Path of Exile 3.0 Discussion

[rstrohkirch]

Remain neutral on the syndicate part though I agree it's probably the old masters. Nice on the temple/delve/beasts being kept/re-introduced. Looks like the stream lined master crafting includes new options....picture includes 25% MS boots??? Just thinking in my head all the boots I wouldn't have vendored if I could have crafted 25% MS on them. Also means we get access to the aspect skills again from beast league.

 

[Majes]

GGG has a talent for giving me things that I didn't know I needed.
I honestly didn't realize how much I hated the master missions. I had stopped doing Caterina, Haku, and even Tora altogether.
The new content sounds pretty interesting, but I'm super pumped to have Delve, Bestiary, and Incursion masters. It also seems like they will refresh after a certain number of maps which was badly needed...

I'm still waiting for PoE to add something like runewords. I think it would be the perfect trade-off between choosing socketed skills or socketed runes. There's also a huge part of the Diablo 2 fandom that is just waiting for a runewords or something of a similar quality to show up in a game. Can anything think of good reasons why they wouldn't put something like this in eventually?

 

[Homerboy]

New league sounds interesting. Reserved on the "syndicate" junk. The Masters definitely needed to be retooled. They were the worst part of the game I think so I think I might be more looking forward to the league AFTER this one to see how the Masters are deployed going forward. Very happy they left Delve and temples. Don't care too much for Beastiary.

Honestly, this game is getting too complicated for me.

When's Delve end? I think it's the 26th? I still gotta do some challenges. Impossible to find a 4 socket resonator now. Not even any for sale.

 

[Vivendi]

I just logged in today after 2 or 3 weeks to get two more challenges down (kill a boss and 30 eight mod red maps). I've got a few more easy achievements left but I'm already at 24 so I'm done for the league.

I think Delve is my favourite league since Legacy. The one thing I didn't like was that maps didn't have any extra additions in this league. As for sulphite amount and boss rarity, I'm sure that's something GGG does on purpose with the league mechanics every single league They gate end game league mechanics behind so much grinding that 90% of players probably quit before getting to experience them.

 

[Vivendi]

I completely ignored all masters this league except for Zana and one for hideout. I did the Vagen?vegan? guy purely because I got his hideout first and then stopped once I got him to 7.

When's Delve end? I think it's the 26th? I still gotta do some challenges. Impossible to find a 4 socket resonator now. Not even any for sale.

Which challenges do you have left. Did you already get to 24 or not.

 

[Homerboy]

I completely ignored all masters this league except for Zana and one for hideout. I did the Vagen?vegan? guy purely because I got his hideout first and then stopped once I got him to 7.

Which challenges do you have left. Did you already get to 24 or not.

I didn't even get Zana past 7... maybe she's still 6 actually.

I need 4 socket resonator
couple more 8 mod maps
I think I have to do a T16 corrupt map
Pretty much every Delve challenge I think (walls, encounter)
I think I still have Elder to beat for a challenge

 

[EXCellR8]

Getting stuck in Act 4 trying to collect whatever items are in those two dream worlds, that you enter from the Cystal Veins. I'll make slow but ok progress and then reach a spot where I just get demolished if I don't absolutely mash my flask buttons and use constant abilities. I think I might need to completely rework my gear and/or just keep leveling up.

BTW... wasn't there an orb that turned a normal rarity into a magic item? I can't for the life of me figure out why I can't do that now--or was I ever able to??

 

[Vivendi]

Normal to magic item - Orb of Transmutation - these are very common
Normal to rare - Orb of alchemy aka an 'alch' - common enough, sell unique items to alchemy shards to get more of these
Magic to rare - Regal orb - rarely needed but always handy to keep at least a few.

Check that the normal item you're trying to use currency on is not corrupted or mirrored.

 

[Thump553]

New league sounds interesting. Reserved on the "syndicate" junk. The Masters definitely needed to be retooled. They were the worst part of the game I think so I think I might be more looking forward to the league AFTER this one to see how the Masters are deployed going forward. Very happy they left Delve and temples. Don't care too much for Beastiary.

Honestly, this game is getting too complicated for me.

When's Delve end? I think it's the 26th? I still gotta do some challenges. Impossible to find a 4 socket resonator now. Not even any for sale.

When they announced Delve GGG said the end date was December 4th. but since changed it to November 26th. I also have a problem with the increasing complexity and I wish they would just drive a stake through the heart of Beastiary and kill it forever.

Hopefully one of the changes will be to shorten up Zana. It's impossible to complete it solo in a league. I run the masters every day and I'm only at 1.1M points on Zana.

Won't miss Vorici one bit either. Nearly all his missions are impossible on a summoner, which I like to start with.

Thrilled Delve is going to stay. Now if only you could transfer/trade Auzurite.

 

[rstrohkirch]

With the unified master crafting system I just have this feeling they are going to simplify Bestiary a lot. They already said they got rid of the nets and that the NPC is just going to automatically grab the beast. I bet it has the same level of intrusion as Essence mobs when it's re-introduced and the Menagerie probably won't even exist.

In regards to Zana, you can easily get her to 8 BUT you have to progress through the game and her quest line. I had her at level 8 when I quit without groups or doing her daily every day. You get a crap ton of exp by completing her entire quest line. You also get a lot of exp by finding her in t15/t16 maps. If you don't progress to complete end game then ya...she sucks to get level 8 on.

 

[Homerboy]

what exactly is "zana's quest line"?
I guess I never understood that, nor the "zana mods"

 

[rstrohkirch]

It's called The Memory Eater. When you kill elder influenced bosses and get shaper orbs, they are part of that quest line. Story wise, Shaper's memory was corrupted or whatever by the Elder so you are collecting his memories, facing him then uber elder.

