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Majes

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I consider Perandus a mob league. It has extra mobs/chests with the added RNG element of getting offered a great unique for the useless league currency. This league is a crafting league that is worse than the previous crafting league they had. If this league didn't have a few stand out recipes, it would have been shit on twice as hard as it already has. They put out the patch notes that will drop sometime this week and they mention letting you chose the base now when you roll rare mod reciepes. So now we get to chose the base but get a random roll on the mod we want which is only 1 step behind Essence league instead of 2.

Oh, super disagree... The Bestiary crafting is tons better than essence... Don't get me wrong. The rare Bestiary combinations are much worse than essences. But I've never had a decent essence craft, and I've already dropped multiple useful uniques from Bestiary recipes.

I'm not sure what people wanted or expected from Bestiary... The nets were and are pretty clunky and annoying. But the normal beast fights have been great, the top 20-30 crafting recipes are great, and the blood altar fights have been fun.

If they could get map drops, currency drops, crashes, beast spawn rate, and nets fixed up we would have a really, really neat league happening.
 

Vivendi

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Having problems actually capturing beasts. My scion is too squishy for me to actually stop and throw nets safely right now, I'd rather kill something a screen away. Moreover, I tried the new necro net and it didn't work for me. I'm guessing it's because I'm freezing and shattering the mobs, which sucks.

First time I'm playing Scion and I didn't follow any builds, just planned a rough one in Path of Building. I won't get to endgame with it, will try to get to at least t15 by end of week.
 

rstrohkirch

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Oh, super disagree... The Bestiary crafting is tons better than essence... Don't get me wrong. The rare Bestiary combinations are much worse than essences. But I've never had a decent essence craft, and I've already dropped multiple useful uniques from Bestiary recipes.

I'm not sure what people wanted or expected from Bestiary... The nets were and are pretty clunky and annoying. But the normal beast fights have been great, the top 20-30 crafting recipes are great, and the blood altar fights have been fun.

The stand out recipes are good. You like the stand out recipes as do most people. However, 80% or roughly 270 recipes are just roll random rare mod recipes. Another 10% are stuff that's a bit different but probably won't be used much like roll a specific flask or leveling item. Perhaps SSF people? That leaves less than 10% of a total of over 330 recipes that are actually worth while.

Now if we pretend all that is just junk filler and ignore it all to focus on 10% of the content then ya there is fun stuff there.

If they could get map drops, currency drops, crashes, beast spawn rate, and nets fixed up we would have a really, really neat league happening.

I'm sure they will clean some of this stuff up. They need to hurry up though as the population already drops pretty hard by the 4th week and lots of people don't like this league as is. In a couple more weeks it could feel a bit ghost town ish.


Having problems actually capturing beasts. My scion is too squishy for me to actually stop and throw nets safely right now, I'd rather kill something a screen away. Moreover, I tried the new necro net and it didn't work for me. I'm guessing it's because I'm freezing and shattering the mobs, which sucks.

First time I'm playing Scion and I didn't follow any builds, just planned a rough one in Path of Building. I won't get to endgame with it, will try to get to at least t15 by end of week.

I have a bit of the same problem. My first time in years playing a ranged dodge toon and now I have to stop and click on packs in upper tier red maps that are carpet bombing my head. It's a big eh. But I hit the level I need so dying isn't a big deal anymore.
 
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Homerboy

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Necronets are a godsend thus far. I can't stop my mob of zombies and spectre scorching rays from crashing into packs. At the lower tiers, they are too powerful and anything "new" is killed instantly.

I do wish there was a recipe for Thaumaturgical nets though. It could even be a "steep" penalty like 10 or 20:1 ratio for them. Or in turn 10 or 20:1 to make a necro.
 

Majes

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Agreed on the Necro Nets. Though I've only used one... The other red mob I failed on didn't let me necro it sadly.
 

Homerboy

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Agreed on the Necro Nets. Though I've only used one... The other red mob I failed on didn't let me necro it sadly.
Had a red mob last night that I killed too quickly. Tried to use a necro net and it wouldn't let me throw it. Serious bummer.
 

Feneant2

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Where do you get necro nets, are they drop only? I haven't had any.

Just starting doing maps last night, never bothered to get this far. Not much quality loot so far, did 5 tier 1 maps and didn't even get a single chaos orb... I need to get them dropping to finish gearing up the build.
 

Homerboy

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Where do you get necro nets, are they drop only? I haven't had any.

Just starting doing maps last night, never bothered to get this far. Not much quality loot so far, did 5 tier 1 maps and didn't even get a single chaos orb... I need to get them dropping to finish gearing up the build.

Necros can drop, or 3x Thaumaturgical will get you 1 necronet.
Are you dropping at least an Alch on the maps? I wouldn't use chisels on white maps (yellow maps are debatable) But you should start to see decent loot dropping on alch'ed T1 maps. Certainly more than the normal stroy line part of the game.
You can "find" a lot of chaos in your account by trading in your lesser currencies via poe.trade. I went through my chromes, jewelers etc yesterday and traded for 100C+
 

Homerboy

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Finished UberLab last night and cannot decide on how to assign points. Per the build guide I'm using

Commander of Darkness - Resistances and damage for you, your minions, and their totems. Get this if you need resists.
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Puppet Master - More offensive than CoD. Lets you drop Clarity. Get this if you dont need the resists from CoD.

Old Homer would go for the increase in offense. New Homer is trying REAL HARD to play more conservatively and stay alive in later tiers more.
I don't need to assign either right now as I'm still running through my Atlas (T7 or so right now at LVL81) and I don't really get threatened too much. So for now I'm holding on to them until things start to get tough...
 

