are called a sexist. Call me what you want, I have tremendous respect for true ladies, its just that there are so few of them left because you shame them too for choosing the family life. This country desperately needs women to be women and men to be men and enough of this homogeny. The family unit is imploding because women arent home. The state is raising the kids instead. Men are becoming obsolete, while women go unfullfilled their whole life wondering whats missing, victims of communist dogma.
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So how old was the passed out girl you knocked up? How much child support did you get stuck with?
 
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dank69 said:
So how old was the passed out girl you knocked up? How much child support did you get stuck with?
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Thankfully i wised up early in life and never had to deal with this first hand. Ive however known and listened to enough guys living the nightmare. The nightmare begins with the female on a mission to get pregnant with the ulterior motive of getting the kid and court awarded free money, the house etc, kick the guy out and do what she wants. But you already know that only pretending its something else to preserve your own kinds self interest. I dont blame you, when you have nothing to offer you have to trap a man and become a parasite. Since society encourages it now, why not. Its our own fault for letting it get to this point. Just as in mathematics though, every problem has its own solution. When society implodes, we start again and have learned a lesson from history. (the present)
 
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