Actual quest line is something like this:

Elder influenced maps from T1 up to T15
Kill shaper guardians
Kill shaper
Kill Uber Elder

Zana mods before the recent league were just chaos sinks and ways for you to run league modifiers on your maps. It also counted as if the league was present so those maps could drop league exclusive items. With Delve they introduced 4 new mods to help people progress through the Atlas easier. There is the alternate of the same map tier mod, T1-5 shaped maps +5 levels added mod, T6-10 shaped map +5 levels added mod and last the make it a T16 map regardless mod.

For the standard league mods, they change those every league so sometimes you can have access to something like Perandus and sometimes you can't. Whatever league mods Zana has tends to drive down the price on the league specific uniques for the new league. So if you have Harbinger on Zana then those league specific uniques are generally cheaper than leagues where you did not have access to Harbinger.

 

[Majes]

When they announced Delve GGG said the end date was December 4th. but since changed it to November 26th. I also have a problem with the increasing complexity and I wish they would just drive a stake through the heart of Beastiary and kill it forever.

Having Bestiary back is going to be great. I never understood any of the arguments against it other than the nets were clunky and that's supposedly been fixed. If there's choice I'll be running a lot more Delve and Bestiary than I will Incursion.

I think they've done a good job of simplifying their content with the new masters. It's certainly a better solution than leaguestones were. So basically there will just be the league content in generic areas and maps unless you go through these masters.

I really wish Harbinger had made it into the core game though... I miss that league a lot.

 

[rstrohkirch]

Personally, I don't find crafting leagues fun. I'm more than content to just trade for better gear and I'm not some serious Min/Maxer. Bestiary was just straight crafting...terribly random crafting at that...plus the 4 boss zones. Once they cleaned up nets and added the extra crafts I think it was a lot better. With Delve they did superior crafting to Bestiary AND a great exploration system. I found Essence league just as blah as Bestiary. It just had better crafting than Bestiary until they updated the crafting recipes. The only time I craft is when I'm basically done with the league, bored and have a lot of currency to blow. But since I'm done I don't need any of the gear I've crafted.

 

[EXCellR8]

Alright I upgraded and/or swapped out a couple flasks and now I'm doing much better in tougher fights... seemed like I was getting overrun but now it's much better.

I've never been able to find any fragmented walls to explode but I've been doing quite well in Delve too.

 

[rstrohkirch]

Are you SSF or are you in a trade league? If you're in a trade league what is your account name?

 

[Chromagnus]

Alright I upgraded and/or swapped out a couple flasks and now I'm doing much better in tougher fights... seemed like I was getting overrun but now it's much better.

I've never been able to find any fragmented walls to explode but I've been doing quite well in Delve too.

You need to venture into the darkness to find the fragmented walls. If you only stick to the lighted path from the cart you will never find one. I didn't think this was intuitive and googled where to find fragmented walls so I figured I'd let you know in case you didn't already.

 

[EXCellR8]

Yea I tried that with flares near some of those isolated nodes but I couldn't find anything...

 

[Vivendi]

Next league I really need to make more of an effort trading. I just made over 2 exalts clearing out my trade tab. It was full of items that I thought were worth something but I was too lazy to price and list them. League's almost done now so I priced them at a discount and people snatched up most of them. Had a near max roll Primordial golem jewel, probably could have sold for multiple ex if I hadn't forgotten about it earlier in the league, I listed it at 60 chaos today and it sold within a minute. I've also got a half of tab full of junk unique rings that I'm taking to standard Gonna make a Loreweave there and try my luck.

 

[Homerboy]

Next league I really need to make more of an effort trading. I just made over 2 exalts clearing out my trade tab. It was full of items that I thought were worth something but I was too lazy to price and list them. League's almost done now so I priced them at a discount and people snatched up most of them. Had a near max roll Primordial golem jewel, probably could have sold for multiple ex if I hadn't forgotten about it earlier in the league, I listed it at 60 chaos today and it sold within a minute. I've also got a half of tab full of junk unique rings that I'm taking to standard Gonna make a Loreweave there and try my luck.

The other thing to cash in on is "lower level" orbs. I pick up nearly every form of currency - especially early in the league. Those start to seriously add up and you can trade them for chaos down the line too.

 

[rstrohkirch]

I was bored so I looked up some race videos to help teach me to level faster for league starts. I was playing around leveling a ranger with rain of arrows, a templar with totems and a shadow with traps. I got them down to about 24-25min per act after some practice.

I will say I really enjoyed the arc trap build. It does a serious amount of damage with no investment. I liked it enough that I took it to high 30s and did lab to get a good feel for it. I did it all on a 4 link with a crafted weapon from act 1. It's funny when you 1 shot Piety with junk 2 acts old. I'm definitely doing arc traps this upcoming league.

 

[Vivendi]

Now you've got me interested. I'm gonna try it out on Standard on the weekend.

 

[rstrohkirch]

Here is the build guild I referenced: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2160326

Here is a league starter guide ZiggyD did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRpIZJoxEz0&t=1s

 

[Homerboy]

Traps are sorta like totems, right??? You're getting me excited!

 

[rstrohkirch]

I would say it's somewhere in between. By the end of act 1 you'll have a really good feel if it's something you like or not.

I did another run with a fresh character and came in about 30min per act for the first 3 acts. A 3 link wand from act1 to act3 and switch to 4 link arc in the middle of act 3.