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I am 89 in this new league. Sunder/Jug build. Was pleased with it until I was absolutely crushed by Malachai on Core 13 corrupted map. Never before have I faced anything remotely as difficult. Maybe I didn't pay close enough attention to the map mods. Boss did have like +25% damage, +25% attack speed, like +226% crit multi, etc... Bout the only mods I had to avoid before that map was reflect physical. Everything else can be face tanked without a flask. :-/ This made me a sad panda. one shot. max resists. Of course, I couldn't let it go, so I used all 6 portals and eventually lost 1/2 of my XP bar. I logged out for the night.

Uber lab is easy peasy, fully powered uber izaro is easy peasy. That said, i have not played POE for about 2-3 years now, so I am still trying to learn some of the new things with this new league.
 

Homerboy

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Uber lab is easy peasy, fully powered uber izaro is easy peasy. That said, i have not played POE for about 2-3 years now, so I am still trying to learn some of the new things with this new league.

As much as I loathe the labs, I guess I have grown to loathe them less as of late. I did die on Uber last night as my stupid minions got me blocked in a door way and that buzz saw did it's job
 

Vivendi

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I've seen zero loot this league so far... I sold a unique on day 1 for a chaos and that was it. Maps feel empty because the league mechanic doesn't add any mobs. I've seen a few Breaches but they didn't spawn too many mobs either.

Kinda getting bored of this league honestly but I'll probably play until get 24 challenges done. Just hoping I get something to drop, I can't even get decent maps to drop. I gave up and just started buying my maps now.

People are price fixing basically everything on PoE now so be careful when selling btw.
 

Homerboy

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I've sold probably 40-50C worth of stuff (24 of which was a Lion's Roar Flask). Had a few divine orbs drop. But that's it. I think that's pretty fair/common - especially for just getting into mid-yellow maps thus far.
 

Feneant2

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Necros can drop, or 3x Thaumaturgical will get you 1 necronet.
Are you dropping at least an Alch on the maps? I wouldn't use chisels on white maps (yellow maps are debatable) But you should start to see decent loot dropping on alch'ed T1 maps.

Did not know about this, I started using an alch- but now some mobs are too tough and I fail the map. My build (Heavy Strike) was smooth until I hit 60ish and now I'm starting to have issues, I need more life leech and armour.
 

Vivendi

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I don't bother alching maps tier 3 or below, I think it's fine just to use a transmute on them and then maybe an aug if needed.

About your gear, why don't you post your poe profile link and we can take a look at it.
 

rstrohkirch

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I had really good luck last league with drops and it seems to be repeating itself this league. I've linked Homer a few of lucky finds. You need to clear fast if you want good growth. Tanky slower builds build wealth well through uber lab runs.
 
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About your gear, why don't you post your poe profile link and we can take a look at it.

I'll try to post it tonight, I replaced a few items last night that were much lower level but without any chaos it's slow going. I read through the build and I didn't follow it to the letter in terms of 'development' which hurt me. The builder refers to having about 50k defense (probably near level 100) but I only have about 6500 at 70. I'll try to do my 2nd lab this weekend to get the added points and then I'll work my way to the 3rd lab.
 

Homerboy

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I don't bother alching maps tier 3 or below, I think it's fine just to use a transmute on them and then maybe an aug if needed.

About your gear, why don't you post your poe profile link and we can take a look at it.

Yeah but how many T1/T2 maps do you even run? I mean I do 1 of each and that's about it. I've always been able to "play up" and breeze through the white maps without much issue. Dropping a couple of extra Alchs isn't that big of a loss.
 

Homerboy

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I had really good luck last league with drops and it seems to be repeating itself this league. I've linked Homer a few of lucky finds. You need to clear fast if you want good growth. Tanky slower builds build wealth well through uber lab runs.

FYI, if you didn't notice I did finish UberLab that night. And I assigned the points to Commander of Darkness for the resists. It KILLED me not to pick up 2 more zombies ;P
As I started playing higher maps I realized defense is still king.
I picked up T1-3 Shaper orbs too. My atlas was kind to me last night
 

Vivendi

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So how did you finish your trials? Find them all yourself or trade for them? I struggled last league to find all six, I had over 20 offerings by the time I found the last one. This league I'm 4/6 done and need to find two more, I sold all my offerings already (dozen). Thinking of using the 820 channel to get the last two or maybe buy a bunch of the dream trial prophecies. I prefer buying the prophecies, I didn't know about it last league so I never bought em.
 

Homerboy

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So how did you finish your trials? Find them all yourself or trade for them? I struggled last league to find all six, I had over 20 offerings by the time I found the last one. This league I'm 4/6 done and need to find two more, I sold all my offerings already (dozen). Thinking of using the 820 channel to get the last two or maybe buy a bunch of the dream trial prophecies. I prefer buying the prophecies, I didn't know about it last league so I never bought em.

I found them all except for 1 that @rstrohkirch had open for me.
Last league I had to use 820 for 1 of the trials.
 

rstrohkirch

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So how did you finish your trials? Find them all yourself or trade for them? I struggled last league to find all six, I had over 20 offerings by the time I found the last one. This league I'm 4/6 done and need to find two more, I sold all my offerings already (dozen). Thinking of using the 820 channel to get the last two or maybe buy a bunch of the dream trial prophecies. I prefer buying the prophecies, I didn't know about it last league so I never bought em.

If you prefer to do things yourself then definitely dream trials but I don't see a difference between buying in trade 820 or buying a prophecy. Personally, if I get to the point where I think I can do Uber and haven't found them then I go to global 820 and tip someone 1c. Then I'll turn around and offer up free portals for however many I get from the channel. It keeps things even in my mind.
 
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Thump553

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Just had a Poet's Pen (mediocre stats) drop for me, first one I've have. Any suggestions for a new build to use this?